iPhone ad rapped as 'misleading'

[Trajectory]

Many upscale product brands are entirely constructed out of flash. nike.com is entirely flash, for example.

But Nike's site downgrades gracefully for those who don't have Flash installed. The Store, for example, is offered in both Flash and HTML. This is how it should be done, and proves that not everyone uses or has Flash installed. Otherwise, Nike wouldn't bother offering their site in two versions if Flash was a standard part of the WWW.

 

[opaqueentity]

The BBC uses flash for all it's audio and video.
Yes the IPlayer works but that doesn't include anything live or anything on BBC News.
Thats a rather big gap.

 

[wreckshop]

But Nike's site downgrades gracefully for those who don't have Flash installed. The Store, for example, is offered in both Flash and HTML. This is how it should be done, and proves that not everyone uses or has Flash installed. Otherwise, Nike wouldn't bother offering their site in two versions if Flash was a standard part of the WWW.

No one is saying that everyone has flash installed. My example was merely to show that there are in fact major websites constructed entirely out of flash, contrary to what some posters may believe.

I'd say the fact that Nike has optimized its online presence around its flash site indicates the corpororation believes that a majority of its visitors already have flash or will have flash installed. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say that the vast majority of computers in the US already have flash installed.

 

[FakeWozniak]

The WAP handset must connect through a gateway which exists solely to connect to the internet. So it's one extra hop. the end result is the same and it seems like you're splitting hairs since the end result is the same.

You seem to consider only HTTP content. The WAP Gateway will translate numerous protocol stackings between WAP phones and HTTP servers. It does not provide IP gateway services.

If you don't believe the sources I referenced earlier, then tell me how any WAP phone can exchange packets with another IP address, using any protocol other than HTTP.

 

[macgruder]

Thinking only teenagers use such language makes me thing you are a very old person indeed. If you are a bit decrepit, do forgive me.
Besides 'duh!' is more succint than the alternatives and as it is usually directed at those who appear to sub teenage in debating skills, also very apposite.

I think you mean 'it is usually directed by those who actually are sub teenage in debating skills'.

Perhaps 'succint' is a succinct version of succinct? Or just another piece of language not recognized by the 'decrepit'.

For some reason this logic reminds me of George the Prince Regent in Blackadder, a character who 'was less intelligent than a piece of lemon peel floating down the Thames', who stated:
"It was only much later that I realized how much more clever it would have been to say: 'oh shut up you stupid old fart'".

No don't worry, I'm not old. I truly don't think only teenagers use such language (as part of an intelligent debate): teenagers and stupid people. Although I admit that I do believe that people who take the time in attempting to justify its use as actual debating are likely to be particularly stupid teenagers.

 

[scottishwildcat]

The bottom line is, the ASA don't usually investigate any adverts unless a significant number of people complain. So presumably, that's what happened.

 

[Piplodocus]

The way I see it is:

Normal sites - better than anyone else
Quicktime - great
Youtube - Great
BBC iplayer - wicked
BBC live stuff, radio and other streamed stuff - doh! No Flash!
Myspace music (THE site that EVERY credible band has a page for and that I can sit about checking out bands playing gigs in my local area and check out new bands friends have suggested) - NOOOOOOO!!!

Luckily I worked this out in the store before I bought one, shortly after working out in the store to my delight that iplayer worked. However, if I'd got more money I could have jumped into buying it there and then had a big feeling of resounding disappointment when I got home!!! It's not quite the full/real internet if large popular sites don't work properly on it. All apple needed to do was say "doesn't do flash/java" in little letters at the bottom of the screen, then everyone can see it's great and is argueably full, but not as "complete" as some would like, and not what normal average (read non-mobile Internet explorer as it's about 70% market share) can do. It's all a bit of a storm in a teacup here. If people can take the advert either way then it should be clarified what it won't do in the disclaimer if a site as popular as myspace music is useless.