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Please. Do us a HUGE favor and make a movie, clearly demonstrating the problems. The onces you here say to experience with your iPhone 4. You as a long-term [24] year Apple customer can do this, no?
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Leave me out of the 'us'. It would not be a favour, let alone a huge one to me. If trstahly is having problems, then he is having problems.

And if he does go to that trouble what do you propose to do to help his situation out in return? You can do something, no?
 
I am on my third iPhone 4 and am buying a Blackberry Torch on the 12th when they are released. I have had every iPhone since the day they came out but this one is only usable on speaker sitting on your counter or desk. The proximity sensors are so defective that the screen does not always turn off and you constantly put callers on pause, hold, or speaker phone. I cannot tell you how many times this has happened with all three phones. You're talking and all of a sudden it is on speaker and you are accidentally calling another contact in your phone it is a mess. It sometimes happens five six seven times in the same call. Some of the senior analyst’s have admitted to a proximity sensor issue they are researching but as a twenty-four year Apple customer who has bought approx. one hundred mac's I am done with them. When they lie and cover up instead of facing a problem they have stepped up to a new level that is not the Apple I love and was loyal too. They too now put short term profit ahead of integrity. When you have fifty-billion in cash in the bank I would not think that the integrity route would be that hard to figure out for the best long term good of the company and it's customers.

I got my iphone on launch day in Canada and I haven't had a problem. Enjoy sliding that torch up and down with software that is 3 years behind :p
 
One person didn't design that ****** antenna. There should be "more leaving" I hope.

This has nothing to do with antenna.

When a new person, especially an executive, comes into a new company, it takes 5-6 months to get familiar with the environment and learn how things are moving around. Then another 5-6 months to see if the place is really for you. And Papermaster leaves after a year and a few months, which is a typical cycle for an executive who doesn't fit into the environment. And he has gotten all the so called bad press on top of his shoulders, although he's practically just started to work there and came in late in iPhone 4 development ... Too much for a newbie in a company.

iPhone 4 was in development since early 2008, and that new antenna design as well. It's a remarkable antenna nonetheless, and is a work of creative genius. Apple is not guilty because the US has a cr@ppy GSM networks, outdated and fragile, which are years behind what rest of the world has. Your call drops and antenna problems are caused by your: poor networks + suddenly high user demands for more robust networks + obese fingers + US journalism. But this is, of course, too much for a typical US journalist to comprehend. It's easier to cr@p around and pretend you're perfect and everything else faulty.

Your corporate culture of denial becomes your personal nature.

In the rest of the civilised world, people have zero issues like this (way less than with any other phone) and their iPhones 4 work like a charm. And we don't fall on newspaper rant, like Americans do, because we can use our brains -- we don't need newspapers to tell us what to think, especially those web-based only. We simply show them middle finger and go on with our lives, because we know why they do that what they do.
 
Leave me out of the 'us'. It would not be a favour, let alone a huge one to me. If trstahly is having problems, then he is having problems.
First. I am not denying the fact that there is a proximity bug, but anyone here can claim anything, and this without showing any evidence. Now wait for N people to experience the exact same problem, which is what happened with antennagate.

And if he does go to that trouble what do you propose to do to help his situation out in return? You can do something, no?
A simple video should not be that hard, especially now that the iPhone is equipped with a much better camera.

Also. He did post the exact same message twice [the only two he made so far] in different topics, as a new forum member, which is what made it look a bit suspicious. I mean. Jumping ship after being an Apple customer for 24 years, for a silly software bug that has been confirmed already, by Steve Jobs himself, and is being worked on for the next release. Just weird.
 
Wow, all three of your iPhone 4 replacements with the same problems, that’s amazing? I got lucky, my first one Pre-Oredered and received 6/22 and not one problem! No drop calls or proximity sensor problems! I must have got the golden iPhone……..

I'm on my third too...first one did not just drop calls it switched itself off, second one Overheated and up came a warning Triange and Apple has a diagnostic check for that, third one drops calls, but, i'm not bothering to replace it as I live in NYC...the biggest hassle is that if you have all your Apps nested in folders when you install the backup you lose all that, the apps just come up alphabetically, it takes six hours to redo the App Folders...
 
I'm on my third too...first one did not just drop calls it switched itself off, second one Overheated and up came a warning Triange and Apple has a diagnostic check for that, third one drops calls, but, i'm not bothering to replace it as I live in NYC...the biggest hassle is that if you have all your Apps nested in folders when you install the backup you lose all that, the apps just come up alphabetically, it takes six hours to redo the App Folders...
Yeah. That has to be taken care of with a future software update. There's also a bug that can hide apps. One more for the TODO list I guess.
 
One person didn't design that ****** antenna. There should be "more leaving" I hope.

Indeed, it looks like his subordinate Ruben Caballero, (listed on LinkedIn as Sr. Director Engineering iPhone/iPod), might have had a hand in the design, judging from the bezel antenna patent with his name listed.

(Caballero is the one who was rumored to have warned Jobs about the antenna, although Apple denies this.)
 
This has nothing to do with antenna.

When a new person, especially an executive, comes into a new company, it takes 5-6 months to get familiar with the environment and learn how things are moving around. Then another 5-6 months to see if the place is really for you. And Papermaster leaves after a year and a few months, which is a typical cycle for an executive who doesn't fit into the environment. And he has gotten all the so called bad press on top of his shoulders, although he's practically just started to work there and came in late in iPhone 4 development ... Too much for a newbie in a company.

iPhone 4 was in development since early 2008, and that new antenna design as well. It's a remarkable antenna nonetheless, and is a work of creative genius. Apple is not guilty because the US has a cr@ppy GSM networks, outdated and fragile, which are years behind what rest of the world has. Your call drops and antenna problems are caused by your: poor networks + suddenly high user demands for more robust networks + obese fingers + US journalism. But this is, of course, too much for a typical US journalist to comprehend. It's easier to cr@p around and pretend you're perfect and everything else faulty.

Your corporate culture of denial becomes your personal nature.

In the rest of the civilised world, people have zero issues like this (way less than with any other phone) and their iPhones 4 work like a charm. And we don't fall on newspaper rant, like Americans do, because we can use our brains -- we don't need newspapers to tell us what to think, especially those web-based only. We simply show them middle finger and go on with our lives, because we know why they do that what they do.

This needs to be quoted on every page of this thread.
 
It sometimes happens five six seven times in the same call. Some of the senior analyst’s have admitted to a proximity sensor issue they are researching but as a twenty-four year Apple customer who has bought approx. one hundred mac's I am done with them.
Hundreds of Macs, huh?

Deal breaker, indeed.

Yeah. That has to be taken care of with a future software update. There's also a bug that can hide apps. One more for the TODO list I guess.

The folder-backup solution will hopefully happen with 4.1, in a similar manner to the way that application order is now maintained via back-up.

Do you have more than 176 apps installed on your phone?

Excess of that, apps are stored, but not displayed past page 11, though they can be accessed via Spotlight.

Pulling the highly-utilized apps to the front pages via iTunes will keep them visible.
 
Since he's from IBM I doubt he got along with Jobs...

Thus as others have stated, he pretty much got a feel for the company and left; he had 0 actual influence on the current phone design and implementation. It's okay though, because the US media is dumb and will make it out so Papermaster is a scapegoat, despite all of the logical fallacies of such a statement.

Also, it seems like the Americans are really the only ones to complain about the iP4 issue in large scale, so there could be a correlation here... but of course people will simply deny this. Had we had a higher reception/signal though, this would be a non-issue, as we would lose a bar or two but still retain a connection. However when you start low and lose more, then it's an issue. Don't get me wrong, there is a design flaw, but it's not a show-stopper and its not the end of the world, despite what some seem to believe. Sensationalism at it's best :rolleyes:
 
The folder-backup solution will hopefully happen with 4.1, in a similar manner to the way that application order is now maintained via back-up.

Do you have more than 176 apps installed on your phone?

Excess of that, apps are stored, but not displayed past page 11, though they can be accessed via Spotlight.

Pulling the highly-utilized apps to the front pages via iTunes will keep them visible.
Nope. I had only ten apps installed when I ran into it. All apps where hidden, but Facebook and iBooks were still listen under General settings. I also got an update to the Twitter app, which was also hidden. No idea what happened there. Apple received the details; let's hope that I won't run into it anymore... restoring still sucks.

Might have been caused by the iBooks update, but what do I know ;)

p.s. The apps did show up in iTunes, but it somehow failed to correct the problem [I synced a couple of times]. I even removed and installed an app or two. Still no joy.
 
Nope. I had only ten apps installed when I ran into it. All apps where hidden, but Facebook and iBooks were still listen under General settings. I also got an update to the Twitter app, which was also hidden. No idea what happened there. Apple received the details; let's hope that I won't run into it anymore... restoring still sucks.

Might have been caused by the iBooks update, but what do I know ;)

p.s. The apps did show up in iTunes, but it somehow failed to correct the problem [I synced a couple of times]. I even removed and installed an app or two. Still no joy.

Highly unusual - perhaps it would be worthwhile to do a fresh OS restore.

Phantom apps can be an annoyance.
 
I can show you dozens of posts actually, where you keep going on about being an Apple shareholder. With your iPod Touch and recently replaced Mac Mini, you surely don't fit the stereotype of the type of investor whose opinion matters. Actually, can I say: "pictures or it never happened"? Any receipt/invoice or proof of transferring funds will do...

Answering your other request about showing posts where you deny or try to claim that the antenna problem is only in the US - well, do you write your own posts? Even in this thread there are posts where you put the blame on telecom companies and say that it is a US-only problem. If it is, you should inform Apple. They think it's global.

It's kind of sad that some people feel the need to protect Apple, when even Apple Inc accepted that the antenna issue was real and that there was a link between dropping calls and the antenna design. It took a few weeks and some lying, downplaying and denial on their part, but now they are doing their damage control EVERYWHERE. Even they don't claim that it is only affecting US handsets. They are sending these cheap bumpers everywhere. They have the refund in every Apple Stores overseas, but correct me if I'm wrong.


No reply from cvaldes? In since this post, the guy produced a few "as an Apple shareholder/as an investor" posts.

This is pathetic.
 
No reply from cvaldes? In since this post, the guy produced a few "as an Apple shareholder/as an investor" posts.

This is pathetic.

Actually, what's pathetic is insisting someone show you an investment account statement before you'll accept that they might be an Apple shareholder at face value. There are just a few of us out here, you know. :rolleyes:
 
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