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First, this is a story about an unreleased and unannounced product. Second, I really don't think Apple is intentionally trying to harm its customers by allegedly making the (unannounced) wireless charging feature work slower. Perhaps this is an engineering trade-off meant to ensure safety or a better customer experience. Apple can't do anything without people whining. And it's often about the stupidest things!

There is an engineering trade off, and it has nothing to do with the actual ability to transfer the power but rather the battery. Faster charging will almost always cause some level of battery degradation. Although small, Apple likely has their battery chemistry keyed in and does not want to deviate to much from the conditions it knows works best.
 
They aren't making their own? Why do you think that? They use the Bluetooth standard but thanks to its W1 chip you can only used licensed wireless headphones, or there own, this will be the same according to rumours, they will use an existing QI standard yes but then lock it down to really just make money. They'll make some software or hardware lock so only licensed or Apples own pads will work.
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Erm, ok?? Did you miss the media storm last year about the removal of the headphone port?? I guess you did.


No, the w1 chip was indeed made by Apple and is indeed only utilized on beats and apple products due to the licensing of the chip. However, the iPhone 7 is able to work with every single **** Bluetooth headphones I have bought for like 15 bucks on amazon because it used the Bluetooth standard.

W1 adds easier pairing and slightly better battery management however you can still also use any w1 chip enabled device on any phone and only miss out on the easier pairing if it’s not Apple. W1 adds a little bit more to the ease of daily use which I appreciate, but it is far from what you are saying because it does not prevent any third party Bluetooth products.

You are trying to correlate your observation with the qi inductive charging standard to what Apple is making and say it won’t work without being certified. You are most likely definitely correct because that is how their current usage for lightning cables work. If a company makes a lightning cable and it’s not certified it will not work. Same with the inductive charging. A company could have inductive charging that should theoretically work but it won’t unless certified. It is I repeat not the same as Bluetooth head phones it is using.
 
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I see it all the time - after 6 months all the folks around me with Android devices begin to complain about battery life. I wonder why that is? Maybe Apple engineers know something that keyboard warriors on the internet don’t?
I experienced what you're saying with three iPhones. It's not Android specific.
 
Are you sure about this? They ship the iPhones with 5W USB power adapters, yet also market the 12W ones as compatible with anything starting from iPhone 4 and younger? So I charge everything with 12W chargers, is this wrong?

Yup! Although it is very minor faster charging does cause some amount of degradation.
 
Over the summer it was rumored that software problems related to wireless charging were causing a "
panic
" at Apple, so the feature might not debut until an iOS 11 update later ...​

Crazy BS. Hoping that there will be at least one iPhone 2017/2018 (SE)Edition without Wireless Charging but with bigger battery.
 
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If Apple really removed any chance of Touch ID on the back to put in this half-assed, proprietary version of inductive charging, that would be really sad. Just another example of their hubris, and reason for people to switch to Android.
 
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If this turns out to be true then this just confirms what I've said for months. iPhone 8 is not publicly ready so they dropped a lot of major features due to time constraints, making only minor changes and focusing their energy on the new screen/camera system. Again.. all the more reason why I am so waiting for next year's device. Gives them another year to get this one right, with a much larger plus edition to compete against the Note series.
 
Of course. First you have to introduce a basic functionality as amazing and a generation later you will have an updated version to push as even more incredible.

Milk away
 
If this turns out to be true then this just confirms what I've said for months. iPhone 8 is not publicly ready so they dropped a lot of major features due to time constraints, making only minor changes and focusing their energy on the new screen/camera system. Again.. all the more reason why I am so waiting for next year's device. Gives them another year to get this one right, with a much larger plus edition to compete against the Note series.

Last of faster charging is not due to time constraints, it is due to a decision made by Apple.
 
First, this is a story about an unreleased and unannounced product. Second, I really don't think Apple is intentionally trying to harm its customers by allegedly making the (unannounced) wireless charging feature work slower. Perhaps this is an engineering trade-off meant to ensure safety or a better customer experience. Apple can't do anything without people whining. And it's often about the stupidest things!

From an outside perspective, this sounds like the perfect opportunity for Apple to push double sales of their charging dock. Seems rather convenient that it has half the speed of other products at launch.

Unless it's a technological limitation (like under the screen Touch ID), I don't believe any excuse for apple, if it hurts the customer.
 
I expected nothing less: wireless charging proprietary to Apple.

Assuming this rumor is true, the reason for the slower charging must be something to do with safety and the longevity of the iPhone battery. And, of course, money.

iPhones are relevant 4+ years after launch, whereas any new Android phone is obsolete (a slow messy slab) in less than 2 years, and that is a generous estimate.

It's wise to preserve the life of an iPhone battery, which may be a reason for slower charging. I'm in no hurry at night anyway.
 
I expected nothing less: wireless charging proprietary to Apple.

True, Apple loves to lock its users in.

Assuming this rumor is true, the reason for the slower charging must be something to do with safety and the longevity of the iPhone battery. And, of course, money.

Perhaps they learned from the way the Apple Watch case can separate from inductive charging related expansion, and they're trying avoid similar expansion related problems (like fires if the case cannot separate).
 
From an outside perspective, this sounds like the perfect opportunity for Apple to push double sales of their charging dock. Seems rather convenient that it has half the speed of other products at launch.

Unless it's a technological limitation (like under the screen Touch ID), I don't believe any excuse for apple, if it hurts the customer.

It is a technological limitation. It's likely has to do with Apple's choice of battery chemistry.

It's the same reason why Apple does not advertise fast charging of any sort.
 
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Last of faster charging is not due to time constraints, it is due to a decision made by Apple.
Same thing, they made the decision based on time, more than obvious given the leaks about Touch ID as well. Things will be much different next year, if only people would wait. This "anniversary" edition of the phone is just that.. a 1 off device that will be built upon next year with a lot more enhancement not just little things. They ran out of time on this one.
 
No, the w1 chip was indeed made by Apple and is indeed only utilized on beats and apple products due to the licensing of the chip. However, the iPhone 7 is able to work with every single **** Bluetooth headphones I have bought for like 15 bucks on amazon because it used the Bluetooth standard.

W1 adds easier pairing and slightly better battery management however you can still also use any w1 chip enabled device on any phone and only miss out on the easier pairing if it’s not Apple. W1 adds a little bit more to the ease of daily use which I appreciate, but it is far from what you are saying because it does not prevent any third party Bluetooth products.

You are trying to correlate your observation with the qi inductive charging standard to what Apple is making and say it won’t work without being certified. You are most likely definitely correct because that is how their current usage for lightning cables work. If a company makes a lightning cable and it’s not certified it will not work. Same with the inductive charging. A company could have inductive charging that should theoretically work but it won’t unless certified. It is I repeat not the same as Bluetooth head phones it is using.

I did not know that about the wireless headphones so thanks. But also glad to see you agree with me on wireless chargers and the iPhone.
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It is a technological limitation. It's likely has to do with Apple's choice of battery chemistry.

It's the same reason why Apple does not advertise fast charging of any sort.

Your wrong because you can use an iPad charger on an iPhone and it will charge faster, no matter what battery the iPhone has.
 
The made for Apple license makes sense. Confirm you work with the iPhone.

The half-speed charging is strange. If Apple implements a proven technology, they improve upon it. Perhaps it's true wireless, from multiple feet away. There's zero reason to have stationary wireless charging.

I don't trust this rumor.
 
I did not know that about the wireless headphones so thanks. But also glad to see you agree with me on wireless chargers and the iPhone.
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Your wrong because you can use an iPad charger on an iPhone and it will charge faster, no matter what battery the iPhone has.

yes but it is not advertised by Apple because they don't want people to do it. It does damage the battery in the long term.
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Same thing, they made the decision based on time, more than obvious given the leaks about Touch ID as well. Things will be much different next year, if only people would wait. This "anniversary" edition of the phone is just that.. a 1 off device that will be built upon next year with a lot more enhancement not just little things. They ran out of time on this one.

What does Touch ID have to do with anything here?
 
If Apple is going to introduce inductive charging but at a rate that is half as fast as current products, then Apple needs to sell the idea to me when they announce these new iPhones--tell me why this is the case, what does it benefit me or my phone, etc. Don't just hide and hope no one notices.

First, this is a story about an unreleased and unannounced product. Second, I really don't think Apple is intentionally trying to harm its customers by allegedly making the (unannounced) wireless charging feature work slower. Perhaps this is an engineering trade-off meant to ensure safety or a better customer experience. Apple can't do anything without people whining. And it's often about the stupidest things!

I am fine if this rumor
Is true. Not a fan of inductive charging as a whole, but see it's benefits in keeping devices more sealed.

Slower charging means less stress on the cells, and less heat, which also contributes to that stress. This all could contribute to them lasting longer, and remain more stable.
 
yes but it is not advertised by Apple because they don't want people to do it. It does damage the battery in the long term.
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What does Touch ID have to do with anything here?

Do you have proof it damages the battery? I want to see some because plenty of Android users do it with no issues at all. I think it's just a marketing excuse to help maximise profits if Apple goes down this road...
 
First, this is a story about an unreleased and unannounced product. Second, I really don't think Apple is intentionally trying to harm its customers by allegedly making the (unannounced) wireless charging feature work slower. Perhaps this is an engineering trade-off meant to ensure safety or a better customer experience. Apple can't do anything without people whining. And it's often about the stupidest things!
Or they whine about the way Apple try’s to nickel and dime everyone. I love my iPhone and iPad but they hopefully will allow all 3rd party chargers to work. Not happening though.
 
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