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To me the Ocean is a perfect example of what it is that Apple has that other companies lack. In a feature chart, and even in advertisements, it looks great. But it's missing the design, attention to detail and user interface that Apple has. Without those, all the features in the world don't make it appealing to me.

That said, if the iPhone didn't exist, I probably would get an Ocean. It may not be excellent (like the iPhone) but it's pretty good compared to the other phones out there.
 
no wifi and no web browser. A completely different product. Really expensive testing device.
 
Of course things such as built-in flash camera and 3G are out of the picture...
Not to mention GPS. :eek: I don't often stray outta my comfort zone and I know GPS would likely be of great benefit and a great selling point to a lotta folks if the iPhone had it.

And I agree with mduser63, that if people bother reading some reviews on the Ocean and other "comparable" products, people inevitably come to the conclusion that even if the iPhone lacks some features, it definitely packs a punch w/ it's user interface/ OS.
 
Not to jump on the bandwagon, but Arn this does definitely seem out of place, especially the large image. At best, this seems like a Macbytes article. Admittedly, the Ocean has some interesting features and I'm open to debate about the pros and cons of the iPhone but I hope this article isn't a harbinger of things to come.
 
No. No advertising money was exchanged.

Hey... if I were on a plane to SF to report on a certain Media event... then I'd be too busy to explore this sort of thing. :)

arn

So whats the deal with a non MAC product on MacRumors? This has nothing to do with MACs, why not post this on the iPhoneBlog page.

Just happens that a post about the Helio Ocean shows up the day before an Apple event? when traffic is up on the site... something is up for sure.

Is someone bitter about Engadget getting an invite?

this is really lame - I would expect better from MacRumors
 
Is it just me or does this and the previous post smack of bitterness over not being invited to a certain media event? (partly confirmed by arn's reply in this thread)

Awaiting "media" coverage?

Really Arn, show that you are above such petty traits and keep MR professional.

Edit: I see that it wasn't just me :p
 
Really Arn, show that you are above such petty traits and keep MR professional.

It's not really pettiness. The timing was really intended to be humorous more than anything. :) Feel free to debate iphone vs helio. It is a serious post.

arn
 
WTF?

Though I hit the heliorumors button instead of the macrumors button.

Tell me you are getting something out of splashing that thing across the front page? Even if its just personal satisfaction or retribution.
 
Am I on the wrong site?

I still prefer a candybar form factor. Helio has always made me think of the teeny MySpace.
 
Reminds me of the Sony Mylo. Sure I'd prefer an iPhone. But hey it's always helpful to see how other people do things, right?

And I think some of us here are acting a little immature with accusations of pettiness on the part of MR admins etc. We need to lighten up a little. :)
 
You people really need some perspective.

Arn is worse than Hitler! And Saddam! Combined!

:rolleyes:
 
QUOTE=Flowbee]
I also agree that Arn should have been invited to the Apple 'special event.'
Me too. [/QUOTE]


No he shouldn't - hes running a rumor site, not a news site - if he starts getting invited to Apple events or gets any special treatment at all from Apple then it opens the possibility that Arn will start to censor or not release certain rumors just so that he doesnt jeopardize his relationship with Apple.

While Apple loves hype and attention they still hate leaks and rumors - I am not surprized that Arn wasnt invited.

Keep up the good work Arn - all your readers appreciate it!
 
Well, in the absence of any good leaks, I guess that following this controversy will be a good way to pass the time between now and the Apple announcement.
 
While Apple loves hype and attention they still hate leaks and rumors - I am not surprized that Arn wasnt invited.

Despite what people think, I'm not surprised either. We've never been invited to Apple media events, and doing so could introduce some conflict of interest. (ex. should I post this new rumor, or will apple pull our media pass). That being said, sites like Engadget and Gizmodo run Apple rumors all the time.

arn
 
I think it would be cool if more direct comparisons like this were done with Apple products. Or, it might even be fun to have the editors and admins collaborate an official review of new Apple products and post them on the front page; then we could debate the review in the comments.

Otherwise I have no idea why this is being posted.... except maybe to smite Apple. o_O
 
Yeesh, I'm a little surprised by how superficial some of the posters in this thread seem... the idea of features not mattering when compared to the looks of your gadget... good grief, fanboys will do anything to justify being happy without standard capabilities like IM or video recording. If it's usability we're talking about, well, that's a little different, but all the usability in the world won't matter if your device doesn't do what you want it to in the first place.
 
No he shouldn't - hes running a rumor site, not a news site - if he starts getting invited to Apple events or gets any special treatment at all from Apple then it opens the possibility that Arn will start to censor or not release certain rumors just so that he doesnt jeopardize his relationship with Apple.

While Apple loves hype and attention they still hate leaks and rumors - I am not surprized that Arn wasnt invited.

Keep up the good work Arn - all your readers appreciate it!

Neither am I surprised, rather, it's the sentimental side of things. Arn has done so much work for MacRumors that it'd have been nice if he was invited to go.
 
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