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I'd love to know what Nokia phone you were using.

My last 4 phones (N70, N6680, N6600, N7650) were all Nokias, and none of them were even remotely as responsive as my iPhone. I'm thrilled to see the back of them.

A nokia 6310i. It was great, I could make a phone call on a phone, without any lag or crashes and it had a battery life of about a week.

I know its an old phone and its not really comparative to an iphone in form or function, but I'm just so disappointed in the current software for the iphone. Its like when you know something could be great, but the details are muddying the overall quality.
 
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apps still crash!!!! After update arrrrrrrrrrh
 
Honestly, why does it feel like, at least for me, that with every new update (2.0.1 and 2.0.2) things progressively get worse and worse. 2.0 itself worked better for me than either update has right now lol.
 
Today I gave the iPhone 3G (with 2.0.2 update) a test and used it for various things while in a car being driven for about an hour outside of Vancouver. I was able to make 2 phone calls without being dropped. Checked and sent 3 emails. Browsed a few websites, and sent a text message.

The only problem was the slow loading pages while browsing, but, everything else worked perfectly. So, I guess my carrier Rogers has pretty decent 3G coverage here.
 
iBrick

Well last night my phone nuked itself. I first noticed a problem when I went into the iPod functions and found I had no music despite iTunes confirming I had 10 gigs of music installed. How nice. Then all 3rd party apps stopped working. Reboots fixed nothing.

Went to restore from last backup taken the day before when 2.02 happened. Backup corrupt! So typical. Why can't Apple get their acts together aroudn this issue? Backups take forever and are still corrupt?

Nuked, reinstalled everything again. I am running about 120 apps so I am guessing Apple never tested such a load. Which brings me to another issue, I have passed 144 at some point which is the max allowed. 145 apps will install but the icon for 145 will not display until after you delete 144. How stupid of a bug is that?

iPhone 3G w/ 16 megs
 
So I finally got 2.0.2 installed on the iPhone, but now EVERY time I connect it I only get the choice of 'Restoring from backup' or 'Set up as a new device'...

I am sick and tired of these 2.x releases, back to 1.1.4 for me!!!
 
A little off topic, but if I want to upgrade to this firmware from a PC (my powerbook is down at the moment, power cable failed and waiting on a new one), will it wipe all of my songs etc from the iPhone? The PC has no music or anything on it so I can't reload.

Cheers.
 
shot put

Hey, I have an idea...

Remember that first Apple commercial that had that female athlete throwing something into a giant 1984 Big Brother screen and shattering it?

And you know those GIANT glass windows in the fronts of Apple stores? I'm sure you do since many of us stood in line right next to them... wasting several hours of our lives to pay good money for a POS. But, I digress ;-)

Howz about we all tether these cheap plastic POS iphones to an actual brick and shot-put them all at some given time into those giant Apple store windows? You know... kind of a symbolic rebellious gesture of breaking free from "Big Brother".... just like that first, cute Apple commercial. ;-)
 
2.0.2 sux!!!

i cant keep a steady 3g signal at my house. it switches to edge and even gprs!!!

i had a 2g iphone for a year before this phone and it never went to gprs. I didnt even know what the gprs icon looked like until 2.0.2

i am sick of backwards updates:mad:
 
i cant keep a steady 3g signal at my house. it switches to edge and even gprs!!!

i had a 2g iphone for a year before this phone and it never went to gprs. I didnt even know what the gprs icon looked like until 2.0.2

i am sick of backwards updates:mad:

I've been having the same exact problem as you! Last night, outside my apt, i saw my phone go from full 3G to full edge to no service then up to half 3G. Even then the 3G wasn't doing anything until i rebooted the phone. Then while inside my apt, I dropped a call 3 times because of the 3G to edge handoff.

I'm in the DC area...anymore washintonian experiences from this thread?

I never had these problems before 2.02. I even noticed 2.0.1 was a little wonky, but not this bad. I've been an apple user and evangelist for over 6 years now, but iphone 2.0 really has been pissed off, to the point of perusing at&t's blackberry selection right now...
 
My Experience to Share

Well... I said I'd post back- so here is my experience! :D

~ Just remember I have the 1st Gen. iPhone. ~

I downloaded the update and backed up my iPhone the night it came out in less than a half hour. Update went successfully.

I've seen a great improvement in speed and responsiveness. I have not seen Safari crash yet and scrolling and zooming is much smoother. Additionally, none of my app. store applications have crashed.

Typing is a little less laggy, but it still lags on. It can be a really frustrating for me sometimes since I am a fast iPhone typer.

Maps seem to be more accurate and provides information faster.

When I am on WiFi at my house, I do not get kicked off as much as I did. Before when I was in my room, I'd keep getting knocked off WiFi and would have to always try to connect again. Now the WiFi isn't that much of an issue.

The latest problem for me (it doesn't bother me too much) is that I've noticed if I do some heavy duty stuff on the iPhone with music playing at the same time, the music sometimes starts to lag or stall for about three seconds, but then all is good after those three seconds with the music. I find it odd, because my music never did this weird behavior before when I had 1.1.4...

Reception I really can't tell a difference. I've seen it to be always different. Where my home is, it's not in a great area for reception, but I can make calls ok.
One day in my room I will have 3 bars, then the next day I'll have one. It's odd. Of course when the thing is on the dock it flies up to five bars. But I really don't feel like talking to someone with my phone on the dock... :eek: Once in a power outage, I had to talk with my iPhone on the dock next to the window crouched in a ball just to get a bar.

Every day my reception acts different...

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Mainly, I have to say that reception has been my biggest bother with the iPhone. I paid $400 for the phone, and I pay about $70 a month for service. I expect to get some decent service usage with it. But it makes me a little annoyed when I get five bars outside of Walmart, and I walk into the store and get nothing... not even a bar. And then I see all those happy Americans talking away on their cheap $50 phones opposed to me paying a good amount for a phone and cell service, and I can't even talk! :confused:

Hey, when I need the phone the most, I get no service. When I don't need it, sure, I get 5 bars in a heartbeat.

But as a lot of people have said, this update probably isn't a fix for reception issues, and I agree to that. Hopefully a future firmware update soon will do some reception fixings and fix other bugs and problems that people are having

Overall, I've had good luck with every single iPhone firmware update that has come out. I definitely feel for those who do not have success.

I guess everything with technology can't be perfect... ;)

So that's my $0.02!
 
A nokia 6310i. It was great, I could make a phone call on a phone, without any lag or crashes and it had a battery life of about a week.

I know its an old phone and its not really comparative to an iphone in form or function, but I'm just so disappointed in the current software for the iphone. Its like when you know something could be great, but the details are muddying the overall quality.

Weird - I've had my share of problems with the iPhone (had to restore 3 times, some apps used to crash a lot, 3G coverage is patchy), but am willing to tolerate these mostly because the interface is so much quicker (as well as intuitive) than Symbian on my old Nokias.
 
Are you being serious? That is the sole observation from which you then deduce that your iPhone must be faulty? Are you even in a decent 3G coverage area? Have you even compared the reception to another UMTS Phone running on AT&T's 3G network? In more than one location? I hope that this is more a case of leaving information out of your post than the alternative..

I'm based in Cork city centre, which should have excellent 3G coverage.

I also find it odd that by I can get 3G coverage by turning 3G off and on again (or by turning airplane mode on and off).

But, you might have a point. It's occurred to me that many people will be using their phones a LOT more for data than before, so if there is any issue with patchy network coverage, it is going to be highlighted by using the iPhone. Hence it's POSSIBLE (can't emphasise that word enough) that some of the 3G issues are down to the fact that several 3G networks are being hit & tested harder now than ever before.
 
I miss the IGNORE button from Usenet.

poor thing! no sense of humor eh? :cool:

ps... I'd like to see what YOUR demeanor/attitude would be after 3 iphone exchanges in 10 days.... 30hrs of troubleshooting... 26 restores.... 3hrs on the phone with a Nigerian Apple tech support who barely speaks English, who then "drops your call" and no-one bothers to call you back forcing you to call back in and start from scratch with your miserable iphone 3g story... spend an hour at ATT counter for SIM switch and tech support... 7hrs at the "genius" bar....

and.... you still can't send or receive emails, and after a recent "bug fix" install... everything that had finally started working properly, goes to crap. Tell me that wouldn't send you over the edge chief.
 
So I finally got 2.0.2 installed on the iPhone, but now EVERY time I connect it I only get the choice of 'Restoring from backup' or 'Set up as a new device'...

I am sick and tired of these 2.x releases, back to 1.1.4 for me!!!

Just do restore from backup and chose the backup your phone just made. i promise it will work. it scared me too.
 
Has anyone noticed a difference in mail? Mine now no longer wraps text. I also had to restore my phone, so it's possible that's a setting I forgot to reset, but I don't remember having to do that before.
 
Just do restore from backup and chose the backup your phone just made. i promise it will work. it scared me too.

I've done it three times now, that's the problem, anytime I want to sync my iphone now I have to restore it first, retarded.
 
I've done it three times now, that's the problem, anytime I want to sync my iphone now I have to restore it first, retarded.
same prob here :p for some reason there was two other restore dates a 15 min apart from each other. I gave up and just started a new one. of course with all that bs I had re-import all my apps, tunes,videos and etc... the last two days reminded me of Windows 98 :p
 
So far so good, i havent had any troubles with lagging keyboard and everything is still snappy!!

Also i noticed that you can now update the dictionary! yeehaw :)

( correction it also remembers the stuff from before the update when you canceled the suggested word !!!!!! )
 
Well last night my phone nuked itself. I first noticed a problem when I went into the iPod functions and found I had no music despite iTunes confirming I had 10 gigs of music installed. How nice. Then all 3rd party apps stopped working. Reboots fixed nothing.

Went to restore from last backup taken the day before when 2.02 happened. Backup corrupt! So typical. Why can't Apple get their acts together aroudn this issue? Backups take forever and are still corrupt?

Nuked, reinstalled everything again. I am running about 120 apps so I am guessing Apple never tested such a load. Which brings me to another issue, I have passed 144 at some point which is the max allowed. 145 apps will install but the icon for 145 will not display until after you delete 144. How stupid of a bug is that?

iPhone 3G w/ 16 megs

I have this same problem on my Touch. Try restoring but loading no apps. See if the problem remains.

The first sign mine is doing this is when apps stop launching. Then the iPod can't find the music and movies.

I've been to the genius bar and they have no idea what to make of it.
 
Weird - I've had my share of problems with the iPhone (had to restore 3 times, some apps used to crash a lot, 3G coverage is patchy), but am willing to tolerate these mostly because the interface is so much quicker (as well as intuitive) than Symbian on my old Nokias.

The nokia 6310i does not use symbian os.

I'm not sure what it is, probably a proprietary nokia os, but thats not important.

The point I was trying to make is that the iphone does a lot, but struggles to do the basic function of making a phone call.

Typical problem is I select the phone icon, wait 2 seconds, select contacts wait 2 seconds, try and scroll the contacts, wait a second, and then I can select a number and make a call.

Don't get me wrong the phone is ( or could be, and even was with 1.1.4 ) great, the software is currently a joke.
 
The nokia 6310i does not use symbian os.

I'm not sure what it is, probably a proprietary nokia os, but thats not important.

The point I was trying to make is that the iphone does a lot, but struggles to do the basic function of making a phone call.

Typical problem is I select the phone icon, wait 2 seconds, select contacts wait 2 seconds, try and scroll the contacts, wait a second, and then I can select a number and make a call.

Don't get me wrong the phone is ( or could be, and even was with 1.1.4 ) great, the software is currently a joke.

Fair enough, that's probably the difference. More recent Symbian phones probably are actually more sluggish.

I too have noticed there's a lag when opening the iPhone's phone "app", moving from tabs to tab, though it does seem to get cached so subsequent launches are much zippier. It's still better than my old Nokias, so I'm still happy.
 
Inside the apple store, we had PERFECT reception, kind of like the store had its own tower. However, once we left, the phones' service dropped significantly, leaving us now with <3 bars at any given location.

THe Apple Stores have 3G cell phone repeaters in them. The one in Northbrook Ct outside Chicago has GREAT reception inside the store, but in the mall just a few yards out it drops off considerably. When I was in the store asking about a fix for the Black Screen of Death issue, the Genius told me some of the stores with poor reception got the repeaters to be sure they activate properly in-house.
 
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