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Should Apple make an iPhone Air Mini

  • Yes

    Votes: 81 46.6%
  • No

    Votes: 79 45.4%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 14 8.0%

  • Total voters
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I get it, lots of people here legitimately love the Air because form factor is important. And it is nice.

It's just when people say, "it has the same battery life as a 2023 iPhone," it's silly. They think it's a good thing, but the vast majority of consumers see it as a bad thing.
No arguments here👍🏽

The Air has the poorest battery life out of all 17 series iPhones for sure and I understand battery life is an important factor. When using my Air, I am typically around a power source whether it’s in my car, home or use of MagSafe battery packs.

Either way this is not an issue for me and I will have my 13 mini as my backup iPhone when I’m dailying my Air in case I want to take an ultra wide angle shot (even if it’s at 12MP). I have been doing this since December and it has been working out well for me so far😊
 
I get it, lots of people here legitimately love the Air because form factor is important. And it is nice.

It's just when people say, "it has the same battery life as a 2023 iPhone," it's silly. They think it's a good thing, but the vast majority of consumers see it as a bad thing.
Just curious: what is your phone of choice and what pros/cons have you experienced with it?
 
No arguments here👍🏽

The Air has the poorest battery life out of all 17 series iPhones for sure and I understand battery life is an important factor. When using my Air, I am typically around a power source whether it’s in my car, home or use of MagSafe battery packs.

Either way this is not an issue for me and I will have my 13 mini as my backup iPhone when I’m dailying my Air in case I want to take an ultra wide angle shot (even if it’s at 12MP). I have been doing this since December and it has been working out well for me so far😊

Well, you have three iPhones (a 17 Pro, Air and 13 mini), so your case will be different from someone trying to pick just one. If you could keep only one of your three, which one would you choose? FWIW, I have a 12 mini lying around for a backup, but I would not need to take it with me on top of my baseline 17, as 17 covers all of my needs.
 
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Because expectations change. People want to buy today's technology.

The chip in iPhone 15 Pro wasn't slow when it first launched. But now, nobody would choose A17 for their new phone.

Why should someone buying a new iPhone in 2026 accept the same battery performance from 2023?

Yes but that’s my point. The Air has much better battery performance than a phone from 2023 and yet people say it’s lacking.

Also most people that say that I feel don’t even own an air and are just rabbiting blindly soundbites from the internet that don’t reflect reality.
 
Well, you have three iPhones (a 17 Pro, Air and 13 mini), so your case will be different from someone trying to pick just one. If you could keep only one of your three, which one would you choose? FWIW, I have a 12 mini lying around for a backup, but I would not need to take it with me on top of my baseline 17, as 17 covers all of my needs.
Obviously my use case is unique in that I have access to many iPhones that can still be used today. Currently I have been using my 15 Pro with my green 13 mini this week.

To answer your question if I “had” to choose only one iPhone to use, like normal iPhone users, I would still most likely take my Air as the iPhone I would use. This is probably why I gravitated towards the discontinued iPhone 13 mini because, like the Air, the 13 mini did not sell well. Even though I selected the Air as the iPhone I would use, for me, the 13 mini would come in as a close second on iPhones I would use.

Fortunately for me, I can do this and I like having the options I now have rather than just be limited a single choice for iPhones to use.
 
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The Air is only possible because they stuffed as much as they could into a massive camera bump. If you make the screen smaller the bump will have to be even more hilariously large. Im still rocking a 13mini and wont upgrade until a decent option is available. I was very keen on the air (despite the massive screen size) but laughed when I saw the massive bump so didn't buy it. I think many people did the same.
 
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Yes but that’s my point. The Air has much better battery performance than a phone from 2023 and yet people say it’s lacking.

Also most people that say that I feel don’t even own an air and are just rabbiting blindly soundbites from the internet that don’t reflect reality.

You still don't get it. iPhone Air doesn't perform like the rest of the 2025 lineup. It has worse battery life than iPhone 17. That's what people compare against, not 2024 or 2023 devices.

People are buying a phone today, they don't want last gen battery performance.
 
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Just curious: what is your phone of choice and what pros/cons have you experienced with it?

16 Pro Max because I want the largest display available. I tether for work so the big battery helps. Even though I use ultrawide lens maybe 15% of the time, there's no substitute for it. In terms of weight, there's not been a situation where I thought, "this thing could be lighter or thinner."
 
You still don't get it. iPhone Air doesn't perform like the rest of the 2025 lineup. It has worse battery life than iPhone 17. That's what people compare against, not 2024 or 2023 devices.

People are buying a phone today, they don't want last gen battery performance.

Yes but the air doesn’t have “bad” battery life as most people say it does. When people say it’s lacking they don’t comment it’s lacking only versus the 17 lineup, it just gets labelled as it’s lacking period.

It gets an unfair reputation and that’s what I find annoying.
 
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Yes but the air doesn’t have “bad” battery life as most people say it does. When people say it’s lacking they don’t comment it’s lacking only versus the 17 lineup, it just gets labelled as it’s lacking period.

It gets an unfair reputation and that’s what I find annoying.

  • Good (33/36 hours) = iPhone 17 Pro/Max
  • Average (30 hours) = iPhone 17
  • Bad (27 hours) = iPhone Air

Again, you still don’t get it. Of course everyone is comparing it to the 17 lineup. What else should they compare it to? Why should they move the goalposts and compare to old tech?

Nobody complained about iPhone 11 battery life. Should we compare Air against that?
 
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  • Good (33/36 hours) = iPhone 17 Pro/Max
  • Average (30 hours) = iPhone 17
  • Bad (27 hours) = iPhone Air

Again, you still don’t get it. Of course everyone is comparing it to the 17 lineup. What else should they compare it to? Why should they move the goalposts and compare to old tech?

Nobody complained about iPhone 11 battery life. Should we compare Air against that?

I get exactly what you’re saying. The point I’m making is the air simply doesn’t have the bad battery life many keep on saying.

It lasts me all day easy with +30% left. Objectively that’s good. It’s not bad whereas everyone says it’s lacking and terrible.

You keep comparing to newer phones with better battery and that’s fine, I get it, but my point is singled out on its own the airs battery is good, not lacking or whatever else you want to label it. That’s what I find unfair, not the fact there are other phones with better battery.
 
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If an iPhone Flip ever makes it to market that should take care of the market for an iPhone mini. An iPhone Air mini sounds absurd at this stage of the game.
 
Im a mini phone person but I don't want a flip phone. Candybar format works fine and always has.
But that isn’t what Apple is going to give you. If they make another foldable iPhone besides the Fold it will be a Flip. There’s no more candy bar format in iPhones coming out of Cupertino. This is the reality that I am trying to convey.
 
I think it'd be great.

Edit to add: I had the 12 mini at one time and never had battery issues, I just wanted a larger screen after a while.
 
But that isn’t what Apple is going to give you. If they make another foldable iPhone besides the Fold it will be a Flip. There’s no more candy bar format in iPhones coming out of Cupertino. This is the reality that I am trying to convey.
Who said I’d buy Apple?
 
iphone 13: 3227 mah battery
iphone 13 mini: 2406 mah battery (74.5%)

iphone 17/17pro: ~4000 mah battery
iphone Air: 3149 mah battery (~78%)

So, if you made an iphone air mini, it would likely have less than 60% of the battery capacity of a regular or pro model, but maybe way less. You figure most of the internal components of the phones don't shrink, so shrinking the body makes for a direct cut to the overall battery size. You might be looking at something like 50% battery capacity. I just don't see that selling at all.
 
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  • Good (33/36 hours) = iPhone 17 Pro/Max
  • Average (30 hours) = iPhone 17
  • Bad (27 hours) = iPhone Air

Again, you still don’t get it. Of course everyone is comparing it to the 17 lineup. What else should they compare it to? Why should they move the goalposts and compare to old tech?
Don't trust Apple's numbers. Nobody uses their phone for constant uninterrupted video playback, so this measurement is both artificial and severely lacking. Apple has moved the goalposts several times in how they "measure" batteries and I find it dishonest.

Here's some more realistic numbers. Just keep in mind this was tested with 26.0, so hopefully some battery optimizations in the last few months have improved these numbers across the board:

Screenshot 2026-02-17 105553.jpg


The base 17 to the Pro have pretty small differences (and the Pro actually performed worse for battery in gaming, though it probably got better gaming performance as a result). So I wouldn't rate the Pro's battery as good and the base 17 as average. They are roughly the same. They are both pretty average phones and will get 80% of users through 80% of the day without thinking about their battery.

However, the Air is almost 2 hours less usage across the board in every metric, so no matter what your usage, you are going to be plugging in your phone a couple hours earlier. That might be fine if you work a retail job where your phone has to stay in your pocket 8 hours a day or if you mostly use your phone during the day and then switch to an iPad when you get home. Lots of use cases where an Air is good enough. But it is behind and that will only get more noticeable when the battery ages and the OS updates get more taxing over the years.

Now an iPhone Air mini would compromise that further. Expect another 2 hours less or more. Heat becomes an issue at smaller sizes, which makes the battery cook and degrades it faster. How many use cases are there for a phone with a 10 hour battery? How about an 8 hour battery? The cutoff will vary with your needs, but every impact you make to the battery makes the potential audience for the device that much smaller. Seems destined to be a failure and probably wouldn't make it as far as even prototyping.

So everyone asks: Why not just move to Silicon Carbide batteries? SiC are denser, so they can be made thinner and vendors can stack multiple cells to deliver big 6000+ mAh batteries. However, there is real downside to SiC too. They lose battery health much more rapidly, so they only have an expected lifespan of 500-ish cycles. They also expand more as they age, so they may damage other interior components or, worse, rupture under the stress and start a battery fire. An Air is already a very thin phone, so that expansion would be catastrophic.

On an infinite timescale, maybe some solid state battery tech makes a thin, mini phone an easy thing to produce. But by that point we also might have moved past slab phones as a concept altogether.
 
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The battery debate is almost completely irrelevant. Every one uses their phone differently. I have a 13 Mini and to this day it barely gets below 75% by the end of the day. My brother has a ProMaxUltraAwesomePro and he's always complaining about the battery life!

You could have the biggest battery in the world but if you're mining bitcoin its not going to last very long.
 
The battery debate is almost completely irrelevant.
Among us, sure. We are not the decision makers. Among Apple product designers, software developers, marketing team, and leadership -- it is very relevant. If Apple wants to keep pushing the OS to do more with Apple Intelligence or Liquid Glass or whatever is next, then they do not want to be held back by mediocre hardware. They want as much headroom as possible and any reason to make a cut has to have a very clear benefit to a large enough market that it makes it a good business decision. Apple is a For Profit company and anyone internally pitching a small phone with less battery is going to have a huge uphill battle.
 
battery life/capacity is literally a talking point for every phone released in the last 20 years. Sure, it varies based on usage, but having metrics to compare different devices is important to most consumers.
 
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