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The cat and mouse game continues.

Even when Apple do release the SDK, the unlocking cat and mouse game will still continue.

Apple and the hackers will be in this for the long term...until Apple choose to sell unlocked versions.

Apple could get more aggressive, i.e., in order to sync with iTunes you must have firmware 1.1.2.
 
Apple will need to "bait the hook", so to speak, this time around, if they want anyone to upgrade. Sure, a good chunk of folks will just upgrade because that's what they do (I fall into this category). There's a lot of people, though, who really like 3rd party apps, etc., who won't unless there's a nice carrot dangling in front, like notes syncing, or radio, or better mail syncing. Can't say I blame them. Hopefully Apple listens up and adds something more to this than just bug and security fixes.


Just make sure you trust every site with TIFFs on it that you browse to ok?

Apple has an obligation to make their software secure. I expect that, and so should all Apple users.

It is a shame that it stops a way of utilising the phone in a different way but that is just the way it goes. The SDK is around the corner, as is a more sustainable way of having 3rd party apps on the phone (that hopefully aren't running as root!)

I wonder if this version is exploitable? And in what time period. I would certainly find a native and secure (and updatable) SSH clinet very very useful in my line of work.

I'd love to see a proper keychain implemented on there too, Apple.....but I digress.
 
I am all for Apple finding a way to prevent people from hacking the phone. I get excited every time there's talk of phones getting "bricked" because the people who hacked the phone had it coming. Apple has every right to fight off hackers with new updates, and I give them my full support in their quest to screw over anyone who tries to mess with their product.

You are, to put it mildly, an Idiot. :)
 
Very true. Americans seem to think that they're the most important people in the world. That reminds me of a joke:
Q. How many Americans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A. None. They just hold the light bulb up and wait for the world to revolve around them.

Hmmmm, We(Americans) aren't the most important people in the world???;) And yes that's exactly how I change my light bulbs.
 
All Apple has to do to ensure people update, is install some cool new programs, copy/paste, or silly stuff. If its minor bug fixes, people are just gonna stick to 1.1
 
It's called iTunes 7.5.

Apple will need to "bait the hook", so to speak, this time around, if they want anyone to upgrade.

Why do you think it is OK to call someone a name who is expressing an opinion.

I actually agree with Jade Cambell, the time and effort that Apple is having to deploy to battle the hackers is taking away from the rest of us. We might have seen new applications & features already.

You are, to put it mildly, an Idiot. :)
 
Hi,

1.1.2 will probably fix the TIFF bug in Safari.

I would think that an update adding new features would be a 1.2 update.

Hopefully there will be an update for the iPod Touch fixing the "bug" that prevents you from adding calender entries.

Thanks for Reading.
 
You're kidding right?

No i'm not.

How about teaching thousands of people how to exploit security holes in the iPhone.

How about teaching thousands of people how to exploit security holes in the iPhone and after that patch it for them! I'm sure you know that AppSnapp actually patches the TIFF expoit after it installs, so it even makes you phone more secure!

Oh, and in any case you can also change your firmware password if you want, just to be extra secure!

Yeah no impact on anyone!

Not if you do it the correct way.
 
Apple could get more aggressive, i.e., in order to sync with iTunes you must have firmware 1.1.2.

This doesn't mean anything, I will simply not update to the newest iTunes. I personally believe once Orange starts selling unlocked iPhones in France, the game is over for Apple. Copy locktables off these unlocked phones, dump them onto hacked iPhones and you have thousands of clones that can be updated with no problems. Apple didn't break intentionally anySIM 1.0.2 unlocks anyway, and is highly probable that anySIM 1.1.1 will work for 1.1.2 me thinks.
 
This doesn't mean anything, I will simply not update to the newest iTunes. I personally believe once Orange starts selling unlocked iPhones in France, the game is over for Apple. Copy locktables off these unlocked phones, dump them onto hacked iPhones and you have thousands of clones that can be updated with no problems. Apple didn't break intentionally anySIM 1.0.2 unlocks anyway, and is highly probable that anySIM 1.1.1 will work for 1.1.2 me thinks.

It means a lot. If you cant sync with itunes without the newest firmware...Then it doesnt matter if you dont update to the newest itunes...
 
This doesn't mean anything, I will simply not update to the newest iTunes. I personally believe once Orange starts selling unlocked iPhones in France, the game is over for Apple. Copy locktables off these unlocked phones, dump them onto hacked iPhones and you have thousands of clones that can be updated with no problems. Apple didn't break intentionally anySIM 1.0.2 unlocks anyway, and is highly probable that anySIM 1.1.1 will work for 1.1.2 me thinks.

yes, you don't have to upgrade. A lot of people like being on the bleeding edge too. Apple could go further - in order to use iTMS you must have the latest version of iTunes - that sort of thing. Yes, a lot of people just won't bother upgrading, but Apple can start to make people's lives difficult.

The French iPhone will be interesting - how do Apple stop non French consumers getting their hands on the unlocked French version? Maybe the French iPhone is stuck using the French language, for example. ( Personally, I'm all for an unlocked iPhone - even if Apple charges a bit more ).

Engadget / Gizmo ( forgotten which ) has confirmed SIM unlocking apps are broken using v1.1.2.
 
Personally I think Apple has a lot of nerve to continue harassing us in regards to our ringtones. If its not all about profits, why in gods name do they care. Even Steve Wozniak stated that we should be able add our own ringtones unhindered. To put it simply, I see it as all about profits, whether it comes from the RIAA or Apple's persistence in luring us into there damn iTunes store. I applaud Ambrosia, plz keep up the good work as you helping me make up for Apple's lack of decent ringtones on our iPhones. I am not updating, nor at this point do I hear of any specific reason to update, sorry Apple but my phone is working fine.

Don't fix what ain't broke...
 
It's odd that no one has made remarks that maybe OS X on the iPhone had a lot of patches & hacks that have to be taken care of - and that is what the upgrades are doing - a group at a time. If 3rd party apps work Apple really isn't going to care as it just helps sell more units. They are not, however, going to go out of their way to ensure all of these apps work with every update and that is understandable.

So between now and when the SDK is released there will probably be a lot more upgrades, all moving towards v.1.2 at the time the SDK is released. At that time current developers will be facing a problem of ensuring that their apps work under 1.2 as well as moving the apps to the SDK based level.

THAT's going to be a rather confusing time for those with a handful of 3rd party apps on their iPhones.

As for unlocking the iPhone for other carriers, Apple is going to continue to play the cat & mouse game at a level that is called for under their contract with ATT. If you want to play the game that's up to you, but don't moan and complain like a little kid - you know the rules when you spent your money.
 
actually, it is quite the opposite

It seems like a critical update since with the current version a single click on a malicious website could give away all the personal info stored in your iPhone.

:)
1.1.2 seems to be a useless update :)
I can type all the chinese I want right now, with my unlocked 1.1.1

Apple cant force iPhone user to update. And its just a matter of time that 1.1.2 will be hacked..
Come on, there are like thousands or more hackers working on it. Thats thousands vs one...
 
iPod Touch

I assume that this is an update for the iPod Touch also... :(
I think I am going to best buy sometime around Friday next week to pick one up... will the ones in the US have the update by then? I hope not, because I really want the 3rd party apps.

-Shep
 
Does anyone else think that 1.1.2 might only be for European iPhones? When you think about it, most other devices (Blackberry, Nokia, Motorola) have localized firmware depending on what region / cell provider you are with.
 
I almost forgot, but Flash support is supposed to be added, eventually. It would be nice if they did it before Christmas.
 
Does anyone else think that 1.1.2 might only be for European iPhones?

Not when 1.1.1 contains a glaring security hole in Safari. You can go to a website with a carefully crafted TIFF image and get 'rooted'. This is something all iPhone users should want fixed.

It's up to individual users if they want to hold off though. They might want to retain access to the phone via that route and keep 1.1.1 (or retain the hack applied). Fair enough if they do, that's their choice.
 
Not when 1.1.1 contains a glaring security hole in Safari. You can go to a website with a carefully crafted TIFF image and get 'rooted'. This is something all iPhone users should want fixed.

It's up to individual users if they want to hold off though. They might want to retain access to the phone via that route and keep 1.1.1 (or retain the hack applied). Fair enough if they do, that's their choice.

Keep in mind that the hack does fix the TIFF exploit after it gains access (i think)

No, they didn't.
Yes they did.
 
I think Apple is struggling with this whole concept of locking down the iPhone and continuing its policy of control over the entire platform. On the one hand you have Steve who seems to like everything locked down tight, and then you have the marketing types,who want world domination by selling lots and lots of phones. I think for the first time ever, the marketing end has forced Steve's hand. In order to sell more phones, they have to listen to what people want, ie suddenly reversing trend and opening up 3rd party apps in Feb. Sooner or later they will realize that in order to please its customers (and sell more phones), they will eventually have to listen to the people.
 
I think Apple is struggling with this whole concept of locking down the iPhone and continuing its policy of control over the entire platform. On the one hand you have Steve who seems to like everything locked down tight, and then you have the marketing types,who want world domination by selling lots and lots of phones. I think for the first time ever, the marketing end has forced Steve's hand. In order to sell more phones, they have to listen to what people want, ie suddenly reversing trend and opening up 3rd party apps in Feb. Sooner or later they will realize that in order to please its customers (and sell more phones), they will eventually have to listen to the people.

Steve said from the beginning that there would be 3rd party apps coming.
 
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