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Count me out, I will sit this one and wait until there are additional features like bigger mem, 3G and the number of apps goes up. In my case I rather wait, no need for me to be at front of the line.

Beta testers line up, I will wait this one out.
 
I think unless restrained by production and availability Apple will SHATTER their goal within 2008. I wouldn't be surprised if there are people trampled everywhere on release day at the stores trying to get their hands on one.

Pretty much like what happens with the PS3. Geez I have been trying to get one since they are launched, yet on the other hand I see mountains of Wiis everywhere.

People care only about cheap, period.
 
Why are people always picking on others at these forums? I believe the original poster was saying that curiosity has driven much of the hype around the iPhone, much like what happened with Snakes on a Plane. Even if the phone is crap, it will still bring in the big bucks, and this article indicates how high the interest already is. The reply made sense to me.

I didn't pick on him, I picked on the guy who said the article meant that "Microsoft got owned", cos that kind of comment makes all Mac users look childish and smug (like when ppl spell it Micro$oft even though Gates is so charitable). I just said I didn't get the SOAP reference either. Some ppl say SOAP bombed, some say the hype about how bad it was made it a hit. Sure, the negative publicity probably let it do better than it otherwise would have, but it only made a bit more than its production budget back at the box office, which means it wouldn't have gone into profit until DVD and TV sales. So it was neither turkey nor hit. With the iphone poised to either be the next ipod or the next Newton, I didn't get what honestimage was saying about its chances, sorry.
 
Fair enough, nickane.

Anyway, the hype certainly has me excited. I would love to have an iPhone, but it's going to take a miracle for me to be able to afford one. :)
 
Why are people always picking on others at these forums? I believe the original poster was saying that curiosity has driven much of the hype around the iPhone, much like what happened with Snakes on a Plane. Even if the phone is crap, it will still bring in the big bucks, and this article indicates how high the interest already is. The reply made sense to me.

Now that makes sense. I saw SOAP and it was everything I hoped it would be. That's not necessarily a compliment.

-Clive
 
don't mean to single you out

Pretty much like what happens with the PS3. Geez I have been trying to get one since they are launched, yet on the other hand I see mountains of Wiis everywhere.

People care only about cheap, period.

The logic of your post seems a bit confusing here.

If the Nintendo Wii is cheap then there should be "mountains of Wiis everywhere"?

you have to clarify

Cinch
 
It occurs to me that these inquiries come from a certain subset of those who are interested in the iPhone: those who know it will offered from AT&T (which your average consumer who say the ads does not know), and who would think to sign up for iPhone info FROM AT&T instead of, say, from Apple.

I can only imagine how many people signed up on Apple's own iPhone mailing list.
 
iPhone, how damn long! Arrrgh!

You guys itching to get your hands on one! It's worse for me. I'm in the UK and I cannot bare the wait. It's like someone is taking a hammer to my gonads reminding me of the pain to ditch my Sony Ericsson K750i. Arrrgh. It hurts too much. I'm conteplating a move to the US but that will fail as your Homeland Security will ship my arse back to the UK. I've no damn choice. I wish they would say here it is and you can get it right after my keynote. Jobs knows how to play the crowd, but Steve why have you forsaken me, October 07, I can't wait that long!

Sob sob, if only it was October now.
 
The logic of your post seems a bit confusing here.

If the Nintendo Wii is cheap then there should be "mountains of Wiis everywhere"?

you have to clarify

Cinch

The first half is sarcastic, but the conclusion isn't. The wii is cheaper, so it's selling out, whereas the ps3 isn't. In lieu of the heavily successful (yet not sell-out) Europe launch, though, it has to be said that Sony obviously wants supply to exceed demand, otherwise all the Bluray early adopters would be too frustrated with looking for a PS3 to bother making the saving, and would just buy a $1000 standalone player. That said, given that its selling out with double the supply, the wii does go some way to proving iW00t's point about the public clamour for cheapness. But I'm sure the motion sensitive controllers don't hurt either, and I seem to remember from the keynote that the iphone has a pretty cool UI of its own... let's just hope it works.

I can only imagine how many people signed up on Apple's own iPhone mailing list.

And how many did so asking for the umpteenth time if they would REALLY have to use Cingular to own one...? ;)
 
They'll say it DID flop long after it sells its second million :eek:

It will scratch just like every other non-magical handheld device, and the press will scream "iPhone plagued by catastrophic gouges!!!" Some software bugs will be found, just like every other handheld, and even after they are fixed, the cry will echo through the ages: "iPhone is buggy and sometimes shows photos backwards!!!!" ... and still it will sell somehow :)

One good thing: I like to let early adopters catch any issues (sometimes even hardware issues) before I buy. (This is not an Apple issue as some claim--ANY new product faces that, from cars to Dell displays.) The iPhone will get a LOT of early adopters really fast, so mini-revisions (undocumented even) might not be long in coming :)


I wonder, does anyone have evidence to suggest that Apple has reduced their staffing of Mac and OS X projects in order to staff other projects? Or evidence to suggest that Apple's non-Mac projects are money-losers, taking R&D money out of Apple's pockets?

It's a popular myth these days that Apple must do less Mac R&D if they have other projects too. (Or maybe that they DO develop Mac stuff, but "forget" to release it?) I'm not just not convinced of that logic :)
 
For those of you who keep thinking this is somehow a sign of lower interest, consider this:

1) When was the last time you heard of anyone calling a company to see if they would get notified when a phone comes out? RAZR maybe. maybe. otherwise... never.

2) What percentage of total interest is this sample representing? Do an informal survey yourself... find people who want to buy the phone and then ask how many called AT&T. I bet its a really low percentage.

3) Its unscientific by nature, but also consider AT&T marketers must think it's significant otherwise they wouldn't brag about it during a press conference.
 
But what was their goal in the first year, 10 million iPhone's to be sold ?

Only 1/10th interest, hmm...

As I do marketing to butter my bread, so to speak, I can tell you from experience that there's a huge difference between those that join a mailing list and actual demand.

That is an amazing number, one million, One -Tenth the interest is a FANTASTIC predicter of 10 million for sure.

Not all of the million will buy. But on the other hand... a LOT of people will buy who did NOT sign up to be called. A lot more than that million are at least "interested" already, and a whole sea of people are barely even aware the thing exists--but they will be interested once it's out there. Then it will grow into more models at more price levels, and will reach other countries and other network types. This will be a big seller, I'd say :)

But I find this very hard to believe:

"One million people have asked us to call when this phone is available," Stephenson said during a keynote speech at the CTIA wireless technology conference. "Six hundred thousand of them asked to be called while they're trying to eat dinner. Another three hundred thousand wished to be called and greeted with dead silence."

:confused:

The article says it was an email signup list -- I am on it so I can vouch for this. I think he was using the world "Call" metaphorically.

Count me out, I will sit this one and wait until there are additional features like bigger mem, 3G and the number of apps goes up. In my case I rather wait, no need for me to be at front of the line.

Beta testers line up, I will wait this one out.

I wil happily beta-test the iPhone: then I'll sell it and buy Gen2, and so on.
 
16 GBs my sweet spot

I read the post about making 8 gigs work by using a smartlist for rotating songs (including favs and randoms) Which is good idea but 8 gigs is still not enough for me.

Now the tough decision, my sister promised me an iPhone for converting her office to macintoshes. Should I hold off till november, when my contract with verizon runs out or do it in June and pay the fee for breaking my verizon contract. Also in November perhaps apple will be releasing version G2 iphone with 16/32 gigs.

Come on apple suprise us by uping the storage 8/16 on the June release.
 
I wonder, does anyone have evidence to suggest that Apple has reduced their staffing of Mac and OS X projects in order to staff other projects? Or evidence to suggest that Apple's non-Mac projects are money-losers, taking R&D money out of Apple's pockets?

I wouldn't worry about this. In Apple's entire history the mac line up has never been better, stronger or more focused. They're competitive on so many levels now. It used to be a decade ago that 'the mac advantage' carried a ludicrous premium and sort of 'left you out on a limb' but now you get faster, elegant, reliable, and just all round so much BETTER for virtually the same amount of money.

What I really don't understand is what is still compelling at least 20% of the other 96% of computer buyers to intentionally choose NOT to buy Apple...

You know that's like standing in a movie theatre and the exact same movie is playing on two screens...only on each screen the same movie has been made by a different director...

On Screen one the movie is directed by Steven Spielberg with FX by Dreamworks on screen two it's directed by Terry Benson Snr the Third with FX by gimp0vision.

Everybody knows Terry Benson's movies are 'watchable but nothing amazing' - he's yet to make a really great movie! Spielbergs reputation is second to none, known globally as a visionary and yet there are 96 people queuing for Benson on screen two and only 4 for Spielberg on screen one.

So what it is ? What's stopping Apple breaking through to mainstream??

Hopefully, iPhone will really be the ultimate halo which will bring a few dozen million people over to get to the 'cool, fun, happy side of the fence!!
 
I agree--Macs aren't harmed at all by the iPhone. In fact, OS X usage will grow as Apple gains customers, which means the iPhone will HELP the Mac platform--in more ways than just bringing in cash and press attention. Mindshare is vital, and the iPhone shares the "ease of use" factor with Macs and iPods.

What I really don't understand is what is still compelling at least 20% of the other 96% of computer buyers to intentionally choose NOT to buy Apple...

O/T, but the biggest reason, I think (speaking of the masses, not the tech-savvy):

They are afraid of Macs because they have problems with Windows.

This makes a kind of sense. They do HEAR that Macs are simpler (mixed with lots of FUD). However, they KNOW first hand that computers are a pain. What they KNOW matters most. So if computers they are familiar with (meaning Windows) are a pain, then an UNKNOWN computer would be worse! They think a Mac WOULD cause them problems beause they don't understand that using a computer doesn't have to be as bad as their experience.

Two supporting reasons: fear of the unknown and of learning something new (not all that different, but that's the fear). And herd mentality: they don't know WHY everyone uses Windows, but they figure there must be SOME reason, so better stick with the crowd "just because."

And they're not all that conscious of their own reasons. They line up to buy another Windows machine without even considering that anything else is worth a look. (In this regard, the Mac ads on TV may be very useful.)
 
They are afraid of Macs because they have problems with Windows.

Wow - that is one incredible insight!!. You know, I really think you have it.
Apple come see this...it's the answer to the mystery...Brilliant!...:)

The irony is both hilarious and tragic!.

Let's hope that maybe they are starting to come round...
 
And the blackberrys treo's htc generate how much inquirys per release?

come on 1 million is not even 1% in the mobile market and people are already saying stuff like ohh just wait etc.

Yeah just wait till people really se how crippled this phone is.

And people hate microsoft because???????
 
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