Because there is absolutely no law whatsoever against it. Don't believe everything somebody says on these forums unless you know it to be true.
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Because there is absolutely no law whatsoever against it. Don't believe everything somebody says on these forums unless you know it to be true.
True. You also have to wonder how Nokia get past this with free updates to the N770, N800 and N810 which add functionality, even for those people in the USA.
(Technically, the iPod Touch is little different to the N800. Similar software stack (UNIX/Linux+Libraries+GUI), similar ARM processor, touch screen etc. The Touch is merely sleeker, with a better touch screen and lacks Bluetooth and speakers.)
Can't wait till June
I can't wait till June... Literally.
I've spent the entire year hoping and wishing I could use my iPhone on campus, all the while struggling away at my graduate education. Unfortunately, there was no 802.1x support...
In June I'll be graduating.
Thanks for nothing Apple! You waited waaaay to long to introduce this, and now I can't use it!
Thanks guys for the responses re ability to sync via Exchange on mac-configured iPhones. bytethese, you present the next question...my IT department are microsoft guys, unwilling to embrace anything else....so my fingers are crossed that I can get the powers that be to give the go-ahead.
802.1x?!? Huzzah! Super Monkey Ball? Gravy, baby!
Now my only decision is whether to buy a Touch immediately or wait a couple of months for an iPhone. The one thing still keeping me from purchasing the latter is AT&T. Its not that I hate AT&T, its just that I've had a really good experience using Verizon. I ' as loyal a consumer as they come, but the new iPhone features may prompt me to switch carriers.
Now my only decision is whether to buy a Touch immediately or wait a couple of months for an iPhone. The one thing still keeping me from purchasing the latter is AT&T. Its not that I hate AT&T, its just that I've had a really good experience using Verizon. I ' as loyal a consumer as they come, but the new iPhone features may prompt me to switch carriers.
This is so uninformed I dont even know why I am answering it. SarbOx affects accounting principles of public companies in the US. Whether they sell all their products in the US, or Timbuktu is irrelevant.
Nokia is based in Helsinki, Fin.
Besides, even if Nokia was based in the US, they would probably get by the same way Apple does with the iphone.
Important point to note is that SarbOx is a very new accounting law, that very few companies understand. With all the backdating trouble, Apple is probably playing it conservative.
Apple has another SarbOx handicap, in that they are such a secretive company, and dont declare information in advance. This is one of the main reasons that Apple users see this issue more than others.
(If you dont understand why SarbOx might require this, the reason is that it requires all execs to sign off SEC filings, basically, assuring that the information in there is absolutely accurate. If the information is found to be inaccurate, and the exec knew it was inaccurate, he/she gets into a lot of trouble. If Apple were to show that ipod touch profits were $100/piece, in their filings, and were to release this SDK later, (which costed them approx. $1/ipod touch to develop, Apple execs will get into trouble since that $100 dollar figure was wrong, and it should have been $99. The fact that Apple rarely mentions the SDK until the last possible second compounds this problem as Apple execs will not mention the fact that they are expecting lower profits because of SDK development.)
You do realise that is the job of IBM/Lotus, not Apple
Lotus/IBM have already announced their intention of Notes for iPhone/iPod Touch.
As for Notes in general, may I suggest you upgrade to a new package, I've never seen such an awful product in all my life. It makes Windows look half decent (and that's not saying much about Windows).
Small problem there sugar buns - Microsoft's Zune had a major feature update recently, and yet, IIRC they didn't charge for it. It was free of charge - how did they get away with that?
Anybody get a response back yet for beta testing? I applied for my company and we meet all the specs. and currently use all the new features on other devices, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
They "got away with it" honey pie because they are two different companies and each do what they want.
So in other words perky buns, Apple has chosen to shaft their users
Thanks for putting things straight.
US Law on financial reporting applies to companies based in the US. Finnish reporting laws apply to Nokia. It's where the company is, not where you are.
Let me say that again: it's where the company is, not where you are.
Import/safety laws apply based on where the product is sold. That would apply to where you are, not where the company is.
They got away with it because there weren't any Zunes sold, so it had no material impact on Microsoft's bottom line. iPods have a material impact on Apple's results.
Microsoft doesn't really care who licenses their technology. It is in their DNA to license their platforms like this. Their making tons of money on their "competitor". What's not to like?
I dunno, I can't type on the iPhone's little pseudo keys. I am beginning to hate my BlackBerry Pearl's SureType though. RIM better release the 9000 before June or they'll be in trouble for sure.looks like the end of crackberries is near
I gotta say, my little experience with the little keyboards on most smartphones has been disappointing. I always kind of expected a far better experience then my already satisfactory iPod typing, but I can't see how people can type on them. The slide out ones are normally spacious and better, but at best equal the iPhone/iPods.
The keys are certainly bigger than the tiny things on my Treo, especially in landscape mode. I've been pleasantly surprised at how fast I adapted to my iPod Touch. I'm at least 2X-2.5X faster on the Touch screen keyboard than I ever was on the Treo.
My advice to you and others would be to try it for 2 weeks and then decide.
not too mention that if MS didn't license it they might run into anti-trust issues...
It is absolutely not in their DNA to license out strategic technologies. That's why the EU is all over them. MS wants to own the mobile computing market like they own the desktop market. They don't play to be component providers, they play to dominate. They want to provide all the software on the device.
I'm not sure why they did this. EU pressure?
Well, the first question to ask would be how MS is carrying the Zune on its accounting books - - eg, was it done as a one shot (Touch) or spread out (iPhone)?
The second question is if they had 'promised' future upgrades at product launch. This then allows these future items to be simply delivered on a delayed schedule.
The third question is then how they specifically addressed the expense of the upgrade (assuming the appropriate path from the first two questions). I don't know Sox, but from what I've read about it, it doesn't seem to necessarily absolutely demand that the customer be charged a fee, but merely that the expense be very clearly identified as well as precisely WHO is going to pay for it and why...ie, it all needs to be justified.
My personal speculation on all of this is that it seems that it could be permissible for either company to have decided to allow the upgrade to be paid for out of, for example, a product advertising budget. What this then suggests is that each company had some underlying reason for doing what they did. For example, MS knows the Zune sucks, so it was justified under Marketing and Customer Development. For Apple, the Touch didn't suck, but Apple wasn't necessarily sure about who their customer was (country) or their price sensitivity, so using a charge was a cheap way to collect customer data. JMO.
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I like my iPhone in many ways, but typing sucks eggs compared to a device with actual keys. That experience seems to be shared by a large number of people.
I would love to know the answer to this, as well. I think it is doubtful that we will get it as part of 2.0 since there is no existing cooresponding app made to handle tasks. I am also very interested in Notes synchronization with Exchange. I use this extensively to keep up with little job details and could really stand to have it again. MS chose to leave notes off of the Smartphone platform and a few developers stepped in and filled the void with a product that would sync with Outlook. Even if we don't get Exchange sync of tasks and notes, maybe we can get Oulook sync from a third party.
There were two other commonly requested features that were not specifically mentioned yesterday. I didn't hear anything about cut and paste capability, or the ability to use other native apps, such as email and notes, in landscape mode. For those of us with big fingers that are used to Blackberrys, Qs, and Blackjacks, this would be a tremendious help. Anyone heard anything on these features?
It is a little disappointing that Apple's enterprise push with the iPhone required Exchange server although I guess the reality of the business world required this. I hope they have a parallel initiative to allow OS X server to achieve the same results. I find it interesting how little was mentioned about Microsoft's role during the conference. It seems to me that Microsoft must have played a huge role in making this a reality. Win-Win situation for both companies. Microsoft entrenches their exchange server even more while Apple infiltrates the enterprise with their mobile devices (first )
)Puhleeze....... that's nothing. We live with the joys of CommonStore, Sametime, Domino, Tivoli and all the other good stuff.
Thankfully, in my department we are AIX based.
But.... we still have to live with notes mail
Problem with Lotus was that they got carried away with Raven (around '88, as as I recall), and the 'everything is a document' meme has stuck ever since. IBM has, for some reason, adopted that....