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It’s how so-called glare-free TVs still have reflections.

Furthermore, I don’t think that Apple will advertise the Ultra as crease-free.

Lastly, consumers have been buying crease-y foldables for many years, the current flagships being around $2000 as well. Nevertheless they sell.
 
For me, the biggest issue is the soft screen that will be easily scratchable. Crease or not, the fact that dust and fingernails can and will scratch the screen makes it a complete non-starter.
 
Source: "Trust me bro."

I honestly don't know what to expect. But making declarations before it's revealed is a bit odd.
Check out the Samsung Fold8 devices at your local retailer. This is probably the 'cutting-edge' foldable display technology for this year. Samsung is the only one making these displays and for their hinge/crease design they can use 7 years of real-world experience collected from all sorts of people (from retail units, rma units, customer/reviewer feedback) while Apple can only do secret lab testing on a completely new product category right now (which didn't always turn out to be great in the recent past).
But you are right, it's still a guess.
 
It's inevitable.

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From photos I've seen, the pixels also tend to fail in the crease area.

Also delamination.

It's just a silly idea IMO.

iPhone fold gonna have the shortest usable lifespan of all iPhones to date.

It would be wise to purchase Applecare for this phone.
You know that’s a picture of a galaxy fold from four years ago, right?
This is the problem with the foldables are bad screamers and shouters on this website, all of their anecdotes, photographs, random ramblings are from foldables that are from like four, five, seven years ago.
At least use an example of a foldable released in the last 18 months to compare to the iPhone fold that… hasn’t even been announced yet.
Just for comparison, when that fold in the picture was released, Apple was still selling a MacBook Pro with a touch bar.
Imagine me making a post today to tell everyone not to ever, ever buy a MacBook Pro because they have a touch bar, and then you post a picture of the one that came out four years ago. You wouldn’t be taken very seriously.
 
For me, the biggest issue is the soft screen that will be easily scratchable. Crease or not, the fact that dust and fingernails can and will scratch the screen makes it a complete non-starter.
This is also my main holdup with considering a folding phone, even if I really like the idea of having an iPad size screen in my pocket…
 
And for those that questions how would a case go onto the iPhone Fold:
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I think that Google,
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and Samsung both managed to do it.
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You would expect crease behavior from plastic, but I'm not sure WHAT these are made out of.
Yes, it's mainly the plastic layers that causes the crease. Foldable displays are a sandwich of, among other things, ultra-thin glass covered with a thin layer of plastic, bonded to the glass with an adhesive. The UTG layer, by itself, doesn't have significant crease memory. If you were to take a foldable display that has developed a crease, and remove the top plastic layer and the adhesive, along with the OLED layer and its adhesive from under the glass, the underlying UTG would then be albe to sit flat.

Since the UTG itself doesn't crease, the composition of the other layers sounds like an area of continuing engineering effort to try to eliminate the crease.
 
For me, the biggest issue is the soft screen that will be easily scratchable. Crease or not, the fact that dust and fingernails can and will scratch the screen makes it a complete non-starter.
From what I've been reading of user reports on the more current foldables, at least Samsung's, that rarely happens with newer models.
 
People keep acting like the iPhone Fold is somehow going to eliminate the crease entirely.

It won’t.

There will be a crease. Maybe it’ll be smaller than what we’ve seen on other foldables. Maybe it’ll be harder to notice in normal use. But there is no magic display technology that completely bypasses the physics of repeatedly bending a screen.

That’s why I still struggle with the idea of $2,500 device that has a visible and/or tangible crease running through the middle of the display. At that price, I expect a screen that feels uncompromisingly premium, not one with a built-in reminder that it’s folding.

The best part will come after launch. As soon as the first units arrive, MacRumors will be flooded with threads of people taking photos from every possible angle, under every lighting condition imaginable, trying to prove that the crease either exists or doesn’t.

“Can’t see it in normal use.”

“Look at it under a flashlight.”

“I can feel it.”

“Mine doesn’t have it.”

“It’s only visible at certain angles.”


We’re about to witness CreaseGate.
Cool. So you traveled through time and saw the final product?
 
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