Other iPhone battery life scandal. Would you ever buy another iPhone again?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Appurushido, Dec 21, 2017.

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Apples throttling will..

  1. Make me change phone manufacturer

    41 vote(s)
    22.8%
  2. Annoy me but they still preferable to others

    74 vote(s)
    41.1%
  3. I don’t mind them tampering

    65 vote(s)
    36.1%
  1. Septembersrain Contributor

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    I've already started using android as my daily driver. This battery fiasco is just another annoying thing Apple chose to do. I was already pissed they gutted the Qualcomm modem models knowing Intel is inferior.

    I intend to keep my 7 Plus until it completely goes and I can't pay to fix it or it can't be fixed. I might buy another iPhone someday but they'd have to make it appealing to me.

    Which is highly unlikely.
     
  2. phpmaven macrumors 68040

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    Scandal? What scandal?
     
  3. umbrokhan macrumors member

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    Apple is facing so many lawsuits.
    just unbelievable how people find little faults, especially when they know its Apple.
    they been doing it for so many years, so its not something new.
    i see it every year. look at History. History repeats it self.
     
  4. Septembersrain Contributor

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    My old Note 3 has a 4 year old battery. It does not decrease performance. The battery life decreases exponentially, yes.

    This is an obvious progression to a battery beginning to decrease in efficiency. It would tell people they need to either deal, get a new battery, or buy a new phone.

    So throttling? Is it necessary? Could Apple not just give a pop up saying that the phone has a battery in need of service? Why do they throttle even before a warning in settings shows up about the battery needing to be serviced? We have low power mode available to us.

    To me, my opinion, this may be hiding a flaw that could cause the phones to shut down. Just like with the 6s but on a grander scale. A lawsuit doesn't surprise me.
     
  5. umbrokhan, Dec 23, 2017
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    umbrokhan macrumors member

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    i remember so many android phones that throttle they CPU with Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 CPU over heating.
    for example Nexus 6P, Sony Xperia Z3+ and Z4 also throttle the CPU. and few other android OEM.
    very poor battery life because of Qualcomm crap CPU. they lower the clock speed so they phone don't blow up. lagging all over the place.
    they sony phones couldn't even record 4K video with so much over heating.
    should check android History in year 2015.
    Unbox therapy forgot to do a bend test on Nexus 6P, but he made fun out of iPhone 6+ bend test.
    IT Just show's how android fan's are like when it comes to they own devices they ignore it.
     
  6. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    I’m quite annoyed and think it is wrong Apple are throttling phones, but I can’t be sure ill be switching brands.

    Will this tampering lead to you changing brands?
     
  7. chscag macrumors 68040

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    Nope. And I really don't care. I don't game or listen to music on my iPhone and how fast a phone do I need to make calls or take pictures? Get over it.
     
  8. adamhenry macrumors 68000

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    I would pick the third option but I disagree with the 'tampering' word. I don't mind the change they made.
     
  9. Superrjamz54 macrumors 6502

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    Would you rather have the phone turn off for no reason? This is how it happened on IOS 10 and below. They should have been more upfront about it though.
     
  10. Armand.Welsh macrumors newbie

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    Wouldnt it make more sense to always leave your phone on the charger when possible, like at the office, in the car, at home?

    I have a dock at work to charge my phone at my desk, I keep it charged in my car, and I have a few 10ft charging cables at home, if I am the couch, I charge my phone. Not because the battery needs it, but because I want my phones to last as long as possible. I pass my old phones down to members of my family. Every phone is passed down in like new condition, and they run for at least an extra 2 years after I hand them down. My batteries rarely go through a full cycle in one day. Typically it take 2 to 3 days to fully cycle the battery.

    I preach this practice to everyone.
     
  11. StarShot macrumors 6502a

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    My understanding is that it's mainly about batteries getting weak as they age. Slowing these phones down a tad supposedly make the batteries last a little longer. So what's wrong with that? That said, maybe Apple should give the people with older phones the option to not slow down IF they don't care about battery life.
     
  12. Armand.Welsh macrumors newbie

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    I dont think you understand the problem. They wont throttle you down based on age, they throttle you down based on battery wear. The throttling is not to preserve battery life, it is to prevent your phone from crashing. The throttling is to ensure that the cpus will never attempt to draw more current than the battery is capable of producing. The more degraded the battery, the slower the phone gets. Without the update, you will start running in to random reboots, and app crashes... and the fix in both cases is to replace the battery.
     
  13. Armand.Welsh macrumors newbie

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    According to the Apple Genius that replaced my 6s batteries under the recall, they expect the battery to be at 80% capacity after 2 years of use. That averages to many typical (non-gaming) users to be around 500 cycles. But they do not consider the battery bad unless it falls below 50% in two years. They can see your battery health at 11 months, and if degrading too fast, (it wont make it to 50% by end of year 2,) then they will replace it under warranty.
     
  14. Hal~9000, Dec 23, 2017
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    Hal~9000 macrumors 68020

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    I would have returned my 8+ if Apple hadn’t stated that it wasn’t yet affected (RIP iPhone 7’s on 11.2). I simply refuse to pay $900 for a product which already has software programmed to cripple its performance a year later.

    I’ll simply keep my 8+ on 11.1.2 for as long as I own it and see what the market options are available 4 - 6 years from now. If Apple is still doing this throttling nonsense by that point then I’ve got no issue taking my $$$ elsewhere.

    That’s a bull**** excuse that Apple is spewing to try and justify their shady behavior. There are posts of people on 1-year old iPhone 7’s reporting that there CPU performance is being crippled by 50% due to Apples new throttling virus “feature” when they have over 85% battery capacity left. There’s no way in hell that a 1-year old phone needs to be throttled like that, especially when Apple themselves state that their batteries should have up to 80% capacity (or more) left after 500 charge cycles.
     
  15. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    I have an iPhone 7, and I can’t believe that it’s just over a year since it was released and it’s exposed to the performance reduction. Very frustrating.

    I would revert to 11.2 if possible but I don’t think it is viable long term to avoid upgrading.

    As far as the phone turning off without explanation.. I have never heard or read about this happening. Was it such a big problem with so many phones that they have to do this with every old device. I could not be more skeptical of that
     
  16. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    https://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/20/iphone-6s-shutdown-repair-program/

    https://www.macrumors.com/2017/01/17/iphone-6-battery-exchange-program-rumor/
     
  17. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    I also don't care and this won't influence me at all. So many on here seem to feel violated, and that's their prerogative. But this doesn't phase me, Even though I'm somebody that upgrades annually. I don't see this being an issue to me, even though I think Apple could have been more forthcoming about the procedure.
     
  18. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    Well written post here. You broke it down into terms in exactly how it should be interpreted. Even if some don't agree with Apple and their throttling based on the battery, your post is exactly what they are trying to do.
     
  19. Vermifuge macrumors 68000

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    not sure what your point is. I'm saying 500 cycles is a well used battery, you should have it replaced any way.
     
  20. Jodiuh macrumors 6502

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    Had iPhone 6s Plus for 1.5 years. Brought battery down to 85% charge after over 500 charges, WELL within Apple expectations.

    Device felt just as fast, if not faster on iOS 11 than out of the box.

    Have you tried backing it up with encryption, resetting, then restoring?
    --- Post Merged, Dec 24, 2017 ---
    Fixed. :)
     
  21. Thor_1 macrumors 6502a

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    The iPhone 7 has already been slated to be degraded by iOS 11.2. It's only 15 months old.
     
  22. _Refurbished_, Dec 24, 2017
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    _Refurbished_ macrumors 68000

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    Most won’t experience throttling until past year two. I would be part of that group. For my usage, not much has changed with this news. Year three has always slowed down my phone, throttling or not.
     
  23. wcroadie macrumors member

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    It's annoying but probably not enough to make me switch
     
  24. Martyimac macrumors 68000

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    I doubt it will make me switch. But I am very interested in how  will respond to this.
     

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