Steve Jobs is gone, but if Tim Cook wants to pick up that "thermal nuclear torch", I suppose he's welcome to. [shrug]
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
iPhone App Sideloading Coming to Users in the EU in First Half of 2024
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
This sounds more like a user error thing. While we're at it, do stay vigilant because things like social engineering with phishing and scam links... that's something even current iOS users fall victim to.
Got Monument Valley for $5, along with a slew of other, DRM free games. Man, those were the days!
History seems to indicate otherwise.
For Ebay, sellers tend to lose a lot of business if payment isn't gone through PayPal.
I used be a big, Palm OS techie back in the 00s and into the mid 10s. How people are geeking out on their Android and iOS devices... I and others used to do for Palm OS devices, and the competing Windows Mobile (NOT to be confused with Windows Phone, which came much later, but is now also defunct). Most people didn't trust their purchases on "non-established" sites.
Hell, on Android, the vast majority of folks don't want to go outside of Google Play.
I was told in this thread to stop using Apple products and just switch to Android.So long as it's about non-EU companies, right
Well guess what. If Apple doesn't like the new law, they can stop selling their products in the EU and just sell them elsewhere 🙃.
Other than the EU it’s a take it or leave it package. You don’t get to pick and choose what you want to vote your $$$ with.
I'd imagine part of Apple's calculus here is the rising populism in the US as well-- can't exit all the markets...
Go ahead, get the ball rolling, and sue them! It seems iOS is a big enough player for this to have happened (rightfully so, as they do have large market share)
Likewise, if Apple doesn't want to do this, they're welcome to pull out of the EU. I doubt it though b/c they couldn't leave China alone either.
Also consider that if you want to work for or with Apple, you're subject to their terms and conditions.
Yes. Also interesting that Apple does not have any scruples doing business in China. Maybe that's a good prediction of how this Apple vs. EU spat is going to play out.
Plainly untrueSo long as it's about non-EU companies, right
You know how Apple is constantly making a fuss about privacy and about how they want to protect their customers data with enryption? The Chinese government demanded from them that all customer data needs to be stored in data centers controlled by Chinese entities seperate from Apple, including encryption keys. What did Apple do? They caved and handed everything over. That's how principled they are.
The App Store is also curated to the gusto of the party, but that's probably not so suprising.
I'd argue that the EU is mostly two countries and that it's not that amazing to pass protectionist regulations that affect foreign businesses to the potential benefit of local ones. They may very well have higher motivations than that, but at the end of the day if they damage a business with this nonsense it won't be a European one.
I've admired the EU up until fairly recently. The EU is a peace initiative more than anything, and it's done ok over the years but I think those benefits are showing they aren't ironclad. I think a lot of their environmental regulations were quite admirable. I think their free movement of people and goods model was a triumph of (social) science over protectionism. I think the 2 nation quality of the EU became painfully evident during the post-2008 financial crisis, and I think they've begun to badly overstep in how they regulate spectrum and now consumer electronics.
All together, I'd probably try to look past recent events and agree with "not perfect but quite good".
That's not completely true. Apple controls their encryption keys in China.
Apple's Security Compromises in China Outlined in New Report
Apple has been making concessions on privacy and security in order to continue building and selling its devices in China, according to an in-depth...
www.macrumors.com
"Ultimately, the encryption keys ended up in China, a decision that "surprised" two unnamed Apple executives who worked on the negotiations and who said that the decision could potentially endanger customer data."That's not true. Apple controls their encryption keys in China.
Apple's Security Compromises in China Outlined in New Report
Apple has been making concessions on privacy and security in order to continue building and selling its devices in China, according to an in-depth...
Quote from the article you linked to. Thank you for looking it up!
Keep reading. They are in China under Apple's control.
So what? And when a Chinese security service asks for a key, they will give it to them. Or do you think Apple will sue the Chinese government over this? They would be loughed out of the court room, buy the judge 🤣.
So you were wrong. I was correcting you.
I'm just saying they havent left China. They won't leave the EU.
No, it doesn't. That's just speculation and fearmongering.
I would suggest to you to read up on how the Chinese society works. It would be very naive to assume that Apple is in any way able to protect their customers data from the Chinese government once they are stored in China by companies most likely affiliated with state-owned enterprises.
There is an excellent Podcast from the Economist I can recommend to you about China. I think they also covered the Chinese tech sector several times. It's called 'Drum Tower' and you should be able to find it on Apple Podcasts. But don't try to find it on a Chinese iPhone, I'm 100% certain it's censored there
.Edit: I just noticed that the Podcast is now paid. It used to be free with ads.
Last edited:
None of that changes the fact that Apple controlling the encryption keys in China is different than the keys being in the control of the Chinese government.I would suggest to you to read up on how the Chinese society works. It would be very naive to assume that Apple is in any way able to protect their customers data from the Chinese government once they are stored in China by companies most likely affiliated with state-owned enterprises.
There is an excellent Podcast from the Economist I can recommend to you about China. I think they also covered the Chinese tech sector several times. It's called 'Drum Tower' and you should be able to find it on Apple Podcasts. But don't try to find it on a Chinese iPhone, I'm 100% certain it's censored there
I know you are joking but we need to reign p*** in. It’s far too accepting in society today it’s going to destroy us.