Well then don't buy it if its not what you want - however I do not want or need GPS, and I don't want to pay for a feature thats expensive and not useful for me - so an add on makes sense from a marketing stand point to me.
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Well then don't buy it if its not what you want - however I do not want or need GPS, and I don't want to pay for a feature thats expensive and not useful for me - so an add on makes sense from a marketing stand point to me.
Expensive?
The Kaiser will cost less than the iPhone.
And have more features.
Hmmm...
The term has certainly been misused by the technically naive news media and bloggers (and consequently by lots of people) as a phrase for the iPhone's gesture-enhanced UI.
Gesture-UI researchers must be spinning in their graves.
The term has certainly been misused by the technically naive news media and bloggers (and consequently by lots of people) as a phrase for the iPhone's gesture-enhanced UI.
Gesture-UI researchers must be spinning in their graves.
Allthough Multi-Touch is a very cool technology, I certainly can't see it having much use on a small surface like a phones screen.
I wan not comparing it to that phone. So how much more would it cost to add GPS to the iPhone?
SMS revenues? That's part of the problem! You're viewing this through the antiquated lense.
SMS is just data. A limited and inconvenient form of data that as far as the network is concerned is the same as every other piece of data on the network, but because you've had 10 years to use it, you think it's convenient, and because the networks have had 10 years to bilk you for it, they think it's a profit center.
I'm sorry, but it's just data. Artificially pricing different for it to make more off the customers doesn't change that. It isn't magic binary.
Email isn't limited by the char limits. Email isn't charged per email because they haven't buffaloed customers into thinking it somehow has to be so.
Flatten the pricing and remove the limitations and what have you got? Email.
SMS is on the iPhone as a handy way of getting instant messages piped over an AIM gateway. Use it in the legacy manner, but it's the newer means that most people I know will be using it for.
And no computer will ever need more than 640k.
See, I'm not predicting the future, I'm looking at the dead technologies that don't know their time is up. You've got a better crystal ball than I do.
Plus, one of the attractions of SMS is it's non-intrusive 'answer when you're ready' nature. I don't think the more chat-orientated nature of IM has the same widespread appeal.
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Actually, chat, IM, etc. are all 'answer when you're ready.'
Once the data-plan prices come down here though, I'm sure IM will have it's day. But SMS has a LOT of life in it yet!
As a vehicle for IM. Email replaces MMS.
As the poster said, untill data prices come down, the chepaest way to get a mesage to someone is in fact SMS.
I pay $10/10MB of data up here.
Email tends to have a bunch of header info attached to it, using up data.
Also, I don't need someones email address to get them a message right away. I can simply SMS them at their phone. And know they'll get it right away.
Unless the person on the other end is using a push service or similar, they won't get the message untill they check they're email.
Anti-iPhone Marketing campain is on.
I personally believe that a number of anti-iPhone marketing types from competing companies have registered on MacRumers and other Apple centric sites in a organized campaign to do all they can to discredit and bash the iPhone.
I personally believe that a number of anti-iPhone marketing types from competing companies have registered on MacRumers and other Apple centric sites in a organized campaign to do all they can to discredit and bash the iPhone.
Actually, heheh...the onscreen keys are part of the multitouch technology.
Read the patent; there is so much more going on there than people realize. The touchscreen does not work like a Nintendo DS, POS register, or anything else.
Apple (and as a dev, this is something that irritates me to no end) often "dumbs down" things in the "marketing" presentation. Most people thing multitouch is the "pinch" thing.
The patent goes into much more detail about how the technology works, but you can't really show that as a "feature".
The keyboard "knows" what keys you mean to press based on the hardware , location, pressure, amount of skin contact, etc.
Thet've spent more time on that part of the phone than any other.
I'm starting to think you need...
...a girlfriend, or more porn...or...SOMETHING...as all of your posts are about why you aren't getting an iPhone.
So...what is your point...exactly? You aren't geting an iPhone? I think...that's been established
I have a phone running WM6...and its not what it does that makes it horrid, its HOW IT DOES what it does that makes it horrid. I don't care how many half-backed "features" something has...it doesn't make them any less half-baked.
Its the difference between wanting first in and sloppy seconds, son, and before you call ME a "highschooler" Its been a LONG time since high school for me.
...a girlfriend, or more porn...or...SOMETHING...as all of your posts are about why you aren't getting an iPhone.
So...what is your point...exactly? You aren't geting an iPhone? I think...that's been established
I have a phone running WM6...and its not what it does that makes it horrid, its HOW IT DOES what it does that makes it horrid. I don't care how many half-backed "features" something has...it doesn't make them any less half-baked.
Its the difference between wanting first in and sloppy seconds, son, and before you call ME a "highschooler" Its been a LONG time since high school for me.
And I personally believe that you are clinically insane. The iPhone is getting bashed because it is like Paris Hilton, nothing really special, but in your face everywhere you go.
And for whoever was trying to say that SMS is outdated tech and Apple is going to "floppy drive" it or whatever other delusional thought, they are as insane as paja.
Worldwide SMS is more potent than phoning people. This will not change anytime soon.
I wouldn't go THAT far, but it is certainly a feature that I know many, many people use many time per day.
Good thing the iPhone supports that.
Its MMS that's the issue
Saw this on digg...nice piece of history...
...from this site, no less.
Good thing no one listens to these guys:
https://www.macrumors.com/2001/10/23/apples-new-thing-ipod/
...from this site, no less.
Good thing no one listens to these guys:
https://www.macrumors.com/2001/10/23/apples-new-thing-ipod/
You don't have to believe me. It's cool.
I just like to lie to get attention. My friend does to.
I thought so, it's ok though. All will be revealed in due time. More specifically on June 29th, 2007 right around 10am. (at least for me)
I mentioned my idea a few pages ago, though it seems to have been lost in the midst of more high brow debates:
Apple's description of photocasting:
"Introducing Photocasting. Now it's easy to share your photos with friends and family thousands of miles away. At full resolution. Automatically."
This seems like a much more appealing proposition than prefixing phone numbers to email addreses, or using IM etc to get around the weaknesses of no MMS.
The simple idea that you can share your photos with everyone is what Flickr and Facebook do well. For 'private' messages, you could set photo privilages to somehow only show photos to individuals or groups. This approach would take the photo experience into the browser, or even through RSS in the email client, allowing integration with the 'iphoto' app that we will probably see. i.e. you will be able to easily add photos to your photo collection, and sync back to the mac etc. could also be integrated into the MMS tech somehow. I dunno. it's a thought.
In terms of 'disrupting' the market, this could create another 'podcast' style phenomemon.
May also explain why it's a hidden feature as yet.
My apologies if someone already mentioned this, I haven't caught up yet. But the last time I flew I was allowed to use my cell after take-off, so as long as you shut off or put in airplane mode at landing. I flew on a least two major airlines and they allowed cell phones use after take-off and I'm sure I didn't get the captains message incorrectly.
BTW, I'm almost sure the keynote mentioned it has an airplane mode.
And no IM client stinks for me, seriously! I'm sure there are ways around it but there not sticking to "ease of use UI" methodology by excluding this. Big bummer!
Most of my friends use MMS and not read emails frequently. I think I will wait till they have this available, seriously.
That would be an interesting way to implement the lack of MMS in the iPhone, it would be kinda cool too. I just wish it was easier for people to understand how photocasts work now. I've tried to explain it to several friends who wanted to check out my flickr, but unless you watch keynotes and such, most people I know don't know much about it or how to use it. For it to work with the iPhone it would have to a very simple process to set up or some people would be lost in figuring it out.
Couldn't agree more. I use flickr and facebook, and it's a nightmare explaining how RSS can help people keep up with my photos. That said, Facebook has got it spot on, with its home feed. I think Facebook works because it's linked with 'something else', i.e. the community concept. Flickr is a bit isolated.
Link photocasting with the iPhone, and you could see the iPhone doing for photocasting what the iPod did for so called podcast media
Even more broadly, creating an intuitive RSS engine, with text style alerts and simple interactions, could allow you to apply this idea to other areas too, like facebook, flickr, blogs etc...
Anyway, I think Steve Jobs was quoted as saying the photo app on iPhone was 'the best photo app ever' or something like that. Makes you think they have something else up their sleeve here.
Revenues, as an indicator of usage. If I had the number for the billions of SMS messages sent each year, I'd have posted that instead.
Sure, the problem with SMS is the pricing. The character limit makes little difference, as most phones now merge long messages seamlessly. From a user's perspective, if the pricing is the same, the 'magical' back end stuff is irrelevant. As long as the message gets there.
And judging by SMS's growth rate, the average user doesn't seem too worried about the price.
In this case, it has nothing to do with old or new technologies, but with human nature. People don't want to communicate with 10% of their friends & acquaintances, or 50% of them. That's why a simple technology that lets you communicate with all of your friends with phones will win out over a richer technology which only a subset use.
This interoperability is key.
It depends a lot on subtle cues in the UI. If the chat window stays open (as it does in - say - Skype) the user feels pressurised into giving an immediate response, and they don't like that.
You could of course implement an IM that looked and felt identical to SMS, but I don't think Apple are likely to go in that direction.
Of course, there are other issues - one problem with receiving mail on my phone (as I've found out the hard way) is the amount of spam I receive. Sure, spam filters could help, but you still have to download all the headers which is wasting bandwidth on a slow and expensive connection.