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iPhone Details: 5 Years on AT&T, Verizon's Answer?
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It's not going to be sold with a 5 year contract, what they mean is that AT&T have it exclusivly for 5 years.Unless the phone comes onto a pay-as-you-go tariff in the UK then no sale here.
A contract I might settle for, but no phone is worth a 5 year contract. 18 months maximum.
Sorry Apple, i'm not biting this time.
Why would it? That 5-year deal isn't an exclusive Rev A iPhone, it means that all the updates and revisions of the iPhone for the next 5 years will be through Cingular (in the US). I don't think it'll be long before Apple bumps it to a 3G here in the US, and certainly by the time it's available in Europe it'll be 3G as well (especially considering the market over there demands that technology).
I have to agree... on one hand, I'm upset that the iPhone isn't going to be on Verizon's network, since they have an amazingly reliable and fast network; yet I'm totally relieved that the iPhone's not going with Verizon since they feel the need to cripple everything that comes with a phone... they disable bluetooth unless you pay for it, their menus are horrible, everything has that horrible red color scheme... basically it slows down every phone they sell...
I'm excited to see how Apple and AT&T work together... I'm hoping there won't be any extraneous AT&T branding on the iPhone. Imagine a phone sold the same way it was produced... it may actually work fast and efficiently!
If you don't think there is a cultlike following to Apple products, then you are VERY dense.
I am amazed at the generalizations--
Mmmm.... "Never use ATT because the service sucks." I guess that is why they tie for number one! GSM sucks 'cause it drops out going into buildings. Well, I have used just about every known system in Australia, Europe and parts of Asia- and no carrier has achieved great reception all the time.
My GSM Motorola v500, used in OZ, the UK and the US had by far the best reception but another carrier's GSM phone (Nokia 6300 triband) was nowhere near as good in OZ and the UK. I think the particular phone and system are the keys.
My current Razr (3G-- is pretty bad, losing signal very quickly in the suburbs)- and it is with ATT, but T-mobile in the same areas was worse. Current usage area is Newport Beach, CA to LA proper.
I think that the "I won't use..." 'cause "such and such sucks" is pretty puerile. Anyway, no skin off Apple's or ATT's noses. They are going to have to gallop full speed right out of the gate. You don't have to be in the race, mates, the field is already crowded.
Mmmm.... "Never use ATT because the service sucks." I guess that is why they tie for number one! GSM sucks 'cause it drops out going into buildings. Well, I have used just about every known system in Australia, Europe and parts of Asia- and no carrier has achieved great reception all the time.
My GSM Motorola v500, used in OZ, the UK and the US had by far the best reception but another carrier's GSM phone (Nokia 6300 triband) was nowhere near as good in OZ and the UK. I think the particular phone and system are the keys.
My current Razr (3G-- is pretty bad, losing signal very quickly in the suburbs)- and it is with ATT, but T-mobile in the same areas was worse. Current usage area is Newport Beach, CA to LA proper.
I think that the "I won't use..." 'cause "such and such sucks" is pretty puerile. Anyway, no skin off Apple's or ATT's noses. They are going to have to gallop full speed right out of the gate. You don't have to be in the race, mates, the field is already crowded.
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Like the prior observer notes, that is silly. The cult thing is absurd but if you think admiration for a better than usual performance compared the rest of the crowd is cultlike, then your definition of cult is fine by me, even if inaccurate by dictionary definitions.
The fact that Apple gets so many industry awards, rated by experts, should make you think before offering your hardly comparable 2 bits worth.
There is however a strong anti-Mac cult. Are you one of the floundering, er.. founding members?
Like the prior observer notes, that is silly. The cult thing is absurd but if you think admiration for a better than usual performance compared the rest of the crowd is cultlike, then your definition of cult is fine by me, even if inaccurate by dictionary definitions.
The fact that Apple gets so many industry awards, rated by experts, should make you think before offering your hardly comparable 2 bits worth.
There is however a strong anti-Mac cult. Are you one of the floundering, er.. founding members?
The "iPhone killers" will be rolling out for years to come. Just like the "iPod killers." Some might even be as thin and light as the iPhone (compared to the usual bricklike smartphones) but they won't have Apple ease-of-use, iTunes integration, or multitouch.
And they won't have Apple's mindshare. Every time one of them comes out, the articles and reviews will also mention iPhone. Free press for Apple every time a competitor is mentioned! Must be nice
I do want to see 3G speeds come to iPhone--and Apple has already announced that this is coming. I don't so much care about CDMA specifically though.
I agree! Dollar short and a day late. Let them come! Welcome the competition as it just makes Apple better!
Agreed. I understand some areas aren't the best for some networks, but to say that Cingular sucks in general is a one-sided argument. For me (and for MANY MANY others), Cingular's service has been top-notch. I very rarely do not have signal, nor do I get calls dropped. I've also found the sales rep/customer service to be great as well. Heck, they even let us (we're on a family plan) downgrade our service when we realized we'd stopped using so many minutes or certain services - all without penalty.
This could hurt Apples iPhone hopes. What if at&t doesn't live up to their end of the deal and service blows. Having to stick out 5 years with a bad provider will ruin any momentum the iPhone has going for it.
I bet this contract has a way out for both parties.
I bet this contract has a way out for both parties.
As someone who has Verizon, and hates them... I can't believe I'm about to stick up for them... but here goes nothing.
ATT ties for number one? Cite your source, buddy... as far as network goes, Consumer Reports constantly rates Verizon above ATT/Cingular. I think Alltel even got higher marks than ATT/Cingular. That would make them third.
Keep in mind, I'm talking about the network, not overall. But really, if you don't have a strong network then whats the point anyway right?
That's nice to hear!
I'm for sure one of many who would love a 3G version of the Iphone...Oooh. Oops, my mistake
Tying it to a single service providor is still going to hurt sales though. And i'm stubbornly refusing to change provider just to get a phone they have
Why would I be such a long-term member of a Mac forum if I was anti-mac?
And I'm sorry, but although I agree that Apple is often at the top, there IS a cult-like following.. oftentimes MANY (myself included) excuse Apple's shortcomings "just cause".. we find ourselves excusing blatant mistakes or oversights, where we would normally accost another.
Take, for example, the QC problems of the MB, the RAM and HD prices via Apple (even moreso in the past), the lack of a fuller lineup, the cost of their displays, the cost versus specs of the mini, the Leopard delay (Vista, what?)... it goes on and on. Every company has these, but somehow Apple's followers (again, myself included), overlook these and just accept them - and just continue tying ourselves to our computers and looking for rumors about what's around the next corner.
It's cult-like.. and has ALWAYS been a factor of Apple.
I'm glad its been great for you. Spend some time in FL and you will change your mind pretty quick.
For me it comes down to this....
iPhone- I love it so much.....I want one now
Cingular/at&t - I think I can do without an iPhone
The iPhone is going to be awesome.... as long as you dont need to connect to anything. (At least in my area)
I'm just not impressed with the whole "iPhone" anymore. I seriously doubt I will get the first editions now. I want to wait a bit and see where it goes.
Like I said, I know that Cingular isn't great everywhere (although I've never had a problem anywhere I've gone), but I'm just so sick of hearing that "Cingular sucks all over" - because it doesn't... not by a long shot.
In the US, they can not produce anything except what will work on AT&T's network.
God, if they created one for Nextel I would have to throw up. Nextel has some of the worst phones on earth.
My Verizon contract ends a few days before the iPhone is released.
Sucks that I won't be able to get my deposit for 30 days after, but its a $1000 deposit.
April 19, 2006, 1:03 PM PDT
Cingular soars, Moto's market share rises
Posted by: Kent German
Cingular said today it added 1.7 million subscribers in the first quarter of 2006, boosting the carrier's total customers to 55.8 million. Cingular also said it has reduced subscriber churn to an all-time low of 1.9 percent. On the financial front, the nation's largest carrier reported good news as well. For the first quarter of this year, revenues were $9 billion, an improvement of 9.1 percent since the first quarter of 2005.
So, you can't read, either? And, while it is not the latest data, unless you want to be a cultist anti-mac person and split already split hairs, these numbers are reasonable. Yeah??