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iPhone Driver's License Feature Slow to Expand, Only Available in Three States
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I thought about buying one of those wallet cases but I am a little uncomfortable putting everything in one place. If I lose my phone I'll still have my cards in my wallet. Not a great burden.
I don’t think you will be required to hand over your phone. Based on what I read is the police officer would just scan the QR code of your license in the wallet app to bring up your information without having you to enter your passcode.
Also what about insurance documentation as sometimes they ask for this. Some insurance companies have a digital version of the documents in the app (for example progressive insurance) as well as physical forms just in case.
I was able the setup my AZ State ID when this feature was released last year. However, I replaced my phone in November and the ID didn't transfer over. Re-doing the process results in an error message stating AZ MVD needs more info, and it comes across as committing fraud. I'm not sure what else they need, because you have to send them pictures of the ID front and back, as well as an image of yourself, and live actions (e.g. open mouth, turn head left, etc.). I believe Apple and the MVDs need to address a less-burdensome way of transferring the ID to a new phone, without compromising security.
At this point, I'm not pursuing getting digital ID, as the time investment has already exceeded its benefits, compared to that of simply having a physical ID. I have friends who upgraded to the iPhone 14 Pro. They ran into the same issue and don't want the digital ID any longer. It's a great idea in concept, but the implementation is off-putting.
At this point, I'm not pursuing getting digital ID, as the time investment has already exceeded its benefits, compared to that of simply having a physical ID. I have friends who upgraded to the iPhone 14 Pro. They ran into the same issue and don't want the digital ID any longer. It's a great idea in concept, but the implementation is off-putting.
Well… a better way to frame it - I think, feel free to disagree - is that licensing is handled by the state, not the country. So you’ve got 50 separate governments that need to write rules, develop systems, pass laws, then roll it out. Then you’ve got smaller sub divisions at the county, and smaller still at the city/town/village that will need to outfit their offices to provide it, police systems to read it and validate it. Then you’re going to have a very vocal, annoyingly loud, minority that will cry foul and cause delays across all of those 50.
Take PayPass and PayWave, as an example. While Europe was focused on EMV and chips/PINs in the early 2000s… we rolled out those NFC payments. Then the tin foil came out, shouted a bunch that people were going to steal card numbers from the other side of restaurants, or driving by you in their cars… it caused a rollback. Now it has been back in full force for a few years. So, we’ve got to deal with that inevitable backlash and fight through it.
There could be issues if a person with an electronic license travels to a state without it. They won't have any kind of reader and might demand to take the phone to their car so they can check the computer or radio. I don't drive but I would be inclined to keep my card available.
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Don't forget your local grocers/liquor shop/watering hole. If those places don't have readers that can validate the license is legit. Well, prepare for a spike in alcohol sales curteousy of teens pulling a McLovin.😉
I usually just shake my head and mumble cavemen and don't go back to cash only places. There was only one place my parents went to since they were dating that we would go to that was cash only, and even they finally take CC now. I'd rather have to pay a fee for using CC than not have the choice,
cool I just checked and I only need 60 more to go up a levelThere could be issues if a person with an electronic license travels to a state without it. They won't have any kind of reader and might demand to take the phone to their car so they can check the computer or radio. I don't drive but I would be inclined to keep my card available.
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It'll take me some time to get to your level. What's after 603?cool I just checked and I only need 60 more to go up a level
This is a little frustrating. I've been waiting forever to store my ID in my iPhone, and TBH, it'll probably be another 5 years before that can happen at the pace that things are going. I mean it's still probably a good idea (at least in my opinion) to be bringing your physical ID around with you, but having it in an iPhone will make it that much more convenient.
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whut? Id and Driver license on a Phone in Europe?
Wake me up in 20 years, i am german
Nobody wants to touch your phone, nobody even wants to look at your phone. The cop, or anyone who needs to check your ID, needs an NFC reader to understand what the phone is sending. No QR codes available with Apple's wallet ID, I've checked as I have it set up on my phone. Works just like ApplePay instead of sending credit card info, send ID info to the reader.
Apple has now enabled receiving payment info on iPhones. Maybe they could get in the market of allowing the iPhone to read the ID info for licenses. One way to get it more accepted in places other than airports. More likely my local bar would accept the ID if they had a cheap way to get an ID verifier.
Don't forget your local grocers/liquor shop/watering hole. If those places don't have readers that can validate the license is legit. Well, prepare for a spike in alcohol sales curteousy of teens pulling a McLovin.😉
Ooo. Excellent point. And anywhere that sells tobacco products and needing to have systems to scan a card for 50 potentially disparate systems, from national chain to local shop.
Ja, EC Kerte? I remember that, German only??? that was a thing few years ago. I remeber going around Europe with my visa and in Germany 99% times I heard "Nein nur EC Karte hier"
Maybe they can put some mods on the debit card readers to read the licenses. Those seem to be virtually everywhere.
With any technology there are costs associated. Even with physical ID there are devices bars buy as a business expense to verify the ID hasn't be tampered with and it's not fake. It's part of the cost of doing business.
That will never happen because the number is stuck at 0 till the state government actually decides to implement it. At least in the USA this is controlled by each state.
Do you think fake ID isn't a thing with physical cards? There are devices that check that but not all stores have them. I don't think digital ID is going to mean this is going to be a bigger problem.Don't forget your local grocers/liquor shop/watering hole. If those places don't have readers that can validate the license is legit. Well, prepare for a spike in alcohol sales curteousy of teens pulling a McLovin.😉
It's easier to photoshop a fake license than make a fake physical license. It's pretty easy to spot the physical fakes too. Digital version would be virtually impossible to tell from the fake without a proper reader.
I should correct myself in saying there will be attempts.
But 99.44% will be laughed out of shop if not roughed up by bartenders not happy at someone messing with their livelihood.
I've seen physical fakes that were indistinguishable from the real thing. I'm sure if you scanned the barcode like they do in some bars now it wouldn't pass but other than that they looked the same. You think it's easy to spot the fakes because yes you spot the bad ones and the good ones look real. You don't spot 100% of what you don't notice.It's easier to photoshop a fake license than make a fake physical license. It's pretty easy to spot the physical fakes too. Digital version would be virtually impossible to tell from the fake without a proper reader.
I should correct myself in saying there will be attempts.
I don't know how all states are doing the electronic license but the ones I've heard about it's not just a picture that you can just photoshop. I would put the photoshop attempts in the same category as the easy to spot physical fakes. I'm sure some smart kids are going to modify the code in the app to make it do what they want. Then you're right it would require some third party tool to check it.
While we’re at it, how about bringing digital Social Security cards (let’s face it, these are pretty much Federal ID cards) and Passports to Wallet?
Me, too. They have never had the machines on in either BWI or DCA when I've been there despite the fact that they have big signs by the security line advertising this feature.
We must live in two different Australia’s. NSW has had a digital drivers license through the Service NSW app for a couple of years now.
And I have had Apple pay set up with all, of my banks for ages, and never once found a vendor where it didn’t work.