Other iPhone Fold Will Have a Crease

[Skwoodge]

Source: "Trust me bro."

I honestly don't know what to expect. But making declarations before it's revealed is a bit odd.

 

[klasma]

It’s how so-called glare-free TVs still have reflections.

Furthermore, I don’t think that Apple will advertise the Ultra as crease-free.

Lastly, consumers have been buying crease-y foldables for many years, the current flagships being around $2000 as well. Nevertheless they sell.

 

[Wizec]

For me, the biggest issue is the soft screen that will be easily scratchable. Crease or not, the fact that dust and fingernails can and will scratch the screen makes it a complete non-starter.

 

[fabianrain]

Source: "Trust me bro."

I honestly don't know what to expect. But making declarations before it's revealed is a bit odd.

Check out the Samsung Fold8 devices at your local retailer. This is probably the 'cutting-edge' foldable display technology for this year. Samsung is the only one making these displays and for their hinge/crease design they can use 7 years of real-world experience collected from all sorts of people (from retail units, rma units, customer/reviewer feedback) while Apple can only do secret lab testing on a completely new product category right now (which didn't always turn out to be great in the recent past).
But you are right, it's still a guess.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

It's inevitable.

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From photos I've seen, the pixels also tend to fail in the crease area.

Also delamination.

It's just a silly idea IMO.

iPhone fold gonna have the shortest usable lifespan of all iPhones to date.

It would be wise to purchase Applecare for this phone.

You know that’s a picture of a galaxy fold from four years ago, right?
This is the problem with the foldables are bad screamers and shouters on this website, all of their anecdotes, photographs, random ramblings are from foldables that are from like four, five, seven years ago.
At least use an example of a foldable released in the last 18 months to compare to the iPhone fold that… hasn’t even been announced yet.
Just for comparison, when that fold in the picture was released, Apple was still selling a MacBook Pro with a touch bar.
Imagine me making a post today to tell everyone not to ever, ever buy a MacBook Pro because they have a touch bar, and then you post a picture of the one that came out four years ago. You wouldn’t be taken very seriously.

 

[Macalway]

You would expect crease behavior from plastic, but I'm not sure WHAT these are made out of.

 

[Macdude2010]

For me, the biggest issue is the soft screen that will be easily scratchable. Crease or not, the fact that dust and fingernails can and will scratch the screen makes it a complete non-starter.

This is also my main holdup with considering a folding phone, even if I really like the idea of having an iPad size screen in my pocket…

 

[Berti10]

Its marketing, like those bezelless TVs way back when, that had 5mm+ bezels.

 

[minik]

Oh please!

 

[Klae17]

Caption Obvious is obvious.

 

[OldNewMBP]

And for those that questions how would a case go onto the iPhone Fold:

I think that Google,

and Samsung both managed to do it.
🤷‍♂️

 

[NeonNights]

You would expect crease behavior from plastic, but I'm not sure WHAT these are made out of.

Made out of UTG (Ultra-Thin Glass) and a factory-applied plastic screen protector on top. Initially, I couldn't believe glass could bend like that but it's true.

 

[johnsawyercjs]

You would expect crease behavior from plastic, but I'm not sure WHAT these are made out of.

Yes, it's mainly the plastic layers that causes the crease. Foldable displays are a sandwich of, among other things, ultra-thin glass covered with a thin layer of plastic, which is bonded to the glass with an adhesive (which also contributes to the crease). The UTG layer, by itself, doesn't have significant crease memory. If you were to take a foldable display that has developed a crease, and remove the top plastic layer and the adhesive, along with the OLED layer and its adhesive from under the glass, the underlying UTG would then be able to sit flat.

Since the UTG itself doesn't crease, the composition of the other layers sounds like an area of continuing engineering effort to try to eliminate the crease.

 

[johnsawyercjs]

For me, the biggest issue is the soft screen that will be easily scratchable. Crease or not, the fact that dust and fingernails can and will scratch the screen makes it a complete non-starter.

From what I've been reading of user reports on the more current foldables, at least Samsung's, that rarely happens with newer models.

 

[acblue94]

People keep acting like the iPhone Fold is somehow going to eliminate the crease entirely.

It won’t.

There will be a crease. Maybe it’ll be smaller than what we’ve seen on other foldables. Maybe it’ll be harder to notice in normal use. But there is no magic display technology that completely bypasses the physics of repeatedly bending a screen.

That’s why I still struggle with the idea of $2,500 device that has a visible and/or tangible crease running through the middle of the display. At that price, I expect a screen that feels uncompromisingly premium, not one with a built-in reminder that it’s folding.

The best part will come after launch. As soon as the first units arrive, MacRumors will be flooded with threads of people taking photos from every possible angle, under every lighting condition imaginable, trying to prove that the crease either exists or doesn’t.

“Can’t see it in normal use.”

“Look at it under a flashlight.”

“I can feel it.”

“Mine doesn’t have it.”

“It’s only visible at certain angles.”


We’re about to witness CreaseGate.

Cool. So you traveled through time and saw the final product?

 

[Populus]

What I wonder, is if it will have that transparent film glued on top. That one that seems removable but it isn’t advised to remove it…

 

[acblue94]

People keep acting like the iPhone Fold is somehow going to eliminate the crease entirely.

It won’t.

There will be a crease. Maybe it’ll be smaller than what we’ve seen on other foldables. Maybe it’ll be harder to notice in normal use. But there is no magic display technology that completely bypasses the physics of repeatedly bending a screen.

That’s why I still struggle with the idea of $2,500 device that has a visible and/or tangible crease running through the middle of the display. At that price, I expect a screen that feels uncompromisingly premium, not one with a built-in reminder that it’s folding.

The best part will come after launch. As soon as the first units arrive, MacRumors will be flooded with threads of people taking photos from every possible angle, under every lighting condition imaginable, trying to prove that the crease either exists or doesn’t.

“Can’t see it in normal use.”

“Look at it under a flashlight.”

“I can feel it.”

“Mine doesn’t have it.”

“It’s only visible at certain angles.”


We’re about to witness CreaseGate.

Time traveler?

 

[techTAG]

People keep acting like the iPhone Fold is somehow going to eliminate the crease entirely.

It won’t.

There will be a crease. Maybe it’ll be smaller than what we’ve seen on other foldables. Maybe it’ll be harder to notice in normal use. But there is no magic display technology that completely bypasses the physics of repeatedly bending a screen.

That’s why I still struggle with the idea of $2,500 device that has a visible and/or tangible crease running through the middle of the display. At that price, I expect a screen that feels uncompromisingly premium, not one with a built-in reminder that it’s folding.

The best part will come after launch. As soon as the first units arrive, MacRumors will be flooded with threads of people taking photos from every possible angle, under every lighting condition imaginable, trying to prove that the crease either exists or doesn’t.

“Can’t see it in normal use.”

“Look at it under a flashlight.”

“I can feel it.”

“Mine doesn’t have it.”

“It’s only visible at certain angles.”


We’re about to witness CreaseGate.

No one is making you buy it 🤣

 

[Luftkopf]

I don't care so much about the crease, they're getting manageable now, and I'm sure Apple's will be fine. The thing that bothers me about every folding phone I've checked out, including the Samsung Fold 8 Ultra, is the super cheap, soft plasticky feeling inner screens. I'm sure you get used to them after a while, but they've all felt awful to use to me.

It's all a bit of a moot point to me, I'm not the target market for folding phones. Way too expensive, way too little point (for me).

 

[macfacts]

The crease will be the new notch, the "billboard" to advertise to everyone you have a apple phone.

 

[bushman4]

See it in the store or read the reviews before you buy it. While the crease may be minimal
Most likely it’s there unless Apple has developed a tension system to eliminate it

 

[Wizec]

From what I've been reading of user reports on the more current foldables, at least Samsung's, that rarely happens with newer models.

Really? That's cool. I kind of wish that Apple would make an iPhone "Duo" with all glass screens, and just a very small gap between them. But, I guess everyone has their preferences
🙂

 

[uacd]

People have accepted the notches in 1000$+ devices, they will also accept the creases in 2000$+ phones. In fact people will accept anything the marketing team at Apple throws at them, because it is seemingly fun and trendy.

The form factor itself is weird… If one wants a compact phone, why make it foldable? Phones are already too large, making phone foldable doesn’t solve the poor scalability of UI and OS, doesn’t make fonts or readability any better. An iPad can do much better job than any foldable phone. I am pretty sure: if Apple wasn’t able to solve scalability after increasing screen size with iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, they will never solve it with large foldables either.

The problem is that smartphones dictate the version of the website that is opened, you will still have limited mobile versions of all websites in Safari (unless there will be dynamic user agent change when you unfold the device), still have ugly and basic iPhone apps, maybe TikTok and Instagram addicts will love it though - those devices are probably made for even more scrolling

 

[henkie]

The crease be damned. I think price will be the decider: for the 2500 dollar (expected price) you can buy an iPhone 17, MB Neo (or iPad Air) and have ~900 dollar to spare to buy a PS5+ a slurry of games or go on a a nice little trip. What is the expected benefit of the foldable in a practicable sense?

 

[Steve Adams]

It's inevitable.

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From photos I've seen, the pixels also tend to fail in the crease area.

Also delamination.

It's just a silly idea IMO.

iPhone fold gonna have the shortest usable lifespan of all iPhones to date.

It would be wise to purchase Applecare for this phone.

If they are like samsung, you won't be able to purchase the protection on it. They know the screens are extremely fragile. I have seen so many folding phones come back to the store with the inner screen damaged.