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IPhone fold gen. 1: will only feature the foldable screen.
IPhone fold gen. 2: outside LED indicators
IPhone fold gen. 3: outside tiny indicator screen
IPhone fold gen. 4: outside Oled Display
IPhone fold gen. 5: outside full Oled Display

Lots of innovation and rumor content coming up… 😂
Gen 11: 90Hz semi-promotion etc
 
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iPhone mini comparison btw. (I didn't model this iPhone mini but it is the correct scale)

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I did a similar thing as you but not as fancy.

It seems based on the ratio info that the opened state would be approximately 4.7"x6.22"? I cut it out in physical form next to my iPhone 13 Mini:

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Haha, well I wasted my whole morning faffing around with that, so you did the smart thing. My previous guess which my renders are based on are closer to 4:3 than to 3:2 but my drawings were based only on the screen size rumour, not this new aspect ratio rumour. If I want to avoid work further, I might try and make it fit better.:confused:

Like you though, I'm acutely interested in how big this is going to be compared to my iPhone mini.
 
my plan to replace my 14 Pro Max with an 18 Pro and an iPad Mini just went out the window, a foldable would make more sense!

EDIT: just realized one thing: can the selfie camera be used when it’s opened to take even better photos? I understand it’s not a better camera than the regular ones in the back, but the more the merrier?
 
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I don't want or need "zero bezels"

Why is that attractive to people, in actual use?

I recognize it "looks sexy" in renders, but it's not a good usability design
Zero bezels is perfect for usability and immersion. No one in their right mind wouldn’t want zero bezels. I know that you don’t think you want it, but you do and you wouldn’t dream of going back once you had it.

Let me explain why you want it but don’t realize:

#1: Immersion.

There is no better immersion that pushing the borders to the edge, to the metal casing. The depth our eyes perceive makes the immersion very great when it encompasses the entirety of the thing we are holding or looking at.

#2: Touch Sensitivity

All worries about it becoming too easy to accidentally touch are nonsensical. The last 1/8” of screen will have zero touch sensitivity. It will be 100% strictly for immersion. You will not accidentally touch it because it will not sense your touches at all. Period. The pixels go to the metal because it offers visual immersion which is unmatched. GUI touchable elements would not go into the final 1/8”, it would only be elements that are not interactive and it would not be much. The final 1/16” of border would have no elements at all, only lit pixels matching the screen because obviously cases have small lips and a lot of people use cases.

Conclusion: there is no issue, it is only a massive increase in immersion and you wouldn’t do without it once you have it.
 
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That means it'll be pretty wide when closed, right? Definitely not like our tall and somewhat skinny current iPhones. I'm just glad the screen won't be square - the most pointless display shape.
 
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This feels a bit hyperbolic -- you are talking about very similar ratios in practical usage

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Nope. See how that 4:3 introduces massive letter boxes on the only point of a larger screen: media consumption?

You must get to 16:9 INSIDE the 4:3 shape. That means that the difference is far greater than you depict here. That 16:9 has to be shrunk and fit inside the 4:3 which means the loss of screen to letter boxing is far far greater than that.

Moreover, a lot of film is now 2.39:1 which is even wider. Even more kettter boxing.
 
I think apple has waited to get into this section of the market once they felt they could do it better than samsung and some of the other companies. Interested to see the durability and practical use they have come up with for this option.
 
This article is incorrect.

11” iPads also are not 4:3. Only the 12.9/13” iPads are now 4:3.

The rest are all more like 3:2
 
Let me explain why you want it but don’t realize:

#1: Immersion.

There is no better immersion that pushing the borders to the edge, to the metal casing. The depth our eyes perceive makes the immersion very great when it encompasses the entirety of the thing we are holding or looking at.
Yeah! Having your fingers over part of the actual screen instead of a bezel while you are holding on to it is SUPER immersive.
:rolleyes:
 
As an iPhone + iPad Mini user, I'm definitely interested in a combined device. Especially with its less square unfolded aspect ratio when compared to most Android foldables.

Although the price tag may make me stay away. We'll see. Outside of the folding aspect and combining 2 devices, I'm not particularly interested in > 60 Hz refresh rates, OLED display and other pro/premium level features that likely go into the high price as well (I'm happy with the iPad Mini after all). I guess some folks who've been wanting an iPad Mini "Pro" may be interested in this as well and won't mind the price.
 
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Apple's upcoming "iPhone Fold" will feature a foldable screen with a 4:3 aspect ratio, according to a Chinese leaker who previously leaked the book-style device's display dimensions.

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The Weibo-based account Digital Chat Station claims that Apple will adopt a "roughly" 4:3 aspect ratio on the inner display in order to achieve consistency between the outer display, as well as to ensure parity with existing iPad software.

Apple's iPad and iPad Pro models have maintained a 4:3 aspect ratio across generations. The ratio offers a balanced experience in both portrait and landscape orientation, making it particularly versatile for reading/browsing and split-screen multitasking. Only the 8.3-inch iPad mini has deviated from the traditional ratio, instead using an approximate 3:2 ratio due to its slightly taller and narrower dimensions.

Digital Chat Station previously revealed the alleged dimensions of the iPhone Fold, claiming the device has a 5.5-inch outer screen and an inner folding 7.8-inch screen. Reputable Apple industry analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has since corroborated the dimensions, additionally describing the inner screen as "crease-free."

Kuo says the device will feature a titanium alloy casing with a hinge made of metallic glass, and it will have a dual-lens rear camera with a front-facing camera for both folded and unfolded states.

Notably, Kuo says that the phone will forgo Face ID authentication, instead using a Touch ID side button as a means to save precious internal space. It will also be positioned as a "true AI-driven phone," with the larger screens allowing for a better multi-tasking AI experience.

Most estimates put the selling price of the iPhone Fold at around $2,000-$2,500 in the United States. Bloomberg reporter Mark Gurman expects Apple's first foldable device to arrive next sometime year.

Article Link: iPhone Foldable Display Said to Feature iPad-Style 4:3 Aspect Ratio
Foldables are an absolute no-go forever.
The bump in the middle, the hinge in the middle, the folded screen. All parts that will definitely wear and tear over a short period of time.
I still don’t see people around, carrying a Samsung foldable because it is simply a wrong and refuted vision of the smartphone.
 
Haha, well I wasted my whole morning faffing around with that, so you did the smart thing. My previous guess which my renders are based on are closer to 4:3 than to 3:2 but my drawings were based only on the screen size rumour, not this new aspect ratio rumour. If I want to avoid work further, I might try and make it fit better.:confused:

Like you though, I'm acutely interested in how big this is going to be compared to my iPhone mini.

Yup same here! For me, the iPhone mini was more about the hand-holdability and less about the cost. I was always willing to pay more for an iPhone mini "Pro" that was thicker for more battery life (I use it with a MagSafe wallet attached, after all), and this seems like it could fit the bill perfectly. This could potentially be the perfect device to combine my iPhone 13 Mini, iPad Pro 11" (2020), and Kindle Oasis, in a sense.
 
Foldables are an absolute no-go forever.
The bump in the middle, the hinge in the middle, the folded screen. All parts that will definitely wear and tear over a short period of time.
I still don’t see people around, carrying a Samsung foldable because it is simply a wrong and refuted vision of the smartphone.
And despite your opinion, Apple is going to release its foldable iPhone within 2 years from now.
 
The other day I posed my own guess based on the rumoured 7.8 and 5.5 inch screens, and tried to line them up to proportionally correspond.

Apparently I'm doing anything to avoid work so I thought I would model them up really roughly to see what it looked like. Bezels are a bit 'optimistic' when I got them into 3D though.

Apologies, I'm not a product designer or anything so this is flawed and the rendering is pretty rough.

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Again, this is just my guess based on nothing but my assumptions from the previous rumours, please don't hold any stock in the veracity of this!
This looks awesome! Thank you for sharing.
 
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Imagine a previous generation 7.9" iPad Mini, but used in landscape mode, that can fold in half.

I think that's what is being described here. If so, I'm all in.
 
I'm not sure I buy this part. For these reasons:

  • A foldable device will have more internal space than a traditional iPhone – which has Face ID.
  • Apple have achieved Face ID in their thinnest product ever (iPad Pro 13-inch).
  • Besides, for the most part, Apple have been moving away from Touch ID.
I'm not sure about that first point. In the absence of new materials with greater strength, the exterior surfaces are fixed thickness. Thus, thinner devices will loose internal volume for components disproportionately. A foldable will have more area when unfolded, but it's more like taking today's iPhone and removing the volume of two additional external surface (i.e., think of slicing a phone into two layers and replacing enough innards with two more glass/metal surfaces of any thickness).
 
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I am excited about this device, but what in the heehaw does this sentence mean:

"It will also be positioned as a "true AI-driven phone," with the larger screens allowing for a *** better multi-tasking AI experience ***"

If that actually is an Apple leak versus some mangled English, Please. Stop. With. The. Nonsense. AI. Crap

Cant even get the basics of AI to work, stop throwing out word salads trying to make AI sound revolutionary
 
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The problem with a foldable is that multitasking is nearly useless. Think about a 4:3 screen. They simply don’t offer you much, they are more distracting than anything in terms of added app content.

Look at the Messages app. On bigger screen all they do is slap the message threads list on the left side which is nearly useless and I argue distracting and ugly over the iPhone experience where it’s just a single message thread and you instantly swipe back to the threads list to move between. Having the thread list perpetually there is simply bad.
That’s not how multitasking on the iPad works though.
Once you do split view, or especially in slide over and stage manager, when you make the window smaller it reverts to the iPhone layout, and the “ perpetual” message threads list on the left collapses.
Even more true in iPadOS 18, where the side bars collapse into a navigation bar across the top, unless you want to expand it to show the side bar.
 
I'm not sure about that first point. In the absence of new materials with greater strength, the exterior surfaces are fixed thickness. Thus, thinner devices will loose internal volume for components disproportionately. A foldable will have more area when unfolded, but it's more like taking today's iPhone and removing the volume of two additional external surface (i.e., think of slicing a phone into two layers and replacing enough innards with two more glass/metal surfaces of any thickness).

You make an excellent observation. I hadn't taken long enough to consider this aspect. Thank you! I agree with you.
 
As someone who works quite a bit from his phone, I am excited about this device. However, I never purchase a first gen Apple product and rarely purchase a second gen product either since it usually takes Apple 2-3 gens to perfect a product (sometimes more like Apple Watch, iPad, etc.). However, I might bite and become an early adopter with this.
 
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