iPhone 8 With Longer Battery Life Said to Entice Those With Older iPhones to Upgrade

[Radon87000]

Ah the ever fluid definition of "bloat". Apple has been working to allow some of them to be deleted, but they actually take up little room in storage.

Nothing but an eyewash. If you ever encounter a link to a stock app that was deleted it will direct you to the store instead of opening in the relevant third party app already installed . What's the point of uninstalling? Yes the iPhone has bloat which cannot be uninstalled unlike Android where I can fully uninstall Google's bloat

 

[I7guy]

Nothing but an eyewash. If you ever encounter a link to a stock app that was deleted it will direct you to the store instead of opening in the relevant third party app already installed . What's the point of uninstalling? Yes the iPhone has bloat which cannot be uninstalled unlike Android where I can fully uninstall Google's bloat

Not in my opinion, there is no bloat.

 

[Zwhaler]

You're wrong on both accounts. It may be ok for someone for uses iPhone for occasional photo, maybe some light music playing and a call or two per day while most of the time the phone just wastes space on your pocket/purse/desk/whatever.

I'm still waiting for a phone that provides enough juice to survive higher than average use even for a normal work day. I recharge my 6+ every night, take it out of the charger around 9am and by 2pm I need to plug it in or switch to low power mode which renders it useless for me for most of the tasks. I refuse to buy a phone with smaller battery than that one.

Most people don't seem to realize your phone really IS a powerhouse these days. You can use it for so many things, but should you wish to do so requires it to have the screen on most of the time -> battery drain is much bigger and the miniature batteries Apple uses just can't cope.

The same applies to that horrible Crapbook Pro. No amount of battery saving measures help when you actually USE THE DEVICE. Currently my MBP replacement is a hacked x220 with slice battery and FHD screen. Less than $1k for 16GB/1TB SSD/i7/whatever in a smaller form (not including thickness), but the biggest benefit: 10h+ REAL LIFE battery life. Even when I actually use the damned machine. I struggled to get even 3-4h with the 2016 MBProletariat. Maybe MBP2016, linkbase and lots of superglue might be an option but then again, it'd be 6 times as expensive and have a worse keyboard.

So, please save those 2700mAh toy batteries to those who don't use even quarter of their devices' potential. Or at least have the decency of not mentioning them in the same sentence with "much improved battery life". Make iPhone 8+ with 6kmAh battery and I'll buy it. I don't care if it's thicker, it's for work, not decoration.

Not going to argue with you about the MacBook Pro. To be fair I am talking about the 7+ having "good" battery life and the 7 being "okay". You use the 6+. It's a bit of a stretch to act like we're talking about the same thing. Advancements in multiple areas make the 7+ a superior product in the battery department. Maybe not by much. But I didn't call it "great" to begin with.

Also, those who use the iPhone "for occasional photo, maybe some light music playing..." IS the majority of Apple's customer base. The phone is made for them. Think of the bell curve. You can buy a Morphie if you want. If Apple shipped a morphie sized phone to everyone, the minority would prefer it, but the majority wouldn't, and it would be bad for business.

For whatever reason, since the 6, Apple decided that thinness takes precedence over battery life. Hence my original comment. I agree that they should have made the phone a bit thicker and put a superior battery inside; again, hence my original comment.
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The obsession with thinness is a myth. Comfort in the hand, fit in the pocket, are things users value. These are also primary drivers at Apple. Thinness can contribute to this. But Apple never "had an obsession." It's not possible for companies to have obsessions, in any case.

I disagree that Apple doesn't have an obsession with thinness. Have you seen Jony Ive's videos over the past 3 years? 'We've managed to make it x percent thinner". Why does a MacBook Pro need to be so thin when the battery sucks and it still doesn't have 32GB RAM? Because of an obsession with thinness. If they are pushing displays and docks so the computer sits most of the time, why does it need to sacrifice other important areas for thinness? If they kept it the same (which was already thin) they could have accommodated more actual "pro" hardware.

About the iPhone: was anybody complaining about the thickness of the iPhone 4 or 5? Progressively going thinner on the iPhone can actually make it more difficult to hold. Somebody I know said the iPhone 7 feels like holding a potato chip. Trust me I like thinness but my biggest complaint about the S6 edge+ is that it lacks in the battery department, yet is the same thickness as the iPhone 6 (6.9mm).

My main point here is that one millimeter isn't going to drastically affect comfort in pocket, but it does affect battery life. I'm not saying it should be a brick, but I believe that given the advancements in technology (wherein Apple's products become increasingly thinner with equivalent battery life) they ought to try keeping the thickness (which is already marvelously thin) and giving it better battery life, or reduce the thickness by a smaller amount and still increase the battery life.

I don't care either way since I use Android and there are many fantastic options. I suspect that Apple's battery technology is about to get so advanced that this discussion won't matter much anymore since they'll be able to make the phones super thin AND have amazing battery life.