Other iPhone battery life scandal. Would you ever buy another iPhone again?

Apples throttling will..

  • Make me change phone manufacturer

    Votes: 41 22.8%
  • Annoy me but they still preferable to others

    Votes: 74 41.1%
  • I don’t mind them tampering

    Votes: 65 36.1%

  • Total voters
    180

Stetch

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Nov 3, 2017
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They made it for a good reason. But ... made it wrong. But to answer the question: Yes I will absolutely buy iPhones in the future
 

BasicGreatGuy

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Sep 21, 2012
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In the middle of several books.
It's not a "scandal" at all. It's a totally acceptable solution to a difficult problem. I love my I devices and will continue to buy them. The whole thing is a lot of noise about nothing.
Succinct synopsis of the situation at hand.
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Not sure what is most shocking here - their greed, their arrogance or the apathy of their followers.
And yet, you have continued to buy their products for years. If you truly feel this way, why have you allowed yourself to be (supposedly) abused? That is the "shocking" question you should be asking yourself.
 
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cbreze

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Nov 26, 2014
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I have no plans to buy anything apple in the future. My iphone7 is shelved and will eventually get sold or traded. I realize Iphans hate Android but it works pretty sweet for me so no problem switching full time.
 

sean000

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Jul 16, 2015
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Not sure what is most shocking here - their greed, their arrogance or the apathy of their followers.
Actually what would be more shocking is a lot of people abandoning products they like over a knee jerk reaction to a complex situation. I seriously doubt Apple set out with a premeditated game plan of sabotaging older devices just so they could fleece consumers. They would rather you expand your iOS collection by adding an iPad or an Apple Watch instead of forcing you to upgrade. If you own only the iPhone, it is much easier for you to switch to Android.

Yes Apple handled this poorly by not communicating changes to customers at the time of implementation, but my iPhone 6 still works although the battery life has tanked in the last 6 to 12 months. My iPhone 6 honestly isn’t that slow. I’m upgrading to the X because I want an iPhone X, and three years is long enough for my 6. Even if Apple offered to replace my battery for free, I’d still upgrade. There are bigger issues in the world to be outraged over. I can only spend so much energy being outraged. Call that apathy if you want to, but being angry and outraged over first world problems is no way to go through life IMHO. If Apple keeps doing bad things, and I find their products to be increasingly frustrating, I will look elsewhere. But leaving Apple for Samsung or Google because you think those companies always have your best interests at heart is expecting a lot from any of these giant companies.
 

Martyimac

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Aug 19, 2009
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I probably will continue to buy iphones. BUT, I am to the point i am going to be more critical, less likely to update iOS as soon as it's released, and will keep a closer eye on  going down the road. I am starting to dislike that they are doing things like fixing what isn't broke, hiding critical issues (currently iOS slowing) and who knows what else.
 

UnifiedMelody

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Nov 17, 2017
204
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Australia
After Apple finally admitting to the iPhone battery scandal, what's your take on Apple? Would you still stick with them? Move on to other things? Refund your phone if you are withing the return window?

At this rate, there could me more things that aren't discovered yet, like Apple (possibly) bricking phones randomly, or other shenanigans that are Easter eggs in the making. My older iPhone 6+ felt so sluggish after the second year. None of my previous phones have ever done that (4 and 5). Guess Apple found a way (secretly) for you to spend more money with the company.

I'm at a loss. I recently bought a MacBook Pro as well. Now I'm worried. Product prices are rising fast, and seems like you can't go without AppleCare/AC+ (aside from the EU people) for any of their products. They have an iron grip on their fan base.
Wasn't really bothered to be honest i'm a heavy user and i charge quite often there's always the battery pack, 12w ipad brick and lightning cable next to me all the time and moving around if i ever need it.

I upgrade every two years since i'm on contract so im always having the newest smartphone [not the yearly program bullcrap haha i think not necessary imo, plus in australia they demand a freaking 100-150$ to get the "newest" phone... whereas in USA they get IUP WITH APPLECARE. so yea i think thats why im not upgrading yearly now.

wish australia had IUP but apparently some of 'us' love changing phones every year so they not giving us that option... i would jump in a heartbeat if they had IUP cos of applecare+ personally and dealing directly with apple [i hate dealing with carriers alone, u don't get that same amazing service apple gives despite apple also being able to setup otg in the store on plans]
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I probably will continue to buy iphones. BUT, I am to the point i am going to be more critical, less likely to update iOS as soon as it's released, and will keep a closer eye on  going down the road. I am starting to dislike that they are doing things like fixing what isn't broke, hiding critical issues (currently iOS slowing) and who knows what else.
from what I seen, iOS 11 did not really introduce much game changing features... iOS 10 was the best update with a lot of great changes and smoothest os [until i got the x] but because I have the X i had to deal with whatever i was given... but im fine with it its fast af.

eventually people WILL have to decide does the latest iOS updates [asides security bullcrap etc] offer them changing features that THEY need. if they dont need those new features then dont upgrade kinda simple. eg if animojis come out mainstream in ios12, not everyone will upgrade because its a gimmicky feature [well at least imo] so they will stay in ios11 [just an example.]
 

Resist

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Jan 15, 2008
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I've lost faith in Apple and this battery issue has pushed me over the edge. I most likely won't be getting an iPhone again. But none of this would have been an issue if the iPhone had a easily replaceable battery, like other phones.
 

xxray

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Jul 27, 2013
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Yes, my phones already always get slow after a couple years, before this happened. Getting slow is better than random shutdowns. My 7+ is a year old and is getting higher Geekbench scores than Geekbench has listed for the 7+ on their website, so I'm not really concerned. I still rather have an iPhone with iOS than an Android. What's making me want to stop buying iPhones more than anything else is the price increase.
 

Martyimac

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Aug 19, 2009
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I've lost faith in Apple and this battery issue has pushed me over the edge. I most likely won't be getting an iPhone again. But none of this would have been an issue if the iPhone had a easily replaceable battery, like other phones.
Please, what other smart phones have an easily replaceable battery/ I might have to consider one of them.
 

06tb06

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Sep 12, 2017
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I honestly don't use my iPhone that much. I occasionally call a family member or a friend, do a simple web search from time to time, and use Messages app. That's pretty much it. The installed apps are default from the factory. I recently upgraded to the 6S from the 6 Plus, my first iPhone. I remember a time before that where I went without any mobile phone, cellphone or smartphone, for about six months. I'm not the typical smartphone user.
 

geekiemac

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Feb 13, 2016
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After Apple finally admitting to the iPhone battery scandal, what's your take on Apple? Would you still stick with them? Move on to other things? Refund your phone if you are withing the return window?

At this rate, there could me more things that aren't discovered yet, like Apple (possibly) bricking phones randomly, or other shenanigans that are Easter eggs in the making. My older iPhone 6+ felt so sluggish after the second year. None of my previous phones have ever done that (4 and 5). Guess Apple found a way (secretly) for you to spend more money with the company.

I'm at a loss. I recently bought a MacBook Pro as well. Now I'm worried. Product prices are rising fast, and seems like you can't go without AppleCare/AC+ (aside from the EU people) for any of their products. They have an iron grip on their fan base.
Of course I would. And I will, in future. Because what Apple did, was good engineering, but very, very poor communication. Because of that, ordinary people who don't understand sh*t about technology and don't see past the headlines of mainstream media go on believing this is all an evil marketing scheme. :rolleyes: Which it's not. Of course Apple wants to sell phones but not at the cost of such a scandal and ensuing reputation loss.
 
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Martyimac

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I honestly don't use my iPhone that much. I occasionally call a family member or a friend, do a simple web search from time to time, and use Messages app. That's pretty much it. The installed apps are default from the factory. I recently upgraded to the 6S from the 6 Plus, my first iPhone. I remember a time before that where I went without any mobile phone, cellphone or smartphone, for about six months. I'm not the typical smartphone user.
Another kindred soul, you are not alone.
 

iosuser

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Mar 12, 2012
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The power management is also designed with an altruistic goal...keeping your iPhone alive. With the iPhone 4 There was no work around other than a different grip.

But okay, I can see how differing opinions of these events are possible.
I don't doubt that's Apple's intent, unfortunately many conspiracy theorists (many probably don't even own the affected products) will spin this the other way.

Apple provided free case for the 4 to get around the signal attenuation issue. I got a free bumper myself. I believe this throttling issue is a much bigger headache for Apple..
 
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06tb06

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Another kindred soul, you are not alone.
Yay! I'm not alone.

I think it all boils down to what you grew up with. I grew up in the late 1990s and early 2000s -- PC and Mac were my go-to computers for whatever I wanted to do. I work with a few teenagers who grew up during the iPhone/iPad era and I don't think some of them could go a single day without those devices.

I use my iMac WAY more than I use my iPhone. The traditional desktop machine is what I grew up with and I know the ins-and-outs far better than iPhone (or iOS for that matter). Before switching to Mac, I was a "Windows Wrangler" for about 15 years or more.
 

Thor_1

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Sep 18, 2016
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Apple should have been honest and up front. This is the issue and we have a solution. It could have been a simple toogle switch. Save battery life and phone will slow down some. If not, stop by for a battery replacement. By them hiding it, they were hoping people would purchase new devices.

Can't believe all the fanboys are justifying this.
 
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msandersen

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Jan 7, 2003
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Apple should have been honest and up front. This is the issue and we have a solution. It could have been a simple toogle switch. Save battery life and phone will slow down some. If not, stop by for a battery replacement. By them hiding it, they were hoping people would purchase new devices.

Can't believe all the fanboys are justifying this.
The issue was a fix for the sudden shutdown of 6/6s models as their batteries aged. They should have detailed in the update notes what it was doing to mitigate the shutdowns certainly, that doesn’t mean they weren’t honest. I think a warning in general settings would have been appreciated that the battery was getting old and not working optimally and would benefit from a replacement, and in the meantime the system would throttle the cpu during peak usage to avoid sudden shutdowns.
 

06tb06

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Sep 12, 2017
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Apple should have been honest and up front. This is the issue and we have a solution. It could have been a simple toogle switch. Save battery life and phone will slow down some. If not, stop by for a battery replacement. By them hiding it, they were hoping people would purchase new devices.

Can't believe all the fanboys are justifying this.
In your Signature I noticed you are running iOS 10.0.1. I'm sure this isn't the default iOS. I thought about downgrading to 10.2 today amid this whole throttling ordeal. I looked into Jailbreaking my iPhone, but the process looks daunting. I own a iPhone 6S.
 

Martyimac

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In your Signature I noticed you are running iOS 10.0.1. I'm sure this isn't the default iOS. I thought about downgrading to 10.2 today amid this whole throttling ordeal. I looked into Jailbreaking my iPhone, but the process looks daunting. I own a iPhone 6S.
I tried downgrading, today, to 10.3.3 but  isn't signing the ipsw file anymore, couldn't revert back. Sigh.
 

boltjames

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After Apple finally admitting to the iPhone battery scandal, what's your take on Apple? Would you still stick with them? Move on to other things? Refund your phone if you are withing the return window?
No.

Now I know that the reason for the slowdowns was due to a fading battery, so in the future I'll just replace the battery.

It's all good.