Apple is getting behind with ios 18 to Android. To not make it looks that they are, they start making announcements long before they deliver. A tactic Microsoft also used in the past.
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iPhone Design to Change 'Significantly' This Year
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Maybe they chose not to do it because building a thick phone is not exactly a popular option among customers…
I’m curious why so many people think these changes to the size/shape of the camera bump would be for purely cosmetic design change reasons. That might be one reason, but my guess is that the main or real reason is that Apple will be adding more camera elements, and/or increasing the size of the ones currently installed.
Many people say they want a thicker iPhone so it’ll have more room for a bigger battery, and to absorb the camera bump to achieve a flat back. So as long as we’re speculating, maybe Apple has listened, and the rumored wider and taller camera bump on the rear of at least one 17 Pro model may be part of a gradual expansion in the overall thickness of that model, so that in coming years that big camera bump will start expanding south, and eventually cover the entire back of that particular iPhone model, giving people both a flat back with no camera bump, and a bigger battery.
But the rumor render that Prosser posted is odd, in that it shows the camera rings projecting from the top of the larger bump:
...rather than projecting lower down directly from the back of the iPhone, with the top surface of these rings flush with the top of the bump, as is the case with the current iPhones. If Prosser's render is to be the actual design, it implies that Apple would be adding a heck of a lot of extra camera hardware inside the iPhone's housing and/or its new big annex. Maybe this will be on only the Pro Max.
But the rumor render that Prosser posted is odd, in that it shows the camera rings projecting from the top of the larger bump:
...rather than projecting lower down directly from the back of the iPhone, with the top surface of these rings flush with the top of the bump, as is the case with the current iPhones. If Prosser's render is to be the actual design, it implies that Apple would be adding a heck of a lot of extra camera hardware inside the iPhone's housing and/or its new big annex. Maybe this will be on only the Pro Max.
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Many people are saying that iPhones are too heavy now and we want lighter phones.
I could do without multiple lenses. I have no need to take a photo every other second of my life. I am quite tired of walking around with a dumbbell plate in my pocket.
Folks are seemingly forgetting the core Apple strategy when it comes to iphone designs, changing the camera layout makes it noticeable what model you have. They've forgotten that the past few years but since the iphone remains about the style over function, that's one way of fooling people into upgrading.
The new SE coming supposedly this week might be of interest to you then.
I think it has run its course. I getting off the idiotic merrygoround of style/status over function.
The last iPhone I really liked was the iPhone SE. Unfortunally I never did get an iPhone 13 mini.
My next mobile will be reasonably priced, covering features such as long battery, low weight and thin. Camera features are not important.
The last iPhone I really liked was the iPhone SE. Unfortunally I never did get an iPhone 13 mini.
My next mobile will be reasonably priced, covering features such as long battery, low weight and thin. Camera features are not important.
Yes, but many people are saying literally everything that can be said about their desired iPhone designs. If my "prediction" about a thicker iPhone comes true, Apple would likely still keep the upcoming Air, and maybe a model as thick as we currently have, though that would expand the number of models beyond what Apple probably wants.
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iPhone camera tumors have been getting bigger every year since the iPhone 6 so how is an even bigger tumor a major redesign, lol
Spoon, Brick, Umbrella ... all so much less complex
Even within those categories, there is a HUGE range of variation on size, shape and details actually
QWERTY keyboards - REALLY bad example ... The key layout even isn't exactly the same on spacing and width of some keys .. and people LOVE .. I mean LOVE different keyboard designs, thicknesses, keycaps, shapes, colors, on and on and on
I don't know if you could have picked a worse tech example than keyboards actually
The shape and size and keycaps, and keyshape and key travel -- nearly ALL the specs are constantly being changed and iterated on. There are subcultures about this!
The layout of where the exact keys are is but one of so many factors there.
It's a great example making the opposite of your point ... and shows just how much one can do to have optionality and change around a basic layout
Agree completely
I never use the wide lens on my 13 Mini as the output is gimmicky to me
This “design change” is clearly bc the new camera lenses will be so obscenely large on the Pros, that keeping a square camera bump would take up 2/3rds or more of the back of the 6.3” iPhone. The only way to make it not look ridiculous and disproportionate is to extend the camera bump all the way across the top in order to provide some symmetry.
Lol, man. What happened to real design at Apple?
Remember that beautiful black iPhone 4 design? It was beautiful. Make the phone look exactly like that again, just in the bigger sizes.
Remember the MacBook Air from 2010? It was insanely thin and looked really nice. Just make that design again with the borderless display and an upgraded camera.
Remember that beautiful black iPhone 4 design? It was beautiful. Make the phone look exactly like that again, just in the bigger sizes.
Remember the MacBook Air from 2010? It was insanely thin and looked really nice. Just make that design again with the borderless display and an upgraded camera.
I don’t think so. They said, “You can’t trust Apple with the word „biggest“ or „significant“.”
They may be conflating official comments and rumors.
The iPhone’s design has been stale for a while now. This is a big part of why I bought the iPhone 15 Pro and was thrilled that Apple Intelligence came to it in addition to the iPhone 16. 2025 was shaping up to be a good year to upgrade for me and during the upgrade process to go from 128 GB of storage to 256 GB. I want my entire music library plus a few movies on my iPhone’s local storage for when I’m traveling and stuck on a plane, stuck somewhere without good internet access or out on the boat not wanting to waste battery life by streaming music.
I figured if we had any hope of seeing design changes above and beyond iterative things like slightly more screen space or a slightly smaller notch, a small change in camera placement, etc. then it was either going to come in the 17 or we’d get nothing of consequence until the iPhone 20.
I still believe we’ll get the next big overhaul in 2027 for the iPhone 20 or whatever they’ll call it but there needs to be something more than Apple Intelligence or small design tweaks to get a 15 Pro or beyond user to upgrade. Some more than minor design changes would be nice. I can’t see me deciding to ho with fewer features or worse specs to move to a 17 Air.
This spring / summer / fall will be interesting.
I figured if we had any hope of seeing design changes above and beyond iterative things like slightly more screen space or a slightly smaller notch, a small change in camera placement, etc. then it was either going to come in the 17 or we’d get nothing of consequence until the iPhone 20.
I still believe we’ll get the next big overhaul in 2027 for the iPhone 20 or whatever they’ll call it but there needs to be something more than Apple Intelligence or small design tweaks to get a 15 Pro or beyond user to upgrade. Some more than minor design changes would be nice. I can’t see me deciding to ho with fewer features or worse specs to move to a 17 Air.
This spring / summer / fall will be interesting.
Get ridnof the damn bezels already Apple! You’ve been suckering us with “bezelless” phones for a decade now. Is it really all screen bezelless? Nope!
Why would they do that when they can sucker you with the current models? They are reserving that for 2035!
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Those same designers made the wedge MBair, the wedge iMac, the "top heavy" trackpad, the curved bottom MBpro, a "magic" mouse with the charging port on the bottom, etc.
A wedge phone concept is trying to set up a win:win. Many customers would like flush cameras as they once were in iPhones. Apple wants "thinner" for 5 minutes of marketing "oooooooh, ahhhhhh" at the big reveal. So much like that MBair, iMac, MBpro, they can have an end for "thinnest ever" and flush mount the cameras at the other end of the wedge. Apple marketing bragged about the thin edges of both that iMac and that MBpro even though the taper led to the thicker part that needed to be thicker to hold the tech guts. They could do that same kind of thinner spin again. Bonus: no more wobble complaints either.
I suspect many would be happy with thickening the overall phone to flush mount the cameras and filling the space with more battery... but the usual defenders then attack that idea like it would be far too thick and that would be the great gripes that follow... seemingly forgetting that when Apple offered just such a phone...
...there were no mass gripes about that one being "too thick." In fact, that was one of the most loved case designs in iPhone history.
I suspect the actual problem with doing this is that "more battery" to fill the space might cost Apple an additional 80¢ or so per unit and why add cost to iPhones when even this segment wanting it might grumble... but then buy whatever they roll out anyway. If anything, thin it more, CUT battery and save another few nickels in support of "another record quarter" dominating goals. 💰💰💰
Eventually, they'll probably just eject all of the battery and cameras to an add-on case so they can really maximize "thinnest" spin, sell what's left for the "same great price" but every purchase will need the fat & lucrative upsell of small-medium-large battery cases with good-better-best camera options as add-ons. 💰💰💰
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You know the outer screen on folding phones has no crease still, so you don’t lose anything. The outer screen is still nice gorilla glass like you’re used to
You just gain a large inner screen (with a crease) and some weight
I really enjoy my Galaxy Fold, but man do I wish it was running iOS, I’d buy a folding iPhone in a second
edit: What I wouldn’t be thrilled about is a Flip equivalent iPhone, where the main screen has a crease. Not sure how I’d feel about that, it doesn’t really add much to the experience
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