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iPhone Alternative: Helio Ocean

Telp said:
I gotta say, as far as a comparison chart goes, that one is very poor. True, it goes into what people want to know about it, but all it does is take what the iphone doesnt have, and say the ocean does have it. It doesnt go into battery life, video, music, screen resolution, all the stuff like that. Very good marketing if your going for the young oblivious consumers.
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That's the problem with comparison charts - whoever makes them can decide what is compared. For example, an iPod/(other mp3 player that will remain nameless) might mention that you can't get the iPod in brown... :rolleyes:

If Apple made the comparison chart, it would mention that the iPhone has superior battery life, a full-featured browser, a touch screen, visual voicemail, much faster and cheaper data connections when in a WiFi hotspot, intuitive controls, seamless connection your Mac, and the fact that it is compatible with the world's number one music download store, iTunes.

And, of course, the fact that it has a drop-dead look and feel to it...

Just too bad we can't get the iPhone in Canada. I suppose I could look into the Helios, but the data plan would be outrageous...
 
Badandy said:
Get a life. You must be joking now. If not, you are in dire need of something humorous in your life.



It. is. a. joke.
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You win. Thanks to you, I realize there is absolutely nothing to read into this weird MacRumors post that runs any deeper than a shallow joke.

Just for you, I just ordered a life. It's supposed to arrive Wednesday — if FedEx can pull it off.
 
Matthew Yohe said:
MacRumors.com mission is to be one of the best and most respected rumors site on the net. It currently does this and is very good at bringing in many hits.

The problem I see with this "nudge" to Apple is that is is unfounded. You are literally undermining Apple's advertising efforts with your superior rumors yet you expect Apple to invite you to their party.

Why do gizmodo and engadget get passes and you don't? I think you know very well why:

"Now I think Gizmodo and Engadget do a great job in general, but they’ve never been a reliable source of original Apple rumors."
-- arn's blog August 5th​


You're right, they are not as good as MacRumors in reporting original, legit rumors. They simply report news and rumor runoff from other sites, and draw in quite the crowd while doing so. Inviting MacRumors to an Apple event would be like inviting ThePirateBay to a movie premiere!

Is this making any sense?

In your latest blog entry you stated you want to maintain the integrity of MacRumors:

"If we posted every submission that sounded at all plausible, we would lose a lot of respect from our regulars."

I think there is a lot of weight in that last bit there. Don't lose your way.
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wanted to quote this for posterity, good post.
 
Just add a "/snark" to the end of the post, and then all should be clear.
 
well, the helio ocean has many things i wish the iphone had:

Apple, please get with these features:
- 3G
- 3+ megapixel camera with flash, also expansion memory card
- slide out full keyboard (virtual keyboard is well not great for full use)
- SMS messaging with media, both pics and video
- lnstant messaging
- centralized mailbox/messagebox - to keep all the incoming messages in one place. instead of switching to check different mailboxes.
- push email, to receive messages when received by server, ie blackberry.
- more than one key on the front panel, ie like helio ocean, add a couple more buttons.

hell, it would be great if apple would certify more programs to run on it, and not handicap it to only do programs via Safari.
 
But how does the Helio compare to these?
 

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Darkroom said:
i admire this "rumour" as being passive-aggressive towards apple... very clever... apple should invite macrumors to their media events.
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Yes, clever in the manner than making friends with someone's enemy/competition is a good method to make friends with them.

This article is disappointing. I thought MacRumors was a higher quality site than to stoop to this, not to mention posting something obviously posed to cause regulars to loose confidence in MR. :(
 
While I agree that MacRumors as a rumor site should not necessarily be there, the function that macrumorslive plays during one of these presentations seems reason enough to have someone there doing a live blog. I know that the other sites may have one still but I personally have found this one to be the best.

Steve
 
....Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!
That's great. It made my night. Now, when I wake up, I hope new iMacs/iPods/iGadgets will be available.
 
Well ... duh

Darkroom said:
their comparison chart is so boasting and misleading (not possible to IM with iPhone? yeah right, etc.)
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*GASP* A comparsion chart that favours their own product ?¿? Shocking!

Actually, the Helio folk seem to like the iPhone ... in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if all the iPhone hype has been good for Helios bottom line.

Clearly, they're going for a different sort of device here that focuses more explicitedly on communication and web 2.0 functionality (with the My-lame-Space intergration) than the iPhone, which excels primarily as a mobile web-browser and its iPod media viewing slickness. Not having IM built in is indictative of this.

I wonder if Helio's lack of success to date wasn't a major factor in Apple not starting up an MVNO instead of working exclusively with AT&T. [Doesn't Helio's service operate with two different mobile vendors?]

Intriguing device, too bad neither it nor the iPhone is available up in the frigid mobile landscape of Canuckistan.
 
panamajack said:
*GASP* A comparsion chart that favours their own product ?¿? Shocking!

Actually, the Helio folk seem to like the iPhone ... in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if all the iPhone hype has been good for Helios bottom line.

Clearly, they're going for a different sort of device here that focuses more explicitedly on communication and web 2.0 functionality (with the My-lame-Space intergration) than the iPhone, which excels primarily as a mobile web-browser and it's iPod media viewing slickness. Not having IM built in is indictative of this.

I wonder if Helio's lack of success to date wasn't a major factor in Apple not starting up an MVNO instead of working exclusively with AT&T. [Doesn't Helio's service operate with two different mobile vendors?]

Intriguing device, too bad neither it nor the iPhone is available up in the frigid mobile landscape of Canuckistan.
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Come on now, Canuckistan? Any backwater former Soviet republic has better mobile service options than Canada. :rolleyes:
 
This is way higher spec than the iphone!

Yes its not as pretty and the interface of the iphone is better but im not sure those 2 points would make up for its instant messaging/gps/3g and qwerty keboard!
 
Awesome!

I have an Ocean and LOVE it! Helio is such a tiny company compared to Apple, but they put out a product that's better in a lot of ways and less expensive - you have to respect that!

Good job, Helio! Thanks Arn for letting everyone know about this. I'm sure it'll even raise a few eyebrows at Apple and encourage them to play catch up to Helio :D
 
arn said:
No. No advertising money was exchanged.

Hey... if I were on a plane to SF to report on a certain Media event... then I'd be too busy to explore this sort of thing. :)


arn
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Thought so. ;) Apple didn't invite MR to the event. This gives them (Apple) a good reason to do so in the future - keeping Arnold from suggesting alternatives to the faithful.
 
Agree!!!

massiv said:
Hmmm... someone please tell me that this is not blatant advertising money switching hands here. This is straight from a sell sheet from Helio. What's up with this Arn? Am I not on MacRumors.com?

Not sure about all of you guys but I am kind of shocked at MR. I can keep an open mind while on Endgadget but this is not why I read MR. This kinda sucks.

*/ This is lame */

=)
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I totally agree... I kept an open mind and checked it out, but what the he11 is this doing on here??? He even said in the post.... well while we wait.... is this just some crap you put up because there was nothing else to talk about??? lol Come on, seriously....
 
I have new for some of you... This isn't your site. Make your site and post what you want. Who cares if he posted this no matter what the reason!? Get over yourselves and lighten up. Jeez. Big babies the lot.
 
After years and years (seems that way...) of iPhone hype... Arn posts one article suggesting that the iPhone isn't better that all the alternatives at everything and all the "bois" goes ******* "HOW DARE YOU DEFILE OUR BELIEFS, blasphemer!!!1111!!" (more or less, but with suggestions of "money changing hands" and so on...

There are (probably) more than hundred different phones that are "better" than the iPhone in one way or another (certainly better price/performance for most people), try not to take it personally... ;)
 
different slant

Hi... I'm going to look at it this way...

If I was out and a hot looking chick asked if I could borrow my phone... and I pulled out a Helios Ocean. She would instantly know that I'm a geek and would never ever stand a chance...

If I pulled out an iPhone (And I hope it is released here in the UK soon cause I'm getting impatient!) She would look somewhat impressed! I know this (even tho I don't have one yet) because all the girls I know are asking about when the iPhone is going to be released (I work in the telecoms industry) because they really like it and they think it's pretty etc etc.

So regardless of what the functions of either phones, I would still choose the iPhone as at least I would have a 'chick repellant' device in my pocket (or backpack looking at the size of it!!!!)

Macam
 
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