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Also, I guess Apple will try to market something like iPadOS for the inner screen, but multitasking in such a small screen is ridiculous and terrible UX. I still think foldables are great, but there’s no need to overengineer it: a bigger inner screen is great to see more content, read more comfortably, etc. in fullscreen.

And on top of that, let’s add how iPadOS 26 destroyed multitasking on the iPad… something like the old Split View or Slide Over would have made a bit more sense for this device.
 
For you perhaps but then you’re not the one buying my iPhones are you? My Pro series collection are based on all my devices being in their max storage configuration, including my recently acquired 17 Pro Max.

You, or anyone else, for that matter don’t have to agree with how I choose the devices I place into my collection but then it’s not your money paying for them either . . . it’s mine. :apple:
Yes thats why i asked whats the reason. But u didn’t answer
 
Yes thats why i asked whats the reason. But u didn’t answer
I have always gotten my iPhones in their maximum storage configuration, my preference. This is the real reason why and as I have said in my response earlier to your comment, it’s my money that is spent and the device I want. There is really no discussion to add to “why” other than it is my choice to get my devices in their max storage configuration. Of course it will be expensive but at the end of the day even though my wallet is screaming, I’m happy.

I’m used to spending $$$ as I have expensive hobbies. Life is too short to compromise.
 
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Dealbreakers for me:
  • 1st generation product will be outdated quickly.
    • Think how fast the original iPad was outdated and quickly left behind. Think of how ridiculous the Vision Pro was as a first generation product. I prefer buying models that have been refined over generations and will have long lasting potential (iPhone 13 Pro Max -> iPhone 17 Pro Max, iPad Pro M4, etc).
  • Overpriced at $2000-$2500 for the base model.
    • Since I already have the 17 Pro Max and iPad Pro M4, I’d much rather put this in a low fee index fund gaining an average of 10% per year.
    • In addition to the high base price, price for AppleCare+ will be much higher.
    • I don’t like being taken advantage of by market forces as a consumer. With the “AI RAMpocalypse” driving up prices, I’m more than happy to wait out market forces over the next 3-4 years with my 17 Pro Max + iPad Pro M4 until the market hopefully stabilizes.
  • No real dust / debris resistance on the Z Fold 8.
    • Long term would have durability concerns without AppleCare+.
  • New toy feeling will quickly fade, as it always does.
    • In the end, it will run the exact same apps as any slab phone, simply will a different aspect ratio / screen size. 16:9 YouTube videos will be just a small amount bigger. “Multitasking” on the Z Fold 8 seems overrated to me and not worth double the price.
 
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The width when folded.

It makes it a very awkward one handed device (when using it folded).
Yeah, that could be a deal breaker (but maybe not as much for Pro Max users). Here are the measurements when folded:

17 Pro (per Apple):

Height - 150mm
Width - 71.9mm
Depth - 8.75mm

Ultra (per GSM Arena):
Height - 120.6mm
Width - 83.8mm
Depth - 9.2mm
 
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For you perhaps but then you’re not the one buying my iPhones are you? My Pro series collection are based on all my devices being in their max storage configuration, including my recently acquired 17 Pro Max.

You, or anyone else, for that matter don’t have to agree with how I choose the devices I place into my collection but then it’s not your money paying for them either . . . it’s mine. :apple:

Yeah but you're the one stating in all these threads that you're buying the maximum storage of all these phones.

If you're going to keep adding in that detail then expect to keep getting pushback.
 
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I’m potentially interested, but the rumored lack mag safe would almost certainly kill it for me. I use MagSafe almost exclusively to charge and in the car during a very long commute in a car without CarPlay.

Surprisingly, I think the lack of FaceID could be overcome, but it’ll have to be really compelling.
 
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Yeah, that could be a deal breaker (but maybe not as much for Pro Max users). Here are the measurements when folded:

17 Pro (per Apple):

Height - 150mm
Width - 71.9mm
Depth - 8.75mm

Ultra (per GSM Arena):
Height - 120.6mm
Width - 83.8mm
Depth - 9.2mm

Comparing my current phones to the iPhone Ultra & Samsung Z Fold8

Widths - Foldable's Closed:

71.9 mm - iPhone 16 Pro Max
72.8 mm - Z Fold 7

81.9 mm - Z Fold8
83.8 mm - iPhone Ultra

(source GSM Arena)


The Samsung Z Fold8 I just purchased for a family member provided the opportunity for me to try it, before passing it on.

My impression of the Samsung is it's useful but cumbersome. Notice that the iPhone Ultra is even fatter than the Z Fold8. Certainly not to my liking even though I have large hands and don't mind large phones.

One of the best aspects of my Z Fold7 is its width is only slightly more than my iPhone 16 Pro Max. It's quite comfortable to use day in and day out which I do for work. The tall narrow (as compared to Z Fold8 & iPhone Ultra) form factor suits my workflow ideally.

I will avoid the iPhone Ultra because of its fat rather cumbersome shape. A disappointing situation as I was looking forward to purchasing an Apple Foldable phone.
 
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Design is freaking fugly no face id and telephoto if Apple added this and make the leakers like idiot i'am probably take this atleast not more this price $2,3k.
 
I have been waiting for the gold. I was upset when we first heard rumors of it being wide, but have since accepted that this is likely the better option. I had originally wanted tall and square for the outside screen, but I think having a 4:3 aspect ratio on the inside screen is the better option.

I’m ok without faceID, I’d prefer it but understand that Apple wouldn’t include it on the outside screen and then double the components for the inside.

I rarely use my telephoto lens as is on my Pro Max. Just not a huge photographer. Apple will have a 2x like they do on the Air, so that should be fine.

MagSafe might make me think twice about it. I love MagSafe and I love nightstand mode. It’s what truly made me get rid of my actual physical alarm clock finally. So that will be a tough one to give up. I’d accept no MagSafe if Apple made a USB-C dock and I could leave the fold open and have that be the nightstand mode. But we’ll see.

Overall, as someone who constantly travels (3-4times per month) and who isn’t the driver ever, not having to take my iPad Pro or mini along and having a similar screen is what I’m most looking forward to. Mostly for media consumption.
 
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Face ID is easily one of the best iPhone features of the past decade. If the “Ultra” doesn’t have it, I’ll probably wait until it does, then possibly grab a used one at a discount
 
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I’m potentially interested, but the rumored lack mag safe would almost certainly kill it for me. I use MagSafe almost exclusively to charge and in the car during a very long commute in a car without CarPlay.

Surprisingly, I think the lack of FaceID could be overcome, but it’ll have to be really compelling.

Wait. No MagSafe!?

Ok. I’m definitely out.

I’m ALL IN on MagSafe now.
 
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I have been waiting for the gold. I was upset when we first heard rumors of it being wide, but have since accepted that this is likely the better option. I had originally wanted tall and square for the outside screen, but I think having a 4:3 aspect ratio on the inside screen is the better option.

I’m ok without faceID, I’d prefer it but understand that Apple wouldn’t include it on the outside screen and then double the components for the inside.

I rarely use my telephoto lens as is on my Pro Max. Just not a huge photographer. Apple will have a 2x like they do on the Air, so that should be fine.

MagSafe might make me think twice about it. I love MagSafe and I love nightstand mode. It’s what truly made me get rid of my actual physical alarm clock finally. So that will be a tough one to give up. I’d accept no MagSafe if Apple made a USB-C dock and I could leave the fold open and have that be the nightstand mode. But we’ll see.

Overall, as someone who constantly travels (3-4times per month) and who isn’t the driver ever, not having to take my iPad Pro or mini along and having a similar screen is what I’m most looking forward to. Mostly for media consumption.
For the record, even iPhones without MagSafe still have nightstand mode.
The iPhone 11 and SE, for example.
Also, I’ve said it before, but still even to this day, only two weeks before the event, there is absolutely no actual rumours saying that it won’t have mag safe. The only reason people keep thinking this is because of one dummy unit from back in February.
Of course it will have MagSafe, or at least you can guarantee it will have the 25W wireless charging, and you’ll be able to get a magnet case for it.
The magnets Apple uses are less than a single millimeter thick, and they literally just made a big deal that it’s on the 17e A couple months ago. It will be there.
 
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For the record, even iPhones without MagSafe still have nightstand mode.
The iPhone 11 and SE, for example.
Also, I’ve said it before, but still even to this day, only two weeks before the event, there is absolutely no actual rumours saying that it won’t have mag safe. The only reason people keep thinking this is because of one dummy unit from back in February.
Of course it will have MagSafe, or at least you can guarantee it will have the 25W wireless charging, and you’ll be able to get a magnet case for it.
The magnets Apple uses are less than a single millimeter thick, and they literally just made a big deal that it’s on the 17e A couple months ago. It will be there.
The Z Fold 8 has wireless charging. I’m hoping Apple will be able to pull off MagSafe.

My dealbreakers? *None*

Can’t wait to preorder this, haha!!
 
For the record, even iPhones without MagSafe still have nightstand mode.
The iPhone 11 and SE, for example.
Also, I’ve said it before, but still even to this day, only two weeks before the event, there is absolutely no actual rumours saying that it won’t have mag safe. The only reason people keep thinking this is because of one dummy unit from back in February.
Of course it will have MagSafe, or at least you can guarantee it will have the 25W wireless charging, and you’ll be able to get a magnet case for it.
The magnets Apple uses are less than a single millimeter thick, and they literally just made a big deal that it’s on the 17e A couple months ago. It will be there.
I would agree with that synopsis. For me, there is no dealbreaker; I could live with not having the Telephoto Lens or Face ID since I usually carry my real camera when I take a picture that requires a Telephoto lens, but if a Future Fold has the lens, then I would upgrade.
 
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- Bad camera system as a whole
- 1st gen
- Reliability has not been proven yet
- Does it flip into iPadOS in big screen mode ? Does it actually fully replace an iPad ? Like, fully, fully ? As in, it combines an entire iPad, this the higher price point ? (I don't think it will)

I absolutely cannot justify paying that much money because of all these things
 
Dealbreaker for me is the lack of telephoto lens. Missing out on FaceID too is a huge downside but something that I can get by. Price is definitely a concern but then always knew it was going to be very expensive. Unfortunately don't think a telephoto lens or FaceID is going to be available on an Apple fold anytime soon.
 
* too many moving parts (will break)
* not the best camera
Man, how did people ever survive in the before times? Some of my favorite things have moving parts!

Something else will always have a "better" camera. Physics sets the limitations; even a low end dedicated camera takes better photos. If they put the Pro camera on it a different group of people would be complaining it's too thick and the bump is too big 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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