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edit: sorry for the off-topic replies/rant. :p

The AppleTV should not need a widescreen option. High def resolutions are widescreen by default.

High resolution doesn't equal widescreen, at least not for 480p, which a lot of television sets support. My Xbox 360, for example, is set to 4:3 but is in 480p. And since the :apple:TV even supports 480i, I'm really wondering why they don't offer a 4:3 mode at least for 480i and 480p. I'm not even sure if widescreen, 480i-only television sets exist.

I wouldn't mind if the 720i/720p/1080i settings were only widescreen, but 4:3 support for 480i and 480p needs to be added, the iPods and iPhone already have it!

As for supporting older television sets, I guess Apple could come out with :apple:TV mini, which only has composite, S-Video and stereo outputs, with only 480i and 480p support in both 4:3 and widescreen. No hard drive, no wireless. A really basic, stripped-down unit. That's what I would've bought in the first place.
 
Why would the UK phone have NTSC options? They don't use that standard. They would want PAL options. NTSC would be all broken up on a PAL telly.
True, the UK doesn't use NTSC. But chances are they could if they want to, as most TVs made in the last 10 years can handle both systems without a problem. It's only US TVs that remain NTSC only for some reason, instead of multi-system.
 
True, the UK doesn't use NTSC. But chances are they could if they want to, as most TVs made in the last 10 years can handle both systems without a problem. It's only US TVs that remain NTSC only for some reason, instead of multi-system.

There's the added bonus that if you travel, you can connect your iPhone to any TV set in the world.

Well, you can plug it into a standard def tv if it has component inputs like mine does, but unless your tv has a widescreen setting (mine doesn't) the pictures will look squished (very technical term there). I bought it mainly for my audio library, and it works beautifully for that, so I don't really mind it that much, but it would be nice if it displayed correctly.

A little trick is to encode your :apple:TV movies with the wrong aspect ratio, so that when you play them back on your :apple:TV and 4:3 TV set, it displays correctly.
 
nice! i'm very excited to see these features... especially the TV out!! i wonder if the normal RCA cables with work with that.

the double click of the home button is nice too.
 
The Carrier selection menu is available on American iPhones, but only when roaming in another country.

Thats not true. I use ERA SIm card in US and have that option to choose between AT&T and T Mobile. Of course my phone is unlocked and is running 1.0.2

POLISH KEYBOARD lol :D

Hmm and why would you need that?? I'm Polish but I never ever use polish letters neither in SMS nor a mail cos it just completely ruin everything:rolleyes:
 
the one thing i'd really like to see... and it seems like it'd be a VERY simple update... would be to send a text message to multiple people. every phone i've ever owned could do that... why not the iphone?
 
nice! i'm very excited to see these features... especially the TV out!! i wonder if the normal RCA cables with work with that.

the double click of the home button is nice too.

Does TV out mean we could in theory put a iPhone keynote version on it and do slide presentations from the iPhone... THAT'S what I am waiting for since ages!:rolleyes:
 
the one thing i'd really like to see... and it seems like it'd be a VERY simple update... would be to send a text message to multiple people. every phone i've ever owned could do that... why not the iphone?

Apple wants you to use email.
 
edit: sorry for the off-topic replies/rant. :p



High resolution doesn't equal widescreen, at least not for 480p, which a lot of television sets support. My Xbox 360, for example, is set to 4:3 but is in 480p. And since the :apple:TV even supports 480i, I'm really wondering why they don't offer a 4:3 mode at least for 480i and 480p. I'm not even sure if widescreen, 480i-only television sets exist.

I wouldn't mind if the 720i/720p/1080i settings were only widescreen, but 4:3 support for 480i and 480p needs to be added, the iPods and iPhone already have it!

As for supporting older television sets, I guess Apple could come out with :apple:TV mini, which only has composite, S-Video and stereo outputs, with only 480i and 480p support in both 4:3 and widescreen. No hard drive, no wireless. A really basic, stripped-down unit. That's what I would've bought in the first place.

In terms of digital video resolutions, video modes with 480 vertical lines of vertical resolution are all classified as either "Standard definition" (24 - 30 fps progressive, 60 fps interlaced) or "Enhanced definition" (50 - 60 fps progressive). SDTV is defined for a 4:3 aspect ratio (eg. 640x480), and EDTV is additionally defined for a 16:9 aspect ratio (eg. 704x480, non-square pixels).

The only video modes classified as "High definition" have either 720 or 1080 lines of vertical resolution.
 
True, the UK doesn't use NTSC. But chances are they could if they want to, as most TVs made in the last 10 years can handle both systems without a problem. It's only US TVs that remain NTSC only for some reason, instead of multi-system.

If they could use NTSC if they wanted to, clients wouldn't pay me good money to convert my videos to PAL when they have to go to Europe. Sure, there are probably multi-system TVs available, but simple economics tells me they aren't widespread
 
Thoughts...

Once again, people are whining about items that the hackers have already provided. You all need to take a leap and jailbreak already...

Todo - this is already an app PXL if you jailbreak and install.

Aim IM and other IMs - this is already an app PXL if you jailbreak and install.

Safari Plug Ins - this concept is already an app PXL if you jailbreak and install, the plug in allows you to download PXL over Edge/WiFi and save. I don't see why they (the hacker who did it) couldn't use the same 'plug-in' and save passwords for Safari use as well.

Unified inbox - I would welcome that. Unless you have to email accounts going, you don't appreciate the true need for this one.

Search Function - this has been sorely overlooked by Apple since day one. Amazes me that they are so daft at technology, but a small part of their brain seems to be turned off sometimes.

Delete all or delete selected emails - this should be a no-brainer also.

TV Out would make Job's not a liar when he said it was the best iPod ever, and then it lacked TV Out...duh...how am I supposed to really enjoy my ($600-$100=expensive still) iPhone when my cruddy ole iPod 30gVideo will play videos no problem?
 
I haven't read all the posts but they forgot one feature:

Re-locks unlocked phone. :mad:

As another user said, the iPhone is locked and it was advertised that way. That's how it is, you should expect it to be like that, if by the off chance people figure out how to unlock it you should feel lucky. If you don't like how the phone providers work in the US, send a letter to your congress man.
 
Hi guys,

I wanted to buy an iPhone like today, but when I read this update I thought I should better wait for coupl of days. now my question is, if I buy today, can I install the firmware later?
 
Hi guys,

I wanted to buy an iPhone like today, but when I read this update I thought I should better wait for coupl of days. now my question is, if I buy today, can I install the firmware later?
Yes, the firmware is installed via iTunes and is optional (you don't have to take it).
 
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