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Oh please, this is Apple’s oldest magic trick. Oops, we ran out on launch day, yeah right. You’re a trillion-dollar company with the most sophisticated supply chain on Earth, and somehow you still can’t figure out how many phones people will buy? Give me a break. This isn’t incompetence, it’s manufactured scarcity. They’ve been running this same supply-and-demand con for nearly 20 years, and people still eat it up like it’s legit.
If true, sounds unethical to me
 
I have the money. Saw the Air which intrigued me with the design. Saw the size of the Camera Bump that made it twice the thickness on one end. I'll skip that ugly thing. Looked at the other model... the Orange Mango Color...yuck for both of them.
 
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I ordered a Pro Max at launch time. Took about 10 minutes to get in and by then delivery time already slipped from Sept 19 to Sept 26.

Then the next day I get an Apple email saying delivery was now Sept 19.

Go figure.
 
Availability of the Air is due to the combination of:
- people waiting for once for reviews to see IRL bending & battery test before pulling the trigger
- Apple postponing last minute the launch of the Air in China thus reallocating supply to other countries (assuming the phones are not technically tied to country/region resp. capacity can be switched quickly)
- the phone being the most radical compromise since for ever

Can’t wait to get mine on Friday. It might help me to touch more grass and spend less time documenting every second of my life like a Werner Herzog documentary, because I won’t have 3 lenses anymore (or 12 according to Apple black magic Marketing).
 
I ordered a Pro Max at launch time. Took about 10 minutes to get in and by then delivery time already slipped from Sept 19 to Sept 26.

Then the next day I get an Apple email saying delivery was now Sept 19.

Go figure.
Apple made a big mistake…intentional or unintentional and had separate default dates for shipping vs ISPU. I have two posts in the forum regarding this issue. The confirmation that this issue existed were my two phone discussions with the Apple Executive team on launch day. They corrected the shipping dates for those customers who would have otherwise had a 09/19 shipping date based on position in the order que.
 
It is neither simplistically about "figure out how many phones people will buy" nor about a "supply-and-demand con." See my earlier post, and try to imagine how you would optimize delivering hundreds of millions of iPhones on September 19th. Would you freeze chip development, etc. many many extra months earlier and start stockpiling (thereby restricting released devices to less current tech) so you could drop all the millions of iPhones precisely on launch day? It is supply and demand, not a con.
Nope, I think there will be a lot of people who don’t order the new iPhone initially because of the delays. If you order through a carrier to get a promo, you pay upgrade fees, upgrade fees, etc., up front. I could see a lot of people deciding to wait a little longer and then just deciding wait until Black Friday, and then come up with an excuse to wait until the next iPhone or maybe just got with a different one altogether.

Same reason car dealerships have models on the lot. People don’t want to wait. People are less likely to buy the new iPhone if it doesn’t feel like it’s really brand new by the time they’ll get it.
 
Every time, it's funny watching the natural progression:
  1. New iPhone design announced and it is bashed by some as the ugliest phone ever -- "APPLE IS DOOMED"
  2. An hour after launch, it's still available for Launch Day delivery and same people claim it's clear evidence that it's a flop -- "APPLE IS DOOMED"
  3. A few hours later, shipping estimates slip to a few days after launch day, then a few weeks. Same people claim it's clearly Apple manipulating the supply and creating "artificial scarcity" to "create the illusion of demand" -- "APPLE IS DOOMED"
  4. Next quarterly earnings, we hear that it was the best selling iPhone ever and made the company a bajillion dollars
Meanwhile, each year, I grab my popcorn and just enjoy the show. :D
 

They have no source. They’re just making up bs.
Pipe down and do research instead. Base is always the top selling model.



 
Best Buy still has them all available for pick up or delivery on release day (9/19) except the cloud white air with 1TB

I got the 2TB PM at about 8:02am and it is showing 9/24-9/30. Looking at your message, I went to the BB site and it has it available for delivery on 9/19. I may have to order from BB! Thanks. I'm hoping it gets bumped - the Pro 1TB we ordered is now 9/19.
 
It is neither simplistically about "figure out how many phones people will buy" nor about a "supply-and-demand con." See my earlier post, and try to imagine how you would optimize delivering hundreds of millions of iPhones on September 19th. Would you freeze chip development, etc. many many extra months earlier and start stockpiling (thereby restricting released devices to less current tech) so you could drop all the millions of iPhones precisely on launch day? It is supply and demand, not a con.
Apple is the most sophisticated supply chain operator on the planet if anyone can forecast, stage, and roll product, it’s them. Acting like they’re somehow victims of complexity just doesn’t line up. They already know chip yields, assembly capacity, and shipping lanes months out. If they really wanted to, they could balance production and launch inventory better. Instead, they choose to ride the scarcity narrative because it keeps hype high and margins safe. That’s not supply and demand, that’s manufactured demand pressure.
 
They have no source. They’re just making up bs.
It's hard to say what the actual breakdown is, since Apple doesn't release those figures. There are a number of sources claiming to have more or less reliable estimates, with some showing the base model is the biggest seller, but other reliable sources for the 15 and 16 series iPhones show that in the US, for their entire year-long release, the Pro Max might have sold better than any of the other models, though global sales are less certain, with some figures showing the Pro Max sells the most worldwide too, while other figures show the base model sells the most, with the Pro Max only a couple percentage points behind.

Note also that the three articles linked above are all from Nov 2024, when sales figures for the 16 series over its full year release period were especially unavailable yet since it had just been released only two months before. Often initial iPhone sales favor the lower-cost models. Later quarterly reports in 2025 show that the 16 Pro Max pulled ahead again of the base model, but not by as much as with the 15 series.

In any case, Apple sells enough Pro Max models to show that they should keep making more.
 
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It's hard to say what the actual breakdown is, since Apple doesn't release those figures. There are a number of sources claiming to have more or less reliable estimates, with some showing the base model is the biggest seller, but other reliable sources for the 15 and 16 series iPhones show that in the US, for their entire year-long release, the Pro Max might have sold better than any of the other models, though global sales are less certain, with some figures showing the Pro Max sells the most worldwide too, while other figures show the base model sells the most, with the Pro Max only a couple percentage points behind.

Note also that the three articles linked above are all from Nov 2024, when sales figures for the 16 series over its full year release period were especially unavailable yet since it had just been released only two months before. Often initial iPhone sales favor the lower-cost models. Later quarterly reports in 2025 show that the 16 Pro Max pulled ahead again of the base model, but not by as much as with the 15 series.

In any case, Apple sells enough Pro Max models to show that they should keep making more.
But you didn’t actually read the articles though. I’m not speculating. I’m providing multiple sources as requested. I have yet to see anyone provide any rebuttal sources just more “trust me bro”.

“Since the iPhone 14 series in 2022, the regular iPhone has consistently been Apple’s top-selling handset, and it’s not even close.

The base iPhones 14, 15, and 16 represent about 45% of annual iPhone sales.”

 
Same thing every year.

- Wait times grow long suggesting high sales numbers.

- People say it’s just Apple limiting supply to make it look like it’s popular.

- Apple releases their earnings call and reports record iPhone revenues.

Rinse & repeat.
 
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I was surprised in my case it went from 9/25 to 10/7 -10/14 pretty quickly. I am in the latest window so I will not be getting it on launch day, but that's cool. I ordered the iPhone 17 PM 256 GB Cosmic Orange. This will be my first PM since my 12 PM was shattered several months back. I've waited that long I guess I can wait a little longer. 😊
 
Pipe down and do research instead. Base is always the top selling model.



You stated “bc they make the least amount of them”. None of those reports state anything about numbers produced. Not to mention those are year old articles.

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Source for THIS YEAR? You should quit now. LOL
 
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