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3 POINTS...

1) 2% seems wildly too low to be geographic related to 3G/non-3G areas, sorry, sounds like you're grasping at straws to support Apple blindly to me.

2) I'd like to know if the original iPhone had an INFINEON chipset & memory because I've never used a video card with INFINEON memory before that I didn't have trouble with and/or that didn't have to be downclocked or made to run slower than its specs. And no, my original iPhone does not have this problem.

3) If the # is much greater than 2%, this is gonna be REALLY bad news for Apple.

I don't think ibwb is blindly supporting Apple at all. He is saying that is is 2% (if that figure is accurate) of people who have these devices are having problems. We need more data to ascertain what percentage of the problem is due to hardware, software, usage profile, location and provider.

There seems to be more than one problem with these new devices. I am wondering with of these problems actually intersect and which do not.

I just got my new iPhone 3G a few days ago. At first, I was worried about the reports of these issues. I decided to get the phone anyway because I was fairly certain that the odds were high in my favor that I'd be happy with the new phone. So far, so good...

EVP
 
Wow! Everything feels faster, I'm eating healthier, and I'm jogging 3 times a week*.

(*estimate based on the fact that I didn't go jogging today)
 
do you really think they have control or know the serial number range of hardware problem devices ? Also if they did somehow release the serial number range, and the fact that in articles first posted about the company that's making these devices has or had poor quality control procedures, can you imagine the stampede at the Apple and AT&T stores to swap out iphones?

If Apple doesn't have the data on the serial# range, ATT should at least be able to compile the dropped call data tagged to specific phones, correct?

I realize this would take time, but even from the current complaints, Apple probably has a good idea of which phones and/or areas of which countries are most affected, meaning they probably have a good idea of the culprit too.
 
email sending from uk 3g

cheers for the info mate il have a look at it later and hopefully something will work out, thanks again, spencer.



Assuming you aren't using one of the default mail services (Google, MobileMe, etc), my hunch would be that the port on your send mail is blocked by AT&T, but not your ISP at home. Hunch #2: you setup email while on a wireless network instead of over the air.

Try: delete the mail account, go on to the 3G network (not WiFi), and set the account up again. When the phone tries to check the SMTP service it will probably come back with an error and ask if you want to try secure/SSL. Tell it yes. Once complete you can go back to WiFi. Hopefully that fixes things.

If that doesn't work:
On your phone, go to Settings - Mail - account you're having problem with.
Select the outgoing mail server (SMTP)
Primary server at top of page: select it (probably smtp.xxxxx.com)
Is the server port number 25? (don't know if 2525 gets blocked also?)

If yes, go to your mail provider and look for the "alternate port SMTP settings." Enter those settings back on the page you were just looking at. The port number is probably 587 or 465.
 
... Also, I am "part of the 2% minority."

However, I called apple and they scheduled an appt with me at the genius bar to get brand new phones tomorrow. me and my boyfriend both have problems... so im hoping we get phones from a "good batch."

Sorry to rain on your parade, but this is wishful thinking. If a software update is going to fix the problem, then the hardware is not the problem. When Steve Jobs said 2% of the phones were affected, he meant that 2% of the owners are affected, due to the city and 3G environment in which they reside. 100% of the phones contain the problem, but it only manifests itself 2% of the time.
 
Oh my god, people...

His point is: "it won't fix 3G connectivity most likely as iPod Touch has the 2.0.2 update as well.":D

I think we can all agree that we get his point: 3G will not be fixed since non-3G devices were updated as well.

The long, grueling point that seems to be dragging on and on (now contributing to that problem...) is that this is based on a flawed assumption.

Let's run a little thought experiment...

Suppose that Stevie called all of his engineers into one room and said, "We have two big problems that are more important than everything else - the 3G reception issue on the iPhone 3G and the Not-Suck-Bit was accidentally set to FALSE on all of the 3 platforms." Stevie then divides all those engineers into 2 groups and sends one group to work on the 3G issue and the other to work on the Not-Suck-Bit problem.

The 3G Reception Team toils day and night, working on a fix. Meanwhile, elsewhere in Cupertino, the Not-Suck-Bit Team reckons that this should be an easy fix since it only requires one line of code to fix it. They appoint Jerry The Not So Bright Engineer to execute the fix while they all head up to Tahoe for some much deserved R&R.

Jerry isn't a complete idiot so he figures out that he needs to add "Not-Suck-Bit = TRUE" to the code somewhere. Oddly, the problems persist and the testing guys and gals (who didn't get to go to Tahoe because people are mean to testing engineers) report that the fix doesn't work. Jerry tries to call the other engineers for advice but perversely because of the 3G reception issue no one has any bars at Tahoe and his calls go straight to voicemail.

A full week passes and the engineers all return from Tahoe an hour before the next big staff meeting with Stevie expecting Jerry to have fixed the problem. They are shocked to find that the problem still persists. Someone pushes Jerry away from his workstation, does a quick Find on all the instances of "Not-Suck-Bit" and discovers that Jerry forgot to remove all the instances of "Not-Suck-Bit = FALSE" that are peppered all throughout the code in routines like SyncQuickly(), SearchContactsEfficiently(), KeepSafariFromFreezing(), DisplayCalendarWithoutHosingExchange(), DontCrashAllMyThirdPartyApps(), DontLocateMeInAustinTexasWhenILiveInOregon(), etc.

A mad flurry of keyboard activity later, the offending code is removed and the new build is sent off to the test team. Everyone meets in the staff lounge for the update meeting and Stevie says, "Well, a week has passed, where are we?"

The 3G Reception Team says, "We've isolated the problem, sir, and spent hours recoding parts of the modem and baseband, blah, blah, meow, meow.... The problem is now fixed and ready to be released to our doting customers." The Not-Suck-Bit Team, all with non-characteristic impressive tans, report that they, too, have fixed the problem and are ready to release the fix to the world.

Stevie says, "That's great. Let's roll these up into one release, label it mysteriously as Bug-Fixes, and release it first thing tomorrow."


Now.... reading comprehension test time: Based on that scenario, isn't it at least plausible that the 3G Reception issue might be fixed and bundled in with other fixes that affect all the platforms? Remember, the release notes DID say that it contained "Bug-Fixes," not "Bug-Fix."

Phew... Don't we all feel a little better after clearing that up?
 
after about 4 hours of the first "backing up" :)eek:) it then took another hour as iTunes said all my apps needed to be updated...
finally after that, my icons appeared to be all jumbled randomly everywhere..

why the funk can't they just STAY IN THE SAME PLACE :mad:

anyway... after about 5 mins of playing, it does *seem* like the contacts lag has been reduced slightly, as yesterday, i was having to wait about 5-6 seconds to search, and today i only have to wait 2ish seconds.. but that could also be down to restoring the software etc...
 
had some pretty bad reception at home before, mostly 1 bar - improved greatly with 2.0.2, got 4 bars now most of the time....also didn't have any dropped/bad quality calls since the update, as opposed to pre 2.0.2!

Hey, is this with the new phone or the original? Just wondering, I have the 2 g
edge phone and reception is spotty at my house but pretty good elsewhere!:(
 
This notion that the problem, whatever it is, affects some units and not others, is entirely unsupported by the evidence. The 2% figure, if accurate, obviously does not mean that 2% of phones are broken, but rather that the problem affects approximately 2% of total users. There is a great deal of evidence that some of this is geographical; especially that users in very densely covered areas are the most affected.

I disagree with that; I've not seen any real evidence to suggest that the problem is geographic, however there does seem to be anecdotal evidence that:-

1. The 3g iPhone has generally inferior 3G reception to other comparable handsets,

2. The problem seems worse in cells which are expected to be busy.

Because UMTS radio system (3G) uses direct-sequence spread spectrum, other users on a frequency appear to the iPhone as increased background noise.

The 3G radio will have a threshold signal-to-noise ratio, below which it will deem the 3G network to be unavailable, and switch to GSM.

It's possible that this SNR threshold is a little too pessimistic, and the phone is switching to 2G when it doesn't really need to.

Also, a lot of people seem to be finding that a handover from UMTS to GSM drops a call; perhaps this is a radio firmware issue. It's certainly possible, and normal, to handover a call.
 
Updated my 16GB 3G. Love the new "none of the apps boot" and "all your media is invisible features". Oh wait, no... they aren't new are they?

Restoring my iPhone YET AGAIN. If it's not fixed in 2.1 I'm going back to cassettes, LCD games and payphones.

Thank God. Someone else with the same problem. This happens after I shut down the iPod touch completely, not standby. I went to the Genius bar and they have no idea why it's doing this. I have another appointment tomorrow since it is in that sate now so they can see whats going on.

All these 200+MB iPod touch updates are taking up my HDD. Can I delete the previous updates without affecting anything in a negative way? If so, where on my Mac do I go to delete them?

All Democrats raise taxes. All Republicans starts wars. If the Republicans didn't start pointless wars, the Democrats wouldn't have to raise taxes.

How small is your hard drive? I haven't noticed any impact on my storage.

As for your signature, a little fact finding of what wars began under which presidents administration:

Mexican-American War - Polk(D)
Civil War- Lincoln(R)
Spanish-American War - McKinley(R)
WWI - Wilson(D)
WWII - Roosevelt(D)
Korean War - Truman(D)
Vietnam - Kennedy/Johnson-push(D)
Gulf War Pt. 1 - Bush(R)
Bosnia - Clinton(D)
Gulf War Pt. 2 - Bush(R)

Pretty even split if you ask me.....
 
If my contacts start to lag after a few hours of using my iPhone I have found that turning it off and then turning it back on will fix the problem every time
It dosn't require a hard reset by holding both sleep and hold buttons, it only needs a simple reboot. It seems as though after a few hours/days the os is allowing some extra processes to be clogging up the pipes in the background or something..... This iPhone os is becoming more like windows every day....I guess we need a task manager so we can kill the unwanted processes.

I'm running 2.0.1...... Havn't had the guts to update to 2.0.2 yet.
 
Have they fixed the bug where when typing your password, the last entered character is visible? I don't know if that is by design or not but it kind of worries me.
 
Have they fixed the bug where when typing your password, the last entered character is visible? I don't know if that is by design or not but it kind of worries me.

I don't think it's a bug, I think it's to let you verify that you typed the right character.
 
Fixed my issues. Maps is working again for me and Notes doesnt take 2 minutes to respond. I like it.
 
Have they fixed the bug where when typing your password, the last entered character is visible? I don't know if that is by design or not but it kind of worries me.

That's a common feature in mobile/PDA land, not a bug...because the keys are a little small, it flashes up the key pressed so you know whether you hit what you thought you did and can correct accordingly, without having to type in the entire password again after the server tells you that you got the wrong password (and potentially make the same error, rinse, repeat, until server says "your account has been locked")
 
thats not a bug, if you make a type you need to be able to see it since its very easy to type with the virtual keyboard.
 
Well I now get 3G reception in my office (in NYC) where I did not before. Too bad that I get the error "Cannot connect to server" when using safari and Mail never connects.

Yeah.. sweet update:eek:


I haven't even updated my iphone to 2.01 yet and I just started to have those problems with my mail. Safari is still good. A coworker said that I should update my phone. So apparently he isn't having problems with the current update.
 
Just Updated

My 3G iPhone apps did not crash but still did not fix my 3G reception, but at least they fixed the keyboard lag... :cool:
 
Nope (from my 2.0.1 phone):

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My version is still at 2.0 and I have databases on mine. So nope it is definitely not new. :p
 
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