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I Sweden orange 17max 512 was mid October inky 45min
In Poland:

iPhone Air - no delay for all variants
iPhone 17 - 7-10 days or 2-3 weeks delay
iPhone 17 Pro - 2-3 weeks delay for most variants
iPhone 17 Pro Max - 3-4 weeks delay

Same or similar in Sweden but did you check right after release like on theminute 14:00? I checked 45 min after release and than was delay
 
Oh please, this is Apple’s oldest magic trick. Oops, we ran out on launch day, yeah right. You’re a trillion-dollar company with the most sophisticated supply chain on Earth, and somehow you still can’t figure out how many phones people will buy? Give me a break. This isn’t incompetence, it’s manufactured scarcity. They’ve been running this same supply-and-demand con for nearly 20 years, and people still eat it up like it’s legit.
I always presumed that they set up production lines to make x amout of phones in a year, and once the initial rush happens then production matches demand, and they can then use the scarcity to hype up the popularity.
 
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Somehow the stock doesn't show such a popularity.

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Why short supplies?, pandemic is over.
Any manufacturer can only make a certain number of devices per month after they call a new design as GM. So then they start stockpiling, but this is tech, so manufacturers need to declare GM at the last possible minute to get the very latest tech into whatever device, which allows less time for stockpiling (which is hella inefficient to do anyway). So there will be "short supplies," some models worse than others depending upon individual demand versus how each exact product was stockpiled.
 
Oh please, this is Apple’s oldest magic trick. Oops, we ran out on launch day, yeah right. You’re a trillion-dollar company with the most sophisticated supply chain on Earth, and somehow you still can’t figure out how many phones people will buy? Give me a break. This isn’t incompetence, it’s manufactured scarcity. They’ve been running this same supply-and-demand con for nearly 20 years, and people still eat it up like it’s legit.
It is neither simplistically about "figure out how many phones people will buy" nor about a "supply-and-demand con." See my earlier post, and try to imagine how you would optimize delivering hundreds of millions of iPhones on September 19th. Would you freeze chip development, etc. many many extra months earlier and start stockpiling (thereby restricting released devices to less current tech) so you could drop all the millions of iPhones precisely on launch day? It is supply and demand, not a con.
 
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There are some notable upgrades to the iPhone line this year. I’m sure those ordering now and in the near future will be happy with their phones and I’m sure Apple will meet its numbers. But I’ve looked closely at the specs over and over and can’t bring myself to pull the trigger. We’ll see what improvements come to the second-gen iPhone Air next year.
 
I Sweden orange 17max 512 was mid October inky 45min


Same or similar in Sweden but did you check right after release like on theminute 14:00? I checked 45 min after release and than was delay
Yesterday, about 2 hours after the pre-orders started, the delay was a little smaller and the iPhone Air was not delayed at all.
 
Oh please, this is Apple’s oldest magic trick. Oops, we ran out on launch day, yeah right. You’re a trillion-dollar company with the most sophisticated supply chain on Earth, and somehow you still can’t figure out how many phones people will buy? Give me a break. This isn’t incompetence, it’s manufactured scarcity. They’ve been running this same supply-and-demand con for nearly 20 years, and people still eat it up like it’s legit.
It’s probably the initial month or so of supplying the physical Apple stores and carriers, wait for the Kuo report in November stating that Apple is cutting orders due to a drop in demand.
 
Yet people saying the pro wasn’t going to sell. Apple has been doing this a long time. No matter if it’s a small or big increment, it’s still sells. I’m glad I got three of the 17 Pro Max phones being delivered on the 19th with my pre-order!
 
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Oh please, this is Apple’s oldest magic trick. Oops, we ran out on launch day, yeah right. You’re a trillion-dollar company with the most sophisticated supply chain on Earth, and somehow you still can’t figure out how many phones people will buy? Give me a break. This isn’t incompetence, it’s manufactured scarcity. They’ve been running this same supply-and-demand con for nearly 20 years, and people still eat it up like it’s legit.
I was going to say something like this as well. I think it's just a marketing strategy—to make it seem like the 17s are selling out like hotcakes, in order to impress stockholders and people who are holding off (making them feel pressured to buy now rather than wait).

I checked the availability yesterday in the San Francisco Bay Area, and most of the phones were still available by nighttime—except for the base models of the 17 Pro Max in Orange, 17 in Sage, and Air in Cloud White. Everything else was available for pickup on the 19th.

So I don’t believe all these phones are truly sold out on the 19th. It feels more like a strategy to manipulate stockholders.
 
Was it me or was there a lot more excitement this year vs last year? Even though the Pros are polarizing in design and colors, they seemed to be really popular and have quite notable hardware improvements.
 
All air models appear available on the 19th in the UK can anyone confirm that as a pre order in the UK or you can just go to Amazon UK and pick up a 17 pro for launch day delivery in any colour apart from silver 1TB
 
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Oh please, this is Apple’s oldest magic trick. Oops, we ran out on launch day, yeah right. You’re a trillion-dollar company with the most sophisticated supply chain on Earth, and somehow you still can’t figure out how many phones people will buy? Give me a break. This isn’t incompetence, it’s manufactured scarcity. They’ve been running this same supply-and-demand con for nearly 20 years, and people still eat it up like it’s legit.
No, there is just a limit to how many phones the manufacturing line can make each day and how many days of manufacturing Apple wants to store (under pretty freaking hard core security) before the announcement. There will always be shortages because of the reality of the limits of the size of manufacturing lines and Apple's limit on how many pre-announcement phones they want to keep track of and try to keep from being stolen.
 
Was it me or was there a lot more excitement this year vs last year? Even though the Pros are polarizing in design and colors, they seemed to be really popular and have quite notable hardware improvements.
New camera plateau in the back compared to prior generations to appease the fickle mindset.
 
I'm in the UK and ordered an orange 512GB Pro Max about 15 minutes after orders opened. I had already filled out the pre-order and couldn't be on at exactly 1300 BST as I was travelling to London to see Coldplay at the time! I was quite astonished to be given an estimated delivery of 6th-13th October and no option to pick up in-store, which would have been my preferred option.

This is first time ever that I've not been able to pick up my new phone from my local store on launch day. I'm puzzled as to why I wasn't even given the option to pick up the phone in-store.
 
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