iPhone Fold to Feature Industry-First 24MP Under-Display Camera

[FyrStrike]

I don’t think Apple will use “fold” it sounds to cheap and old. I predict they will use “iPhone Ultra”. But we will see. And everyone knows Apple is fashionably late for one reason. They’ll do somthing that’s switchable like they did with the 1st gen and 10th gen iPhone.

 

[J.J. Sefton]

Starting at $1599...

 

[CATiNTHESTORE]

A constructive approach would be to consider developing devices that offer both options: those with front cameras and those without. This way, users can choose the device that best fits their needs.

I would be happy to through out front cameras in order to have a full screen without any holes

Cheers

 

[Haiku_Oezu]

Maybe it’s my bias but I don’t see Apple doing a foldable like, ever
They just feel so inelegant, I can’t imagine Apple shifting anything that has a crease in the display and a animare hinge mechanism that needs to operate behind a seamless display layer

Unless we develop some kind of Star Trek tier technology I just don’t see this particular form factor ever achieving the kind of elegance we expect from Apple’s designs

I’m not an engineer of course but foldables have been a thing since 2018 and the state of the art hasn’t really been revolutionized since and I don’t think it’s because nobody has tried yet

But I do hope I’m wrong! A foldable phone without the downsides sounds like a great device

 

[UltimaKilo]

I think you mean Android.

This is a conversation about hardware. What does Android have to do with it?

 

[The Game 161]

Maybe it’s my bias but I don’t see Apple doing a foldable like, ever
They just feel so inelegant, I can’t imagine Apple shifting anything that has a crease in the display and a animare hinge mechanism that needs to operate behind a seamless display layer

Unless we develop some kind of Star Trek tier technology I just don’t see this particular form factor ever achieving the kind of elegance we expect from Apple’s designs

I’m not an engineer of course but foldables have been a thing since 2018 and the state of the art hasn’t really been revolutionized since and I don’t think it’s because nobody has tried yet

But I do hope I’m wrong! A foldable phone without the downsides sounds like a great device

likely because the display they are using will basically be creaseless. as much as is possible thats why they are going this route.

Tech needs to move forward and apple is coming to market as the display quality, durability and thinness is finally at the stage where it's good enough to use

 

[Tim Jobs the 2nd]

This definitely gonna be a #gate. Thanks BETA users.

Apple needs to release a gate so we can get Gate Gate since everything they release is turned into a "gate" nowadays.

 

[AAPLbuyback]

Your understanding of business is top notch.

There is a huge foldable market or Apple wouldn't be getting in it. Do you think these companies are making them for the fun of it? Apple sees they are missing out on a huge profit generator for them which is why they are getting into the foldable business. If there was no profit behind it they would ignore it all together.

You have no concept of scale and you completely missed the point.

 

[clg82]

I'll believe it when I see it. It's vaporware right now and considering how horrifically late they are to the party I would hope that they do a foldable better than anyone has done thus far.

I don't want to have a "1st gen product that will see dramatic improvements in the future." Or "A good start for Apple in the foldable market." I want a lights out first gen product that crushes everyone else's foldable.

Then you'll be waiting a long time, this isn't the same Apple we once knew. Use Siri as an example, assistance have been out for nearly a decade and Apple still can't get THAT right.

 

[DMG35]

Then you'll be waiting a long time, this isn't the same Apple we once knew. Use Siri as an example, assistance have been out for nearly a decade and Apple still can't get THAT right.

Unfortunately I think you are correct, which is really saddening. Perhaps with some new leadership things can change though.

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

Far fewer people want the product that Apple is actually going to deliver than those who claim to want a hypothetical foldable.

And how do you know this? Do you have a crystal ball? Do you have some sort of in that none of us do with the rest of the entire country or world. I’ll anxiously await your response.

 

[frownface]

Resolution isn't the problem for under display cameras; all the phones that currently have them suffer from softness because it's literally shooting through pixels that'll never be as clear as optical glass.

 

[GioGiusi]

And how do you know this? Do you have a crystal ball? Do you have some sort of in that none of us do with the rest of the entire country or world. I’ll anxiously await your response.

It always amuses me when people pretend like we don't know what the product is going to be. Is this your first rodeo? Apple products are leaked very thoroughly in advance, especially iPhones. We know exactly what the foldable is going to consist of. And it's a wealth of compromise.

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

It always amuses me when people pretend like we don't know what the product is going to be. Is this your first rodeo? Apple products are leaked very thoroughly in advance, especially iPhones. We know exactly what the foldable is going to consist of. And it's a wealth of compromise.

Since you apparently already know everything about Apple’s foldable, why don’t you go ahead and bless us with the full specs sheet? Tell us what the phone’s going to be, every compromise, the hinge radius, panel lifespan, battery chemistry go on, I’ll wait.

If you’ve got it all figured out, let’s hear the intimate details. Otherwise, maybe pump the brakes on the ‘I already know everything’ routine.

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

Who cares? Without Face ID the thing is a total non-starter. Nobody wants an iPhone without Face ID. Fewer than nobody wants an iPhone with side button touch ID, which is the single worst user experience Apple has delivered yet. Don’t even think for a second that it’s an acceptable trade-off. I downgraded from an iPad Pro to an iPad Air a while back and even after using it for months and months I still want to throw the thing out the window every time I have to unlock it. It’s just such an awful UX.

Man, you sound really fired up about this and fair enough, Touch ID on the side button clearly wasn’t your thing. But saying “no one wants” it like you’re speaking for the entire world comes off a little… much. Not everyone hates it, and not everyone has the same experience you did. It’s totally fine to say you don’t like it, just maybe don’t project that onto millions of people who might feel differently.

 

[GioGiusi]

Man, you sound really fired up about this and fair enough, Touch ID on the side button clearly wasn’t your thing. But saying “no one wants” it like you’re speaking for the entire world comes off a little… much. Not everyone hates it, and not everyone has the same experience you did. It’s totally fine to say you don’t like it, just maybe don’t project that onto millions of people who might feel differently.

I wasn't offering an opinion, or asking for yours. Touch ID is factually worse than Face ID, and Touch ID built into the side button of a device is awkward, difficult to use, and far inferior to simply looking at your device. That isn't up for debate.

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

I wasn't offering an opinion, or asking for yours. Touch ID is factually worse than Face ID, and Touch ID built into the side button of a device is awkward, difficult to use, and far inferior to simply looking at your device. That isn't up for debate.

Oh perfect thank you for announcing that your personal opinion has now been promoted to objective universal fact. Truly impressive.

I didn’t realize user experience, ergonomics, and biometrics were all settled science the moment you declared them “not up for debate.” I’m finished here.

 

[The Game 161]

Oh perfect thank you for announcing that your personal opinion has now been promoted to objective universal fact. Truly impressive.

I didn’t realize user experience, ergonomics, and biometrics were all settled science the moment you declared them “not up for debate.” I’m finished here.

It’s funny everybody loved Touch ID end was mad it was removed for Face ID

Fact is Face ID isn’t really superior to Touch ID. In many cases it’s a downgrade from Touch ID. It’s next to useless on a table or a desk, sofa. You always have to pick the device up

Reality is the only downside to a foldable will be weaker cameras

 

[Lioness~]

It would be good if they offered both touch-id and face-id on same device, if and when we need better security.
Personally, the security is what matters to me - I have both face/touch-id and they both works on my devises.

 

[The Game 161]

It always amuses me when people pretend like we don't know what the product is going to be. Is this your first rodeo? Apple products are leaked very thoroughly in advance, especially iPhones. We know exactly what the foldable is going to consist of. And it's a wealth of compromise.

No telephoto is the only real compromise

It's going to be same everywhere else with

Better display for everything
Better muktiasking
Better for browsing
Better for app usage

Using touch ID makes the foldable far superior than pro or pro max when using on a table, sofa or desk. No longer do you need to pick it up all time to do basic checking or tasks

The hinge will be high quality like all recent foldables have now.

Price will be superior high and won't have a telephoto and main camera might not be a good as pros that's the downsides.

Not like iPhone cameras are amazing these days anyway. If you want your phone to be a 2 in 1 and better for day to day usage you get a foldable. Want cheaper then get the pros