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iPhone, iPod Touch SDK Details March 6th

Apps like Podcasts

I too would like to see them treat iPhone apps like podcasts. You can register them with Apple to reach the most amount of people...but you must adhere to their standards...or you have the freedom to market the software on your own. The adventurous types will buy direct from developers while the 'play it safe' users will take comfort in the fact that it's coming through iTunes, so it's at least been partially tested and conforms to certain quality standards.
 
stoutboy1 said:
I hope they are some sweet aps at launch. If they are all sold through itunes does that mean there wont be any free aps?
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Not necessarily.
While I do imagine distribution (fee-based) will be handled through the iTS, I can also see Apple offering a few freebies here & there. Over time.
But the big hitters will be fee-based.

And I suspect we'll see some apps available at the announcement. Maybe a free app or two - for users to test the process of installing and using an app? But pretty certain there will be a handful available at the announcement.
Which is not to say March 6th is THE announcement. It could be a "here's our road map, expect apps in April" kind of announcement. But whenever the 1st apps begin "shipping," it will be light switch: one day none, the next day tons. And then as the developer community grows more familiar with the process, so too will our options.
Should be fun.
 
dicklacara said:
Yeah... All the sales people in the Apple stores could use them to ring up sales and print (optional) to a BT printer.
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It takes two years to certify devices for use with credit card transactions. Even assuming this process started when the iPhone was announced, there's still another year to go.
 
how is this event, even remotely exciting? Yes having 3rd party apps on my iphone is very exciting but an event announcing that I can get 3rd party apps sounds boring to me.

Unless they announce other things, which I doubt.

maybe to kick it off, apple and a few other developers already have some software they can sell. hmm....



alright, I take back what I said earlier about this event not being exciting.
 
MS Exchange Support Coming Next Week.....

I know it is already available with imap switched on, but hey enterprises don't want to do this for security reasons.

So native MS Exchange support coming..... This will drive a few of those blackberry drivers over to the iPhone, what a way to push a few more iPhone units out the door.... Getting Closer to the 10 Billion Mark.
 
Leemo said:
And you know this... How exactly?
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For the same reason that the iTunes store is wifi only. It will bog-down AT&Ts "unlimited" network. I hope I am wrong, but I am pretty much certain. There's no way that AT&T will allow unlimited data access. SMS will die when people can bypass with true Instant Messaging.
 
psychofreak said:
Cool, this better be good. Hopefully VoIP won't be long...
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I'd bet Apple will talk about the next iPhone.

Wishlist:

-5Megapixel backside camera with built-in flash
-2Megapixel frontside camera for the new iChat application
-VPN with the strongest encryption
-Built-in capability to use the iPhone as a wireless modem
-Exchange integration
-3rd Party applications that don't break with each iPhone update
-3G network capable.
 
brianus said:
The fear for me is that Apple will only permit apps they've reviewed and placed in the iTunes store themselves, allowing them to control pricing (meaning, despite whatever the developer wishes, Apple will charge *something*), but more worryingly, deny access to any app that solves a problem they don't want solved. Like let's say AT&T doesn't want a chat client available because they don't want people using that rather than texting.. Apple just says, "sorry, we won't allow it on iTunes" and that's that, no app. That sort of thing.
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Maybe someday Apple can just buy AT&T to solve that problem.
 
tickyholdago said:
It takes two years to certify devices for use with credit card transactions. Even assuming this process started when the iPhone was announced, there's still another year to go.
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These devices already exist, though. Last year, The A/C repair man had a (relatively) slim case that included a built-in CC reader & BC reader. The case held some sort of UMPC that accepted input from the case and transmitted it for CC auth.

All that is needed is a slimmer/sleeker case that holds the iP/T (until Apple comes out with a slightly bigger Tablet)
 
dukishdary said:
this may have been asked already but is anyone going to be able to broadcast this live???
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I was wondering about this as well. Obviously not live, but I'm hoping that we'll be able to watch a stream of the event later, like MWSF and WWDC.
 
At first, I also assumed that apps would be sold and/or downloaded exclusively through an area on the iTunes store. However, I've given it more thought and I don't see that being the way it'll be for several reasons.

First up, Apple appears to be emphasizing the enterprise in this upcoming event. Lots of businesses like to develop custom applications for their end users to run their business. These people aren't going to want these kinds of apps listed in some kind of public directory. They'll want to distribute these apps privately.

Secondly, if Apple seriously wants iPhone development to be huge they wouldn't create some kind of manual approval process. This would only limit and slow down available titles.

Here's what I expect them to do:

1. The SDK will be free but each developer will have a unique DRM-style code embedded into their apps. They will have to register this code with Apple before they can compile their applications. This does two things: it guarentees the apps were developed using only Apple approved APIs and also gives Apple a mechanism (via software updates) to dis-allow apps from being run by rouge developers retroactively.

2. Developers will release their apps themselves through the web. If apps do show up at all in iTunes those might represent an option/open multi-developer maintained area similar to the webapps page hosted on Apple.com. This would prevent issues of competition conflict between developers who might cry foul when one developer gets special treatment over another.

3. The apps themselves will come as a kind of installer file with a new extension registered with iTunes. Double clicking this file will open it in iTunes where the file will be added to the user's library of apps. At the same time, the file's developer key will be checked against Apple's servers to make sure the developer is legit and not flagged as harmful.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
 
Just to clear up:

I was quoted a lot in the early pages of this forum for thinking that we shouldn't have to pay for SKD apps.

i suppose what i meant was, it seems like a slight step backwards from the current 'Installer' situation on jailbroken iPhones, where all apps are freely made.

in respect of this, i understand for larger apps, with a great deal of functionality, and which have cost lots of money and time to create, i would think paying would be fine, as long as Apple don't take more than a very small percentage for them selves.

I think it would be wrong for Apple to charge a lot for the iPhone, then take a percentage of AT+T, O2, T-Mobile, Oranges money, then take some more for ringtones, and now charge for Apps which they havent made them selves.

i really hope lots of developers will be able to create free, or VERY cheap apps still, and apple arn't greedy with the money earned
 
It was nice knowin' ya, Palm/PocketPC
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How about "hey palm how are you? long time no see." I have been using a windows mobile smartphone, and StyleTap (palm emulation software) is considering an iPhone release.

Immediatley hundreds of thousands of apps would be available for the iPhone if this comes out.

They are probably waiting on the SDk.

That could be pretty awesome.
 
elcid said:
Just to name some without opening my MB. My whole OSX expierence, except for the OS is free. Oh and office. So why should people who develop iPhone apps be any different. Give them the option to be free, because all nifty apps start free then gain a following.
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there is a slight flaw here. the OS on your iphone is not the same OS that is on your desktop. So don't expect to do the same things you are doing on your desktop, with your iphone. You can't compare the two. and it's best we get that idea out of our heads. (less disappointment)

There are things we are giving up by going with the iphone version of OSX. It'll be apple's decision if free/open-software happens to be one of those things we are giving up. We will know soon enough. But from the looks of it, apple wants full control of what gets installed and what doesn't
 
MrT8064 said:
Apple DOWN 80$ since December.
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Yeah, but this happens all the time... I bought my first shares when AAPL was cycling between $17 and $21


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I doubt that this is the release of the SDK.

The roadmap picture clearly shows the SDK as the mid-point, so at best this is looking like an announcement of things to come.

As much as I hate it, it looks like a good while before the SDK is out, perhaps 2 to 3 weeks after this event. I guess those reports of the delayed SDK were true, we'll see..
 
Bernie-Mac said:
Every one of the apps on installer is free. Apple should implement what installer does, make them free but accept donations, a lot of developers have received donations that have funded their apps and therefore made them free for the rest of us. If apple charges for apps, its back to jailbreaking for me, im not paying money for something i can get for free.
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That's fine if all you want are shareware quality apps to play around with. Tell me what business will want to equip their employees with iPhones if there are no "ENTERPRISE" tools available for it? Hint...those types of tools aren't paid for with paypal donations ;)
 
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