iPhone Firmware 1.1.2 On The Way

[panamajack]

cantonese is a dialect of putonghua... its written form is simplified or traditional chinese. whomever gave that tip is a moron.

Actually before you call people morons, you should know that Cantonese, being a much older Chinese dialect (putonghua/Mandarin is just another dialect too, designed to be a standardized form of the Beijing dialect for imperial bureaucrats around 900 years ago) than Mandarin has dozens of characters not found in Mandarin (simplifed or traditional) character sets. Therefore they use their own.

Check the Traditional Chinese Big 5 HKSCS in View -> Text Encoding in your favourite web browser.

I can't wait until Unicode has taken over completely, making updates like this utterly unecessary.

 

[THE JUICEMAN]

I would really appreciate some bug fixes:

1. Way too many Safari crashes.

2. The "Play" arrow will spontaneously come on while I'm browsing on Safari, and it sucks up battery life. I have to manually switch back to the iPod, turn on a song, and then turn it off to ge the blue arrow to stop showing "Play." This is a known bug, Apple. Fix it!

I've had this bug too. It is pretty annoying. This may be a dumb question but oh well......Anybody know of a way to get ringtones without jailbreaking and/or paying Apple more $$??

 

[moki]

I would really appreciate some bug fixes:

1. Way too many Safari crashes.

2. The "Play" arrow will spontaneously come on while I'm browsing on Safari, and it sucks up battery life. I have to manually switch back to the iPod, turn on a song, and then turn it off to ge the blue arrow to stop showing "Play." This is a known bug, Apple. Fix it!

shhhhhhhhh. They are too busy breaking iToner.

 

[JosiahPB]

No Spanish?? ¡Venga, hombre!

 

[Zuwxiv]

You're kidding right?

How about teaching thousands of people how to exploit security holes in the iPhone.

Yeah no impact on anyone!

Knowledge isn't dangerous... if anything, it's ignorance that should be feared.

I mean, what if you were to take something prone to security holes - an internet browser. And make it available to everyone! Anyone could find and see the vulnerabilities, and a community of people would be dedicated to teaching others about those vulnerabilities. How awful! How horrible! How... Secure. Welcome to Firefox and the future of open source. Using Internet Explorer is like asking for malware.

Same thing goes for operating systems. Ever hear of Linux?

Everything is going to have some vulnerability, some security hole. And it's only a matter of time before someone finds it. So honestly, which would you rather have? Thousands of people (well, hundreds of thousands actually) knowing about the exploits, or just a handful who are really determined?

Keep in mind, 99% of people who are exploiting these security holes are harmless or beneficial, helping to make new applications or just supporting new programs. Only a tiny, tiny minority would actually attempt to cause damage with these by creating viruses, etc. And this minority can be very, very determined.

So by "teaching thousands of people how to exploit security holes in the iPhone," you actually guarantee a greater level of security, because the security holes aren't just secrets used by people to create a virus - they're used by many people to help the user, and to make more out of the product they bought.

As for your sarcastic "Yeah, no impact on anyone!"... I couldn't agree more. It has a huge impact on many people - like me, who get much more use out of their phone now. I paid 600 bucks for it (Yeah, I was one of those fools), why shouldn't I get to use it however I want? I'm not holding Apple responsible if I break it. Their warrantee doesn't cover this, and that's understandable. I just want to use it how I want, and I'll be responsible for that.


This comes from someone who has attended the largest hacker conference in the world (Defcon) - which is full of nice people who share an interest of making things work better, in more ways than originally intended or limited to.

Edit: Erm... Just remember that if you go to Defcon, that 1% really starts to add up when you have a few thousand people... Better keep wifi off.

 

[sweetice2007]

1.1.2

its official the European phones will be despatched with the 1.1.2 firmware just read it in google alerts.boasts additional languages and package for accessing the cloud hotspots... And it begins again ... Not much of a thing for me to update mine tho.. Still happywith 1.0.2

 

[breal8406]

I want a better way to manage my ToDo's on iPhone!

 

[pogwilson@ntlwo]

Taking Advantage of Leopard?

I want a better way to manage my ToDo's on iPhone!

Okay - Leopard's out. If this update doesn't give us proper To Dos and Notes support and improve iCal syncing (the three weakest aspects of the iPhone for my needs) then it's another missed opportunity (at best). Here's hoping Apple are doing more than playing cat and mouse this time.

 

[Sobe]

Knowledge isn't dangerous... if anything, it's ignorance that should be feared.

I mean, what if you were to take something prone to security holes - an internet browser. And make it available to everyone! Anyone could find and see the vulnerabilities, and a community of people would be dedicated to teaching others about those vulnerabilities. How awful! How horrible! How... Secure. Welcome to Firefox and the future of open source. Using Internet Explorer is like asking for malware.

Same thing goes for operating systems. Ever hear of Linux?

Everything is going to have some vulnerability, some security hole. And it's only a matter of time before someone finds it. So honestly, which would you rather have? Thousands of people (well, hundreds of thousands actually) knowing about the exploits, or just a handful who are really determined?

Keep in mind, 99% of people who are exploiting these security holes are harmless or beneficial, helping to make new applications or just supporting new programs. Only a tiny, tiny minority would actually attempt to cause damage with these by creating viruses, etc. And this minority can be very, very determined.

So by "teaching thousands of people how to exploit security holes in the iPhone," you actually guarantee a greater level of security, because the security holes aren't just secrets used by people to create a virus - they're used by many people to help the user, and to make more out of the product they bought.

As for your sarcastic "Yeah, no impact on anyone!"... I couldn't agree more. It has a huge impact on many people - like me, who get much more use out of their phone now. I paid 600 bucks for it (Yeah, I was one of those fools), why shouldn't I get to use it however I want? I'm not holding Apple responsible if I break it. Their warrantee doesn't cover this, and that's understandable. I just want to use it how I want, and I'll be responsible for that.


This comes from someone who has attended the largest hacker conference in the world (Defcon) - which is full of nice people who share an interest of making things work better, in more ways than originally intended or limited to.

Edit: Erm... Just remember that if you go to Defcon, that 1% really starts to add up when you have a few thousand people... Better keep wifi off.

Knowledge isn't dangerous? Knowledge isn't automatically dangerous, no.

Knowledge in the hands of people who like to harm, annoy, harass, or inconvenience people?

DANGEROUS!

This is so self evident, there really is no argument needed.

It is one thing to point out flaws.

That's fine and I am all for it.

It is entirely another to hand out instructions on how to actually exploit the security flaws.

It's sort of like why on shows like, say, Mythbusters, when they make some crazy thing like exploding pants they leave out ingredients so some crazy people don't go duplicating their efforts.

And no I am not comparing a TIFF exploit to explosives.

The process is my point rather than the specific thing being shown.

So to recap:

Finding security holes and notifying the world about them: GOOD.

Putting up detailed instructions on how to exploit security holes so anyone with an internet connection can access it: BAD.

 

[koobcamuk]

I dont know if they are talking about something different but you can enable the international keyboard on 1.1.1 by changing a value in a plist file. I have both English and Japanese keyboards working on mine right now .

Ditto. All I need. I am not good enough at Japanese yet to have the menus displayed in Japanese. I'll stick with 1.1.1 until iPhoneSIMFREE is known to work, or something to that effect.

 

[zedsdead]

What would be nice: Fixing the damn SAFARI/IPOD related crashes! It is ridiculous that this has not been addressed yet. When listening to music and surfing the net, the Phone will crash, without fail eventually.

Since this is a 0.0.1 update, there should be no new Apps coming. Do not expect anything substantial at all.

 

[Project]

Id be surprised if we ever see MMS.

I get the feeling MMS is the new floppy disk (iMac)

 

[boss1]

Well it looks like we're going back go "sonar" .

BTW I really don't think a lot of speculation has gone into the fact that this iTunes release isn't 7.43 (usual bug fixes etc).

Rather this is 7.5 . I wonder if that means Apple's managed to keep a tight lid on major feature.

 

[JC4]

What would be nice: Fixing the damn SAFARI/IPOD related crashes! It is ridiculous that this has not been addressed yet. When listening to music and surfing the net, the Phone will crash, without fail eventually.

Since this is a 0.0.1 update, there should be no new Apps coming. Do not expect anything substantial at all.

Ditto. Why is apple spending more time killing 3rd party apps than fixing their own? On top of the original bugs, 1.1.1 introduced more crashes and lags that weren't there originally.

Oh, we did get the purple button somewhere along the way. Which I personally have no use for.

Apple: priorities should be Fix. New features(FLASH). Then, stopping 3rd party apps. Please try thinking of your customers, first!

JohnC

 

[pale9]

i am still at 1.02 and will stay there.

i wonder how many idiots will once again install this so called update to then find out they were shafted once again....

 

[Steve Jobs=God]

So if UK iPhones are going to be shipped with 1.1.2 are already installed, wouldn't that mean that Apple have already finished working on the update?

 

[paja]

1.1.2 update

I have no need for these storage hogging languages. Will Apple give users an option not to install them?

Hurry up with that SDK, the phone is getting a little stale.

 

[Project]

Ditto. Why is apple spending more time killing 3rd party apps than fixing their own? On top of the original bugs, 1.1.1 introduced more crashes and lags that weren't there originally.

Oh, we did get the purple button somewhere along the way. Which I personally have no use for.

Apple: priorities should be Fix. New features(FLASH). Then, stopping 3rd party apps. Please try thinking of your customers, first!

JohnC

Quite a silly post.

By closing the TIFF exploit which breaks the current hack, Apple are fixing their own (Safari)

 

[macintel4me]

It will be such a relief to have a native Apple-supported iPhone / iPod Touch SDK available. Until then...the hacks for the hacks continue......

 

[Swift]

They have no choice

The latest "jailbreak" is reportedly due to someone finding a way to get root by employing a malformed TIFF to induce a buffer overflow. That's called a hack, and if you can use it to install an app, then others can use it for other, bad things. Apple has no choice, in fact, they have an obligation to close that security hole.

The SDK, the authorized way of adding apps, is now coming, and those who want applications on their iPhones now have a legal way to look forward to.

All those who have changed the firmware to use the iPhone with other carriers have the clear choice: don't upgrade.

 

[0098386]

I don't see what the big deal is, seeing that in a couple of months Apple will open the iPhone up to 3rd party apps.

I'd rather sit back with a completely "road legal" iPhone and not risk bricking it and waiting for the SDK to be released.

 

[icecone]

What the hell?
The iPhone displays Cantonese???
Cantonese is a spoken language but not written. And the old iPhones can just display traditional Chinese well. I hope I can just type traditional Chinese on it with the UK iphones

 

[guzhogi]

This is a useful upgrade.. For people who aren't English speakers, which is.. Hell, more than half of the world?

Seems pretty important to me.

Very true. Americans seem to think that they're the most important people in the world. That reminds me of a joke:
Q. How many Americans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A. None. They just hold the light bulb up and wait for the world to revolve around them.

 

[lanray]

they need to bait the hook

Apple will need to "bait the hook", so to speak, this time around, if they want anyone to upgrade. Sure, a good chunk of folks will just upgrade because that's what they do (I fall into this category). There's a lot of people, though, who really like 3rd party apps, etc., who won't unless there's a nice carrot dangling in front, like notes syncing, or radio, or better mail syncing. Can't say I blame them. Hopefully Apple listens up and adds something more to this than just bug and security fixes.

 

[bbyrdhouse]

Not the Second Time Around

I was an early Jailbreaker but when 1.1.1. came out I thought that it would only effect those who had unlocked the sim card, but like everybody else I found out that I could not use AppTapp or any of the other cool apps for iPhone.
I waited and waited until finally there was a way to jailbreak the iPhone again. And now I can enjoy all of those apps again.

I will not be so stupid this time around. I am going to wait and let everyone else be the guinea pigs this time.