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People keep acting like the iPhone Fold is somehow going to eliminate the crease entirely.

It won’t.

There will be a crease. Maybe it’ll be smaller than what we’ve seen on other foldables. Maybe it’ll be harder to notice in normal use. But there is no magic display technology that completely bypasses the physics of repeatedly bending a screen.

That’s why I still struggle with the idea of $2,500 device that has a visible and/or tangible crease running through the middle of the display. At that price, I expect a screen that feels uncompromisingly premium, not one with a built-in reminder that it’s folding.

The best part will come after launch. As soon as the first units arrive, MacRumors will be flooded with threads of people taking photos from every possible angle, under every lighting condition imaginable, trying to prove that the crease either exists or doesn’t.

“Can’t see it in normal use.”

“Look at it under a flashlight.”

“I can feel it.”

“Mine doesn’t have it.”

“It’s only visible at certain angles.”


We’re about to witness CreaseGate.
 
I don’t care about the minimal crease that you can’t really see when the phone is on. What I’m concerned about is the price difference over the Samsung Fold 8. I want to know what the $400/500 difference that the fold will have over the Samsung model other than the APPLE. Of course, that’s just speculation about the price will be
 
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It will be no different than the Galaxy or Pixel displays. They all have a crease, the ifold will too. it will be visible and you will feel it. There is no way around this unless you get a surface duo with two seperate displays. Best foldable ever made actually.
 
Samsung and other foldable manufacturers have been getting much better at minimizing the visibility of the crease, and more importantly, it is definitely less noticeable both to sight and touch with the latest foldables. the Fold 8 made me a believer, and I expect the new form factor to be a major disruptor in this year's sales. We may one day get to the point where we solve the bendable glass physics problem, but until then, these foldables get better every year.
 
I am old enough now to appreciate something built to be functional and practical, rather than beautiful and troublesome. Even it does have a crease I do not mind. My goal for purchasing the iPhone Ultra is to consolidate my iPhone and iPad Mini use at home so that over time I have better battery results several years down the line.

Right now my Mini takes the brunt of the charge cycles of my day to day device use since it is my most "general" device.

The Ultra will at least let me not worry about keeping my phone around me, which, sometimes, is a hassle when I don't have pockets.
 
My concern on the Ultra is how durable the folding screen will be? Will it scratch easier? I have no experience with folding phones so this is what I am looking at since I doubt you can put a screen protector onto a folding screen.
 
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My concern on the Ultra is how durable the folding screen will be? Will it scratch easier? I have no experience with folding phones so this is what I am looking at since I doubt you can put a screen protector onto a folding screen.
That is one of my main concerns too with the soft inner screen. One accidental nail mark and it’s permanently dented. I will get AppleCare but something like that won’t be covered.
 
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That is one of my main concerns too with the soft inner screen. One accidental nail mark and it’s permanently dented. I will get AppleCare but something like that won’t be covered.
Until the Ultra actually comes out and is evaluated by the many YouTube content creators . . . I may just wait until I see the reviews before deciding. I really have no use for a folding iPhone other than adding this into my private iPhone collection as this will be another milestone device in Apple’s history of iPhones.
 
I don’t care about the minimal crease that you can’t really see when the phone is on. What I’m concerned about is the price difference over the Samsung Fold 8. I want to know what the $400/500 difference that the fold will have over the Samsung model other than the APPLE. Of course, that’s just speculation about the price will be
Exactly, it’s just speculation.
The absolute top of the line galaxy Z-fold eight ultra is $2099, given that every other Apple phone is within $100 of its equivalent Samsung phone, that’s the price to look at.
Most of these analysts suggesting absolutely ridiculous pricing are doing it because they know one thing, it gets them clicks, which makes them money.
The actual smart thing to do would be to look at patterns.
When the iPhone X cost $999, it was introduced only a month after Samsung introduced their first $950 Galaxy note eight.
The current Galaxy S26 is within $100 of the iPhone 17.
The Galaxy S 26 ultra is actually $100 more expensive than the iPhone 17 Pro Max.

Samsung, google, all of the other foldables available in the US, all are priced right between about $1700 and $2100, this is the same window Apple is going to price theirs in.
Apple might be a premium brand, but they aren’t stupid. And if you look at their retail prices, they are all within the same brackets as their competitors. Even on their laptop space, the Dell XPS 16? $3000. The 16 inch MacBook Pro? $3000.

Apple isn’t going to see the galaxy Z fold eight, which has almost the same design as theirs, priced at $1900 and decide… You know what? $3000, that’s the sweet spot. It’s just not going to happen.

And I just know someone is going to come in and say some nonsense, like “but the Vision Pro!!!”… while completely ignoring the fact that Apple could only make half 1 million Vision Pros every year, and all of the other headsets that even came close to its capability and quality were also priced in the thousands of dollars range and usually targeted directly at the enterprise.
Apple has reportedly ordered 10 million folding screens for this thing, 10 million foldable phones is a lot of foldable phones. This tells me that the price is going to be very competitive with the other folding phones on the market. A very different situation.
 
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There will be a crease. Maybe it’ll be smaller than what we’ve seen on other foldables. Maybe it’ll be harder to notice in normal use.
Which begs the question, if you can’t see the crease in normal use, if when the display is on, it makes the crease practically invisible, if literally the only way that you can see the crease is by either looking at it with nothing on the screen, or contorting it to be at weird angles where you might be able to see it… Then what’s the problem?
$2000 or not, if it doesn’t create a situation where it’s impeding on using the device, it’s not a problem.
People spend thousands and thousands of dollars on MacBook’s, and while those are absolutely incredibly built, it’s not like there aren’t issues. It’s not like if you bend it far back enough, you can’t break the hinge, or have a situation where the lid isn’t quite flush with the bottom when closed. My current MacBook Pro has that issue, if you run your finger along the edge while it’s closed, you can tell that the lid and the bottom are just ever so slightly misaligned.
Who cares? It doesn’t affect my usage of the device.
I remember a previous MacBook Air that I had, where the trackpad gap between the palm rest and the pad itself was different on all four sides. It was almost completely flush on the right side, and yet there was a very noticeable gap between the left palm rest and the trackpad. And yet? It was still an incredible MacBook Air, it was the M1 model.
 
I don’t care about the minimal crease that you can’t really see when the phone is on. What I’m concerned about is the price difference over the Samsung Fold 8. I want to know what the $400/500 difference that the fold will have over the Samsung model other than the APPLE. Of course, that’s just speculation about the price will be
I think you answered the question..... it's Apple is the reason. LOL
 
MS had a crease free dual screen fold device. Strange that more didn't copy that idea. It's as crease free as it can be.
Are you referring to the Surface Duo? That was two separate connected screens with a clear physical border down the middle. No crease, but a constant divider in the middle that's ever present and obvious like the notch/pill. Imagine watching a video or movie with that bar in the middle, it would be too distracting.

The crease is not noticeable on a foldable because the brightness overcomes the reflections from the crease, unless you're tilting it at certain angles. When viewing the screen directly, as you normally do on a phone, the crease blends away. And you can still use a foldable when it's closed, like a slab phone there's no crease on the cover screen.

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That's difference between a forum poster and real world customers.

Real world customers aren't concerned about the crease, rather it's whether the device performs well. You see the same thing when some posters upload photos of microscopic scratches of their new iPhone and ask about returning it.
 
MS had a crease free dual screen fold device. Strange that more didn't copy that idea. It's as crease free as it can be.
It was so good to use and made sense. the single screen is not nearly as good to use. I don't watch videos on my phone, I do work. WIth the dual screens you could get work done much better.
 
Price will be the bigger determinant/deterrent than crease for someone considering a foldable iPhone. Some folks already pony up $2000 for the top-spec 2TB iPhone Pro Max so the iPhone Ultra won't be too much of a stretch, especially if you break it up into installments.
 
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Are you referring to the Surface Duo? That was two separate connected screens with a clear physical border down the middle. No crease, but a constant divider in the middle that's ever present and obvious like the notch/pill. Imagine watching a video or movie with that bar in the middle, it would be too distracting.

The crease is not noticeable on a foldable because the brightness overcomes the reflections from the crease, unless you're tilting it at certain angles. When viewing the screen directly, as you normally do on a phone, the crease blends away. And you can still use a foldable when it's closed, like a slab phone there's no crease on the cover screen.

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It wasn't built to watch content on, it was built to be productive. It's the best foldable design.
 
My concern on the Ultra is how durable the folding screen will be? Will it scratch easier? I have no experience with folding phones so this is what I am looking at since I doubt you can put a screen protector onto a folding screen.
Apple will likely follow Samsung's lead and apply a factory screen protector over the UTG (Ultra-Thin Glass).

I've used foldables exclusively since 2022 and haven't experienced any issues with scratches on the inner screen despite using S Pen and other stylus for writing meeting notes. I had to replace the factory screen protector on my Fold4 because it started to peel after 11 months, but the Fold5 and Fold6 didn't exhibit that issue and I had the Fold6 for 18 months before selling it. Samsung has continually refined and improved the hinge, UTG, and overall durability of foldables and Apple will benefit from that experience.
 
Apple is not dumb, they won't say the foldable display has no crease. Their marketing team will make it look like there's next to none using nice rendered pictures and fancy words (just like Samsung) but it will be there. In the box it will look pristine but the more you use the foldable display, the more visible/noticeable the display crease will be. I will only believe in magic crease-free foldable displays when they are confident enough to start shipping these displays folded (just like the flex cables in laptops).

From my experience I only notice the crease of foldable displays when in portrait mode (=when the crease is horizontal) because then you will always feel it with your thumb/finger on scrolling (vertically) and also see it on scrolling (vertically) through text e.g. a website as text visibly flows into the crease and out of it (which was way more noticeable on older foldable displays). This is not an issue in landscape mode (=vertical crease) where you will only notice the crease in VOD apps like Netflix where you often have to scroll horizontally. I also stay away from dark mode because then the crease is visible all the time whether the screen is on or off.
 
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