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International character support vs. International keyboard support

I will finally be able to have a piñata party!

Do not hit the panda with a stick.

1.1.1 already supports 'international' characters (ñ, á, etc.) I believe that 1.1.2 will introduce support for 'international' keyboard layouts.
 
For us English language users, they better start tying these updates to added features, or what is the point? I can load third party apps and fix the TIFF exploit with 1.1.1. I hope the launch of Leopard and subsequent 10.5.1 release allows engineers to get back over to the iPhone development, because a lack of ToDo and Note syncing is just unacceptable. It was okay for it not to be in a 1.0 release - I understand. But this BS has gone on long enough.

Fixing / patching the holes is probably taking some resources as they are probably looking also for other similar issues to also patch so they are not used for the next jail break.

Those resources are not available to enhance the product with new features that were planned all along.

Since they have a contractual obligation to patch it and to lower their liability and exposure to legal action by consumers and business parthers, they have no choice but to set those people to work on that instead of enhancements.
 
There is a notion in our frightened world that says if its 'illegal' or 'forbidden' its wrong - I would advise anyone with a brain to examine the real purpose of most laws and rules - they are not there to make you safe or happy. They exist to make the rich richer and the poor compliant, and/or satisfy the need to control, or the need to submit and belong.

Yes, Eddie Murphy was right... Kill My Landlord.
And what's up with the speed limit, just the man keeping me down!
There are some people that do things just because they are illegal or forbidden.

I'm all for unlocking iphones (I need to do the deed in december when I go to France), just don't complain to Apple once you've done it.

Oh ya, and all those downloaded songs on P2P aren't copyright infringement because they wouldn't have bought the songs anyway - so no lost $$.:rolleyes:

My point, I guess, is I love my iphone... or something.
 
Ive never understood why people are so adamant that 'they paid downright for their iPhone they should be allowed to do whatever they want with it'. That just doesnt make sense. I paid for my car, but im not allowed to drive it at a hundred miles an hour on the road. If i drove it at a hundred miles an hour my insurance wouldnt cover it since I was driving un-responsibly. Same for iPhone, if you hacked it, you shouldnt expect apple to cater for you when they update the operating system. There are fewer moans about apps that arent working with 10.5 than there are about apps that are broken when apple updates the iPhone. When you buy the iPhone, you know what you are getting, and if its not what you want, then buy something else.
 
Mine has no bugs. Safari has never crashed on me, nor has music randomly stopped while I was doing anything else on it, even using applications applied after jailbreaking.

In other words, why on Earth would I risk losing all that for language support that has no impact on me? Ah right, the good ol' mysterious "miscellaneous bugs" issue. Ie: trust us, your device is buggy, let us fix it for you (and also brick you).

No thanks. Wake me when a real update comes along.
 
Not the case at all. Unlocked phones don't require any backup from Apple, so they actually make money without having to cover it with warranty or support.
Also, most of the unlockers have no choice - AT&T may not be for them, and of course, here in Canada, there is no choice at all.

There is a notion in our frightened world that says if its 'illegal' or 'forbidden' its wrong - I would advise anyone with a brain to examine the real purpose of most laws and rules - they are not there to make you safe or happy. They exist to make the rich richer and the poor compliant, and/or satisfy the need to control, or the need to submit and belong.

Apple is guilty of that, same as any other large corporation.

The hackers who have made it possible to run an iPhone without being tethered to any specific co. will soon bypass 1.1.2, I am sure.
They have a need to resist, and I applaud them for that.

Cuba is just a few miles south of Florida, this is America. This country is run by corporations for profit, that is the way it is.

Elections are coming, go vote against all the politicians in the pockect of corporations.

*** FLASH NEWS, 97% of congress was defeated.
 
Since they have a contractual obligation to patch it and to lower their liability and exposure to legal action by consumers and business parthers, they have no choice but to set those people to work on that instead of enhancements.

You should see this as a good thing. In fact, the hackers are saving Apple a lot of time and money by showing them where their product's weaknesses are. Apple's able to address these weaknesses and provide a more secure, stable product as a result.

You should view the hackers as, at worst, free security and quality assurance staff for Apple.
 
You should see this as a good thing. In fact, the hackers are saving Apple a lot of time and money by showing them where their product's weaknesses are. Apple's able to address these weaknesses and provide a more secure, stable product as a result.

You should view the hackers as, at worst, free security and quality assurance staff for Apple.

The hackers will always win. They are one of the sharpest pools of intelligence that I am aware of.
 
Not even Microsoft would do this...

It is absurd what we cannot do with our own purchase. Currently, Apple is selling a screwdriver that zaps you every time you want to use it on a different screw than what they say you should. They need to understand that consumers won't be good sheep and let their rights slip away. The DRM fiasco where songs are owned but only so much as the company lets you has been ridiculous and painful enough. Having to buy your song twice if you use it as a ringtone fueled the flames. Making updates with the express purpose of destroying what we have found useful is bad enough. We should not tolerate more abuse and against overwhelming negative PR, Apple and AT&T will have to respect us. That the industry has always spit on its customers is no comfort to me and it is time for change.
 
Fixing / patching the holes is probably taking some resources as they are probably looking also for other similar issues to also patch so they are not used for the next jail break.

Those resources are not available to enhance the product with new features that were planned all along.

Since they have a contractual obligation to patch it and to lower their liability and exposure to legal action by consumers and business parthers, they have no choice but to set those people to work on that instead of enhancements.

I don't know about that. The open source community - working for free - patched the TIFF exploit long ago. I don't think looking for buffer overflows is really taking that many engineering resources. Furthermore, that kind of bug squashing can easily be worked on by easily available talent.

Where resources get tight is adding features or working on complex software issues (such as iCal - Mail ToDo syncing in Leopard, which works for sh*t now).

I mean this is my speculation, but the notes syncing is downright ludicrous at this point.
 
You applaud them for that? You applaud the hackers who mess with their phones and then expect the world from Apple and for them to make it all better? Seeing a dude with an iBrick ranks up there with watching that speeder pulled over 10 minutes later. Maybe the hackers should bypass 1.1.2, 1.1.3, and every other update. Then while 99% of the iphone community is using and enjoying their iPhones, the hackers will still be the disgruntled minority who thinks Apple is out to get them every time they come out with a firmware update. "Oh no! What are we going to do?!" Sheesh, cry me a river and go back to your Razr.

Still at 1.0.2 and extremely happy! ;)

Razr's suck...
 
Japanese input support maybe?? You know, with the current firmware, on a proper web site that has Japanese encoding, you can tap a text box, and actually type in Japanese, so the whole hiragana/katakana/kanji character sets are there. They're just disabled for general use across all the iPhone apps (Mail, Notes, etc).
 
I herd hat it my provide disk use to manul many music that would be assume that is the bigger thing I miss from my ipod. That would make hacking raise though so they prolly won't. They want. The platform looked down for fe uary, just more money for them
 
My 2¢ Worth...

Rather than complaining that Apple "broke my hacked iPhone," the simpler solution would be to NOT install any updates that come down the pipe. After all, if you do not apply any updates, you are indeed getting everything you paid for and can do anything you want to it. The problem is that hackers want their cake and eat it too. You can't complain that Apple is breaking your hacks and that there should be freedom to hack without interference, but at the same time then complain because you can't use the new features or security benefits of the update that Apple has devoted time and money to provide.

You can't have it both ways folks.
 
you are right but apple shouldn't break hacked iphones they should just dellet the apps but not brick them.
 
That doesn't mean they will release it then. Are you sure they dont go on sale at 6pm like everywhere else?

Yes, it means it will be released by then. Can you imagine what will happen if you took back your 1.1.2 back home, open itunes and do a restore, and get 1.1.1 instead?. Actually, THAT might brick the phone.

fake edit: regarding the midnight thing, it is official according to this press release from tmobile that a couple of tpunkt shops will be opened on 9th of November 00:01.
 
That doesn't mean they will release it then. Are you sure they dont go on sale at 6pm like everywhere else?

I'm pretty sure I read that they will be released at midnight. That could mean a release for us here in the states. That would be at 6 my time here on the east coast.
 
Yes, it means it will be released by then. Can you imagine what will happen if you took back your 1.1.2 back home, open itunes and do a restore, and get 1.1.1 instead?. Actually, THAT might brick the phone.

fake edit: regarding the midnight thing, it is official according to this press release from tmobile that a couple of tpunkt shops will be opened on 9th of November 00:01.

Very interesting point about a restore. Couldn't Apple just release 1.1.2 to Germany at midnight to prevent issues and hold off on the US til tomorrow?
 
Where is landscape keyboard and the half-dozen or so universally requested tweaks? What are they working on over there?

Probably this little thing called leopard... They have some issues to worry about in an update.


I know I know... How dare apple work on software that isn't iphone related.


On a side note.... WHERE IS OUR CANADIAN IPHONE!
 
you are right but apple shouldn't break hacked iphones they should just dellet the apps but not brick them.

Your missing the point.


Apple isn't writing software to explicitly kill 3rd party apps. They are just going marryly along and working on the iphone software. It just so happens that, that updated software doesn't work with the current 3rd party apps.


In some interview Apple said something like "We don't care if people use third party apps on the iphone, but we are not going to worry about breaking them accidently".
 
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