I’m in one of the states that has it. I think for wider adoption it need to be excepted in more places and not just airports. I mean bars, liquor stores, the DMV, being stopped by the police.
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How does this work on the backend? More specifically, is this a proprietary solution that only works with Apple devices? I'm not convinced the public sector should ever roll out an ID system that only works with one manufacturer.
So it's not a matter of population but rather whole country organization and its legislative fragmentation. Makes sense — it quite big. It is strange though that thinks like Apple pay are less popular in US than in other countries.. but that a different topic than „virtual ID’s / Driver license”
I'm not sure how the digital ID works, but Ill take a guess at its scan-ability. If Micro Center is anything to go by and their ability to scan my coupon its going to be a while. Many other places are the same. First its make it max brightness then its zoom in then zoom out etc. Finally they just read the bar code number and put it in manually. 🤣
If you are asked for ID by cops, whether you get pulled over or elsewhere, they are going to have to implement a protocol for taking someones phone to see their ID.
Why would you do that. Nobody wants to touch your phone or even look at your phone. Just scan your phone over the reader like you do for payments, no difference.
The plastic card in many cases does not require you to check anything with a backend system, nor are most interactions logged. The authenticity of the card is the entire verification.
If you scaled your system beyond a voluntary program to facilitate entry into the US, you'd need a global biometric database so people could travel. Is that really the world you want?
Because in many ways the US is really like 50 smaller countries with their own bureaucracies and politics.
Look at it this way... it's easier to convince a smaller group of people to work towards an objective than a larger group.
Now fragment those groups into 50 sub groups. This is why things take forever to get adopted in the U.S.
I would have thought the last few years would have opened peoples eyes to this. Great way to get around the legality of recording your interaction with the police by forcing you to not comply with providing ID.
Anyone who wants to verify your ID has to have an ID reader. Cop will ask you your tap his reader with your phone just like you would when using phone to make payments.
They won't take your phone. In AZ, the officer has a hand held reader that you just tap your phone on.
AZ DL already have a barcode on the back with all of the info.
When an officer issues a ticket, they simply scan the barcode and all your info automatically populates all the relevant fields in the traffic ticket.
AZ police also accept digital proof of insurance... they just look at your phone to see that "valid thru" dates.
They don't ever take your phone unless you choose to give it to them.
A few states in Australia have digital licences already, but through the official government app. I had one in Sough Australia & one in New South Wales (which in I can still partially access). Tasmania is super slow (we are 15 years behind the mainland) but I find the digital licences in Australia far more useful than anything in the wallet as they have many more features.
Bars, liquor stores, DMV and anyone who legally must check the ID for age verification or identity will have to purchase an ID reader and connect to the state database(s) to get the information. This is not a trivial expense and will take time to implement. Best way would be to tie it to the existing point of sale terminals most of them already have. It uses the same tech as payments.
Until it is support everywhere, this will always be annoying.
Exactly. It's both shocking and scary how many are missing the point. That list of "early adopter" sates includes some of the most backwards, authoritarian-friendly states in the country (Oklahoma, I'm looking at you). There's a reason for that. Digital ID is a horrible idea and a privacy nightmare.
And you're going to personally guarantee that NO law enforcement officer anywhere, EVER is going to demand to hold your phone?
Again, cops do not do what they are required/allowed by the law or the Constitution, they do anything they want.
"They won't take your phone"?? Really? Given the numerous documented interactions where people are tased and arrested for not showing an ID (when not required) makes me doubt this statement. How about the many videotaped incidents of cops taking phones from people who are recording events lawfully, just because they don't like it? Cops don't obey the law or the Constitution. You know very well that your statement, "They won't take your phone" is ludicrously false.
"But, but, I read on Macrumors that you wouldn't take my phone..."
Biometrics can be surveilled remotely. To use your analogy, it would be "handing over" that plastic card to everyone that is ever able to see/scan your face/eye/print etc. So every traffic light, Ring doorbell, WalMart security camera, etc. etc.
"Handing over a plastic card" keeps control with the individual. The ubiquitous "biometric verification for everything", by definition, equals continuous overt and covert surveillance and documentation of every move we make. To be used, of course, for fascist control and corporate profit.
I am in Denver and travel quite a bit. The machines worked for the first few weeks after launch but are now offline. A great idea and it worked at first, but it seems like it's still a ways off before its ready for primetime.
Meanwhile the need for a Real ID has been pushed back again. I wonder which will be first, Real ID or this(in all states) 
I have this since I'm in one of the early adopter states. I was a little bit disappointed in the design. You can't actually see the details of your license unless your phone is unlocked and you click the info "I" icon on the license. It's tailored towards NFC readers.
Yea might have it in PA by 2075. Have a Passport Card anyhow, so it doesn't matter to me.Meanwhile the need for a Real ID has been pushed back again. I wonder which will be first, Real ID or this(in all states)
I suspect if a cop waves a gun in your face, it's not going to matter if you use digital ID or not. They're gonna make any excuse to do so. Therefore digital ID isn't the problem, the cop and/or the criminal justice system the enables this is.
Good thing is, if you know your rights, you tell the cop they don't need to have your phone in their hand. There are states that implement digital ID and accept it for driving, and they specifically had to change their state laws to allow the driver to give their ID via a QR code in their state app, or hand over the good old fashioned plastic ID. If a cop in one of those states demands your phone, you can tell them you know the law and you know for a fact they scan the QR code and you don't hand your phone over. If a cop flips out about you not giving your ID, it's no different than a cop flipping out because you didn't consent to a search of your car, it's still a right, and a cop that goes out of their way to violate your rights can be called out on it.
Now if they shoot you, that's not so good. But I would suspect they would look for any reason to shoot you. Imagine you gave your ID, they say "It's fake" (even if you know for a fact it isn't), they arrest you, you appear to 'resist arrest' then they shoot you. Not too different a situation.
You don't need to carry a drivers license to drive in England.
I remember when Apple Pay on the Watch came out in 2015, nobody had it. Now 8 years later you can buy almost anything anywhere with just the Watch. Sometimes it takes awhile for technologies to be adopted generally.