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iPhone Firmware 2.0.2 Released

Walmart Syndrome

andreab35 said:
Mainly, I have to say that reception has been my biggest bother with the iPhone. I paid $400 for the phone, and I pay about $70 a month for service. I expect to get some decent service usage with it. But it makes me a little annoyed when I get five bars outside of Walmart, and I walk into the store and get nothing... not even a bar. And then I see all those happy Americans talking away on their cheap $50 phones opposed to me paying a good amount for a phone and cell service, and I can't even talk! :confused:
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This Walmart Syndrome is not an iPhone issue. This is an inherent problem with GSM. GSM signals do not penetrate walls as well as CDMA signals for whatever reason. Those people happily talking inside a Walmart on their cell phones are definitely not on a GSM carrier. You will have the issue whether you have an iPhone or a Nokia phone. Something to do with the large metal structure around you. You will see this problem if you are in a Walmart or a Home Depot or a Sams Club or inside a similar structure.
 
2.02 Patch

Any easy way to test your connectivity is to see how long the iPhone will hold an internet audio stream. I have no issue at home with wi-fi but without wi-fi it will barely hold a stream for 30 seconds.

Also, has anyone noticed that you cannot leave the Pandora or Tuner apps and go to the main screen without losing the music connection?
 
Whether it's the iPhone or AT&T's network really doesn't matter to me anymore. I'm dropping calls left and right, inside and outside, and reception sucks inside of buildings (including my house). I absolutely love the iPhone but the reception is so unreliable, that I'm unfortunately seriously considering going back to Verizon just so I can actually make a phone call. Ugh.

For what it's worth, my wife's RAZR2 generally works fine, has good 3G reception, and rarely drops calls. And we're both on AT&T's network. Verizon does have far better coverage in my state, but making a call shouldn't be a recurring problem in an area with supposedly good to excellent coverage.
 
hotshotharry said:
So far so good, i havent had any troubles with lagging keyboard and everything is still snappy!!

Also i noticed that you can now update the dictionary! yeehaw :)

( correction it also remembers the stuff from before the update when you canceled the suggested word !!!!!! )
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UMMMMM seems to be intermittent at best :-(
 
yeah....

skiphunt said:
Hey, I have an idea...

Remember that first Apple commercial that had that female athlete throwing something into a giant 1984 Big Brother screen and shattering it?

And you know those GIANT glass windows in the fronts of Apple stores? I'm sure you do since many of us stood in line right next to them... wasting several hours of our lives to pay good money for a POS. But, I digress ;-)

Howz about we all tether these cheap plastic POS iphones to an actual brick and shot-put them all at some given time into those giant Apple store windows? You know... kind of a symbolic rebellious gesture of breaking free from "Big Brother".... just like that first, cute Apple commercial. ;-)
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Don't like it, then don't buy it. Why do so many people think Apple owes them a certain kind of experience? Why don't you just return the phone?

I assume this was an attempt at humor or possibly satire, but it misses the mark.
 
26139 said:
Don't like it, then don't buy it. Why do so many people think Apple owes them a certain kind of experience? Why don't you just return the phone?

I assume this was an attempt at humor or possibly satire, but it misses the mark.
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Sorry, but Apple has a reputation to live up to. WE pay MORE for Apple products because in the past... they were worth it. AND, the customer service was top notch.

Then comes along this iphone experience. Sorry friend, but Apple has sorely dropped the ball. I expect MORE from Apple and I've always paid more for it. If it were some no name Korean company hawking cheap Chinese knock-offs.... then I'd say I get what I pay for. BUT, we PAY through the nose for Apple's reputation.

And yes... I'm keeping the faith a couple more weeks... and if the problems have not been resolved... I will do EXACTLY as you suggest... take my phone back and not buy Apple again.

Oh and sparky... to answer your question "Why do so many people think Apple owes them a certain kind of experience?" BECAUSE I waited in line two days in a row.... I paid $300+ for an iphone 3g that Apple advertises as being "twice as fast, etc." And I signed an agreement to pay and extra $30 a month for two years. For this... I think Apple owes me a freakin' iphone 3g that'll at least do what they claim it will.. and not cost many, many lost hours in trouble shooting and phone exchanges. An iphone 3g that does what Apple claims it will do and live up to their reputation of quality product that's elegantly designed, simple to use, and stellar customer service.

How is THAT too much to ask for?
 
No voicemail!

I have an Edge iPhone. When I updated to the latest firmware 2.0.2 I lost the ability to access my voicemail. I get NO error message on the phone. I can playback old messages I haven't deleted. But no new messages show up in the box! I have to call from a landline to play them!
Is this a coincidence or is anyone else having this problem???


Update:
Now suddenly my voicemails are appearing. I don't know what fixed it, but it lasted about 5 hours. Now it works fine.
 
26139 said:
Why do so many people think Apple owes them a certain kind of experience?
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Are you saying people shouldn't expect quality service from their cell-phone?

I loved my original iPhone and love my 3G iPhone but the reception on both were incredibly average at best. Dropped calls are apparently a big problem with the 3G and people with an iPhone have a right to complain and complain bitterly if their phones are dropping often.

When the iPhone problems are fixed, the massive amount of complaints will stop.

So instead of going after the people issuing the complaints, fixing the actual problem will be much more beneficial for the company
 
I just did the 2.0.2 update an hour ago, hoping that it might help hold the 3G signal a bit better, but the opposite happened.

In my home, I now get "No Signal" where I once got 1 or 2 bars of 3G and it seems to refuse to drop down to Edge.

I've now forced the phone off 3G and get 5 bars and excellent data connectivity, albeit slower.

I'm disappointed, to say the least. I'm not sure what recourse I have, if any.
 
Original iPhone with 2.0.2

Performed the update today.

Got the "2.0.1 iphone could not be update unknown error occurred (9)"

But I just pulled the USB cable and plugged it back in, and good to go.


I have 328 contacts. Hit contacts after the update, and there's about a 1 second delay then the scrolling works really good. Better I think than 2.0.0 or 2.01.

SMS app seems faster too, and typing seems faster where before it would lag upon hitting the spacebar searching it's dictionary to see if what I typed was spelled right.



I did notice maybe something different between at least 2.0.1 and this 2.0.2. I have a playlist that I have both music and music-videos in. I started the playlist in iPod and it was playing just a music file, then I home paged back to the main screen and went into something like mail or safari. Then, as expected, a song played in the list that I know has a video on it, curious I went back to iPod, then music paused for a sec and then the video picked up right where it briefly paused. I remember in 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 that the video when you went back in didn't play, just the music part.

I'll test tonight on my wife's 2.0.1 3G 16gig white iPhone and double check.


Later
 
3g Worse for me now.

Ok so i click on Appstore and we wait and wait and either it says can not connect to appstore or the apps list but no icon pics it just spins and spins same with safari and other apps. so i turn off 3g and the appstore icons pop right up. then i turn 3g back on and it kicks but for a while. like as we speak i just got can not connect to itune store. so touched features it started loading and id say came up no faster than edge.tuned off 3g and edge worked great turned 3g back on and much better again. I did not have these issues untill this update itune store always connected and safari pretty much always did too.:confused:
 
retroneo said:
I have to say I hadn't seen No Service before (over a month). I have seen it a couple of times since 2.0.2 already.
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Same here. Hadn't seen it since I got the phone 11 days ago. But, since 2.02... have seen it 3 times today.
 
yagrax said:
Are you using USB 1.0 or 2.0? USB 1.0 will not backup as quick.
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People still use 1.0? I haven't had to do that since I used my laptop from 2000. I have a MBP and my backups take forever. They did before I even had music or video on there. Now 50% of my space is used and most of the time I have to cancel the backup because I need to leave before it finishes.
 
Inconsistent Results From One User to Another

I've been holding off on updating my iPhone 3G based on the number of people who have reported actually experiencing a downgraded in 3G performance, even though most don't notice any change, and a few seem to have improvements.

If anyone knows much about 3G networks, I'm wondering if networks could possibly be configured differently from one cell tower to the next (even if owned by the same carrier). Is it then possible that the tweaks that are made in each firmware upgrade may only help with some tower configurations and not others?

If someone can confirm whether this is indeed possible it would be great if people started reporting their 3G performance (better, worse, or the same) after the upgrade, along with their location (perhaps start another thread).
 
AtariAge said:
I had this problem also, starting with the 2.0 firmware. The problem is related to having tons of pictures on your phone. I had 1,500 photos, and it would take seemingly forever to open the Camera app as well as to take pictures. It was so bad as to be pretty much unusable. I finally removed all the pictures on my phone and that "solved" the problem. This is certainly something Apple needs to address, but at least you can work around it by dumping the photos off your phone now and again.

..Al
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mine lagged from the very beginning, even when i didn't have any pictures.
do you know what might be wrong with it? mine is the 1st gen, 8 gb running on 2.0
 
skiphunt said:
Goody for you!!! But when I try to call Apple support... I wait on hold for 45mins... then get a Nigerian who can barely speak English. Then... none of the fixes work... then HIS freakin' phone drops MY call and nobody bothers to call me back!!!! Back to square one.

Also.... my update TOO seemed to go great just like you are reporting... just wait. My started to degrade all on it's own without me doing anything. I was smelling roses just like you are as of last night. After today.... I'm thinking Apple released this POS WAAAAAY before it was ready for primetime. Let us know how well your recovered updated phones are working this time tomorrow.
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Well, funny you should mention... all is technically good but email takes much longer to send/receive. Couldn't send today for about 2 hours. Had to text... Does Apple read these boards? Sheesh....
 
alexacker said:
Well, funny you should mention... all is technically good but email takes much longer to send/receive. Couldn't send today for about 2 hours. Had to text... Does Apple read these boards? Sheesh....
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yeah it's weird. i had nothing of note wrong with my 3g phone (other contacts lag, whatever), switching btw 3g/edge was fine, no dropped calls. i updated and while the calls seem ok, the mail thing is happening, seems to take forever to receive mail if at all. i'm coming from years of using HTC, symbian, etc. phones even when mobile OS's were really in their infancy, so i'm used to stuff, (and actually i really like symbian s60, my recent phone was an e61 which did everything this iphone does except US 3g, thinking of getting the e71 because the touch keyboard drives me nuts, though that's a preference, not a malfunction). but i'm hoping they fix stuff that just plain doesn't work.

one thing that drives me nuts that i'm used to doing–it seems weird that you can't quit out of an app. are they just always running in the background? in fact, you can't even shut off the damn phone, really. just kind of put it to sleep. it seems weird, i'm used to, when something would crash you could just quit the app or at worst just power off and on. i miss that from s60–you know what's running (so you just go back to it quickly from the home screen and it's still running whatever you were doing), and you can quit out of it.
 
So since everyone was having wildly different experiences I decided to install the darn thing myself and get a first hand view...particularly since I'm comfortable downgrading back to 1.1.4 should things get unbearable

It's only been 6 hrs-ish but I don't have contacts lag nor keyboard lag either both in safari (typing this from the phone) and the SMS app (tried to recreate this by typing very quickly but it registered all taps no problem). Although Safari seems a tad slower at loading pages go figure. The whole OS still has that lethargic feel to it sometimes but mostly it responds

There's still a very annoying bug whereby the ringer volume reverts to less than half from any custom setting after a reset/reboot.

All my apps work without a hitch...I played crash and tris without any issues as does email. My signal is as always been...full bars

Overall it seems ok granted it's nowhere near 1.1.4 but it seems doable...for now

PS- I have an iPhone EDGE 16GB...if that matters

furrina said:
....one thing that drives me nuts that i'm used to doing–it seems weird that you can't quit out of an app. are they just always running in the background? in fact, you can't even shut off the damn phone, really. just kind of put it to sleep. it seems weird, i'm used to, when something would crash you could just quit the app or at worst just power off and on. i miss that from s60–you know what's running (so you just go back to it quickly from the home screen and it's still running whatever you were doing), and you can quit out of it.
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When you leave an app and go to the home screen it stops running there are currently no background processes allowed on the iPhone so once you exit you effectively quit the app. You can shut off the phone by holding the power button. To force quit an app hold down the home button.
 
iPhone SMS = Gimped

whooleytoo said:
Indeed, most phones give you a warning if the message is long enough to cost you double (or more). That's quite an oversight on the SMS functionality of the iPhone.
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Errm. Delivery reports and the ability to forward messages please. I agree that a counter is useful, but with free text bundle sizes being what they are is it really core functionality?

Edit - Oh, I suppose I should say for the record that apart from the cover flow transition I notice no difference at all after upgrading to the 2.0.2 firmware. I still experience the common annoyances that everyone else seems to experience, you'll forgive me if I don't post an identical screenshot.
 
2.02 actually improved the 3G reception with my phone. I live at the edge of 3G network, and before it was apparent, 3G dropping off constantly. Now, however it stays on all the time, bars going from 1 to 4, but it doesn't drop! Now, I can only wish there was an edge network around when 3G isn't...
 
daneoni said:
GE 16GB...if that matters
When you leave an app and go to the home screen it stops running there are currently no background processes allowed on the iPhone so once you exit you effectively quit the app. You can shut off the phone by holding the power button. To force quit an app hold down the home button.
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Thanks! The force quit thing is useful and sorta kinda fixes the mail problem sometimes.
The power button thing seems to only put the phone in some sort of purgatorious sleep mode (it's at the sleep screen when i touch it even when the power button's been hit.). Takes a bit of getting used to. Weird that it doesn't run the apps in the background. I kind of miss S60.
 
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