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Steve said from the beginning that there would be 3rd party apps coming.

I remember Steve saying that " Apple may open the iPhone up to 3rd party apps" and then decided to go with web apps instead, to keep the system locked down tight. He said it would keep the bad guys from exploiting the operating system.
 
I remember Steve saying that " Apple may open the iPhone up to 3rd party apps" and then decided to go with web apps instead, to keep the system locked down tight. He said it would keep the bad guys from exploiting the operating system.

And yet they are releasing an SDK. The webapps are only there to take our minds off the SDK till it is released. Thats why the SDK was announced like right after the webapps were.
This only have to do with JAILBREAKING (using jailbreakme) not UNLOCKING. And this is because jailbreakme relies on the TIFF exploit, which was patched in 1.1.2. The TIFF exploit has nothing to do with unlocking nor has anything to do with the jailbreaking technique used in iNdepedence.

So..No, no one has confirmed that unlocking is broken on 1.1.2.

Well it seems to go without saying that it would stop that too. Just my opinion, not trying to argue with you.
 
Keep in mind that the hack does fix the TIFF exploit after it gains access (i think)

I know. That is the implication in my post. 1.1.2 fixed that particular glaring security hole.

btw. @ Compile em all

If you cannot jailbreak, you cannot unlock yes? The unlocking procedure requires a 3rd party app on the iPhone does it not?
 
I know. That is the implication in my post. 1.1.2 fixed that particular glaring security hole.

Right, and im saying that hacking your iPhone fixes it too, therefore, if the switch to 1.1.2 only fixes that, theres no incentive.
 
You're kidding right?

How about teaching thousands of people how to exploit security holes in the iPhone.

Yeah no impact on anyone!

To what end? To accomplish what exactly? 1.4 million iPhones sold and active in the U.S.

Point out to me one negative security exploit. One.
 
Not when 1.1.1 contains a glaring security hole in Safari. You can go to a website with a carefully crafted TIFF image and get 'rooted'. This is something all iPhone users should want fixed.

It's up to individual users if they want to hold off though. They might want to retain access to the phone via that route and keep 1.1.1 (or retain the hack applied). Fair enough if they do, that's their choice.

No kidding. Thats why I didn't wait around for Apple to do it. I used Apptapp and fixed it myself.
 
Is it not possible for people who buy 1.1.2 iPhones to use iNdependence to downgrade to 1.1.1 or 1.0.2 to get it jailbroken?

Also, do we know if the 1.1.2 firmware also disables the iNdependence method of "Activating" your iPhone to use iPod and Safari features?

Me hoping not!
(Apple - a love hate relationship) :rolleyes:
 
I asked you to point at one NEGATIVE security EXPLOIT. Not a potential hole. I meant point at a story, even a BS story, of someone being maliciously hacked.

Any exploit in any Apple software should be plugged immediately. I expect that of Apple. No ifs, no buts.

I'm not saying they should stop people from jailbreaking however, just that if the route in is via a genuine security exploit then they are obliged to fix it, and quickly.
 
This only have to do with JAILBREAKING (using jailbreakme) not UNLOCKING. And this is because jailbreakme relies on the TIFF exploit, which was patched in 1.1.2. The TIFF exploit has nothing to do with unlocking nor has anything to do with the jailbreaking technique used in iNdepedence.

So..No, no one has confirmed that unlocking is broken on 1.1.2.

btw. @ Compile em all

If you cannot jailbreak, you cannot unlock yes? The unlocking procedure requires a 3rd party app on the iPhone does it not?

Yes, but if jailbreaking is broken it does not mean unlocking is broken. I mean, you may not be able to get the app into the phone at first, but once you do, it is possible that the unlock method works as it did with 1.1.1.
 
No kidding. Thats why I didn't wait around for Apple to do it. I used Apptapp and fixed it myself.

Not all iPhone users are as obviously l33t as you. Apple should patch the TIFF exploit, and they have. That's good, it shows they take security seriously.

If you want to stick at 1.1.1 and patch yourself that's ok too. You can still pretend to be a hacker.
 
Yes, but if jailbreaking is broken it does not mean unlocking is broken. I mean, you may not be able to get the app into the phone at first, but once you do, it is possible that the unlock method works as it did with 1.1.1.

Ageed. It requires jailbreaking first though, that is my point.
 
Is it not possible for people who buy 1.1.2 iPhones to use iNdependence to downgrade to 1.1.1 or 1.0.2 to get it jailbroken?

Also, do we know if the 1.1.2 firmware also disables the iNdependence method of "Activating" your iPhone to use iPod and Safari features?

Me hoping not!
(Apple - a love hate relationship) :rolleyes:

Anyone?
 
Hackers identified a hole and leveraged that security flaw to regain access and jailbreak phones and then closed that hole when they were done. How can people still complain that the hackers are doing something wrong? sounds like they are closing holes and putting apple on notice that these holes exist.:rolleyes:

Apple is doing what they are supposed to do for their non-3rd party customers to be "secure". It's just a pity that apologists cant distinguish Apple's security efforts from their inability to release any worthwhile apps that dont drain the user's wallet.
 
I am all for Apple finding a way to prevent people from hacking the phone. I get excited every time there's talk of phones getting "bricked" because the people who hacked the phone had it coming. Apple has every right to fight off hackers with new updates, and I give them my full support in their quest to screw over anyone who tries to mess with their product.

But you hacked yours...

I had some 3rd party apps installed via jailbreakme.com...

You make no sense whatsoever.
 
Personally I think Apple has a lot of nerve to continue harassing us in regards to our ringtones. If its not all about profits, why in gods name do they care. Even Steve Wozniak stated that we should be able add our own ringtones unhindered. To put it simply, I see it as all about profits, whether it comes from the RIAA or Apple's persistence in luring us into there damn iTunes store. I applaud Ambrosia, plz keep up the good work as you helping me make up for Apple's lack of decent ringtones on our iPhones. I am not updating, nor at this point do I hear of any specific reason to update, sorry Apple but my phone is working fine.

Don't fix what ain't broke...

That's the frustrating thing for us. I understand the security fixes; but iToner doesn't use any exploits or other nasty mechanisms for putting ringtones on your phone.

It'll be unfortunate if Apple really is intentionally breaking iToner with each release of their firmware. It sure smells like that about now.
 
Knowledge isn't dangerous? Knowledge isn't automatically dangerous, no.

Knowledge in the hands of people who like to harm, annoy, harass, or inconvenience people?

DANGEROUS!

This is so self evident, there really is no argument needed.

...

Hm, I see you must go to church a lot....

How did any of the 3rd party apps that Apple broke (to prevent threats to present and future revenue streams,) annoyed, harassed, or inconvenienced people? Particularly people like you, who didn't install any of these 3rd party apps (and probably don't know how to, anyway.)

Do you even know what you are talking about?

So afraid of Knowledge, and apparently you've never met her:)
 
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