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iPhone Details from AT&T's Sales Training Workbook

RnSK said:
Its not "revolutionary" based on what you *can't* do...that's a measure of features :)

Its what and how it does what it does that does it.
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Right. Nice spin.
There's really nothing it does, that other phones don't do.
Just various things it doesn't do, that other phones do.
There are numerous Phones that do the touchscreen thing IE the samsung
samsung f700.

BTW, not having GPS and navigation options is a really big one, IMO.
For example, I'm going to LA the end of the month, and have a ton of trips planned.
I'll be using my phone as a GPS routeplanner, as I have a ton of meetings.
I have all of the locations preprogrammed in my GPS programme.
And if I want to check the status of the traffic I can use the built-in Windows live function.

Yeas, I know, all very borin stuff. But invaluable to me, or other people that tend to travel outside of their little world.
The "revolutionary" implemenattaion of Apples touchscreen will be of no added benefit to me at all.
 
henchman said:
Right. Nice spin.
There's really nothing it does, that other phones don't do.
Just various things it doesn't do, that other phones do.
There are numerous Phones that do the touchscreen thing IE the samsung
samsung f700.

BTW, not having GPS and navigation options is a really big one, IMO.
For example, I'm going to LA the end of the month, and have a ton of trips planned.
I'll be using my phone as a GPS routeplanner, as I have a ton of meetings.
I have all of the locations preprogrammed in my GPS programme.
And if I want to check the status of the traffic I can use the built-in Windows live function.

Yeas, I know, all very borin stuff. But invaluable to me, or other people that tend to travel outside of their little world.
The "revolutionary" implemenattaion of Apples touchscreen will be of no added benefit to me at all.
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Pray tell, do they do multitouch? Are their touchscreens anywhere near as sensitive as the iPhone's? Then it's hardly a bloody replacement then, is it!

Traffic, directions, etc. all work on the iPhone. And, though there isn't GPS, no one has proven (yet) that the phone can not locate where you are.

Everything has pros and cons. The iPhone has plenty of features other phones don't. Other phones have some features the iPhone doesn't. Tell me, does your phone have an iPod? (A real one?) No, it can't. Tell me, does your phone have a full-fledged web browser? Not likely. Does the iPhone have 3G? No.

But, I agree that the iPhone may not be appropriate for you. Those, however, are the key words. For you.

For me, the current iPhone would not be quite appropriate either. I'll hold out for the 3G version. However, it is perfect for another person I know, as she probably wouldn't benefit very much from 3G anyway.
 
Why is it that everyone is getting so excited about multi-touch? Do the ads even feature it, everyone I've seen takes input data from a single point.
 
Padraig said:
Why is it that everyone is getting so excited about multi-touch? Do the ads even feature it, everyone I've seen takes input data from a single point.
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The ads cover what the iPhone is supposed to be known for:

Making a call
Being a iPod
Being a internet communication device.
 
Padraig said:
So why are people touting it as this revolutionary feature? The phone seems like it would operate fine without it.
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I don't know why they wouldn't bring it up in the commercials. But remember, there are probably more commercials to come. Theres still over 2 weeks till release. Apple more than likely just wants the basics out.


It is odd yes, because Steve went over it heavily in his keynote. So who knows. I think it's a awesome feature still.
 
CoreWeb said:
Pray tell, do they do multitouch? Are their touchscreens anywhere near as sensitive as the iPhone's? Then it's hardly a bloody replacement then, is it!

Traffic, directions, etc. all work on the iPhone. And, though there isn't GPS, no one has proven (yet) that the phone can not locate where you are.

Everything has pros and cons. The iPhone has plenty of features other phones don't. Other phones have some features the iPhone doesn't. Tell me, does your phone have an iPod? (A real one?) No, it can't. Tell me, does your phone have a full-fledged web browser? Not likely. Does the iPhone have 3G? No.

But, I agree that the iPhone may not be appropriate for you. Those, however, are the key words. For you.
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How sensitive doe sit need to be?

Saying it's revolutionary is like me saying it's not, because it doens't have a Zune built in to it.
It's an MP3 player Big Effin Deal.

Define Fullfledged browser.
I have Opera running o my phone. (not to be confused with opera mini).
It's as fullfledged as a browser can be.
 
surferfromuk said:
4: GPS - ok sure I'd have liked it but Google Maps - well let's face it generally YOU know where you are or can find out and so this is still pretty cool. It's at least as useful as it is on your home computer.
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Read one of my previous posts.
For you highschool kids that never leave your 10 mile radius from home, yeah. Not a big deal.
But for people who actually travel, it's a very very cool feature.
Right now, I use a small bluetooth GPS device with my current phone.
My next phone will HAVE to have GPS built-in.
And with the added advantage of Google-live or Windows Live, you can check traffic situations, and avoid bad traffic.

To me, having a built-in navigation system is way more important than having a phone that plays music and video.
 
henchman said:
Making calls.
Playing MP's
Internet access.

Hmmm, not very revolutionary.
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That's the beginning point of this product.


There are also many other features (MANY) other features that the iPhone has.


Last i checked any RAZR could make a call, play MP3's, and get on the internet. Was it amazing in all 3 categories? Not really.


Your also talking about a product that hasn't even been released yet, nor the official details have been released yet. Right now we are learning what the iPhone can and can't do from a training book.
 
Padraig said:
Why is it that everyone is getting so excited about multi-touch? Do the ads even feature it, everyone I've seen takes input data from a single point.
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Multi-touch seems to be Apple's 'catch all' phrase for gesture-based, touch screen input (the only feature I can think of the iPhone uses two inputs is in picture zooming).

While the adverts don't show any input involving two fingers , they do show the simplicity and speed of the gesture input.
 
vmarks said:
MMS and SMS are legacy. They're ancient, and not the way forward. That SMS exists on the iPhone is a way bring iChat to the phone while making the AOL/AIM gateway do the work rather than the client.
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MMS may go the way of the dodo, I don't know.

But SMS usage is going through the roof, it's certainly not 'legacy'. A recent UK report showed call revenues from the networks decreased for the first time recently, while SMS revenues are up and up. If anything is legacy, it's voice-calling!

No form of IM is going to replace SMS until the IM-on-phone user base achieves a critical mass, which include your grandfather, your young niece, your technophobe aunt etc..etc.. SMS messages reach everyone with a recent phone, IM still only reach a small subset.

Plus, one of the attractions of SMS is it's non-intrusive 'answer when you're ready' nature. I don't think the more chat-orientated nature of IM has the same widespread appeal.

Once the data-plan prices come down here though, I'm sure IM will have it's day. But SMS has a LOT of life in it yet! ;)
 
whooleytoo said:
MMS may go the way of the dodo, I don't know.

But SMS usage is going through the roof, it's certainly not 'legacy'. A recent UK report showed call revenues from the networks decreased for the first time recently, while SMS revenues are up and up. If anything is legacy, it's voice-calling!

No form of IM is going to replace SMS until the IM-on-phone user base achieves a critical mass, which include your grandfather, your young niece, your technophobe aunt etc..etc.. SMS messages reach everyone with a recent phone, IM still only reach a small subset.

Plus, one of the attractions of SMS is it's non-intrusive 'answer when you're ready' nature. I don't think the more chat-orientated nature of IM has the same widespread appeal.

Once the data-plan prices come down here though, I'm sure IM will have it's day. But SMS has a LOT of life in it yet! ;)
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But you forget.
Since the Jobs allmighty has declared them ancient and "legacy" it must be so.
 
- iPhone will not support the TeleNav solutions currently offered by other AT&T devices
- GPS is not part of the iPhone feature set
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Feature set? Intresting wording.

here is my guess-

Apple will sell a GPS add on that interfaces with google maps

Also Apple will sell (al game's in iTunes) small apps that do the functions that are "missing." [MMS etc]

The iPod makes a ton of money with add ons. Not every one wants an FM radio for their iPod, not everyone wants GPS for their iPhone - why make everyone pay for stuff they dont want when you can create an after market for your own hardware? :eek:
 
FreeState said:
Apple will sell a GPS add on that interfaces with google maps
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So completely NOT revolutionary.
I've had that with my original windows phone.
The poit is to not have a gaillion extra bluetooth devices to tote around.

As I said, the next phone I get, GPS and a slide out keybaord is a must.
It will be most liekly the HTC Kaiser unless somethign better comes along. And quite frankly, the Iphone, sofar isn't it.
 
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