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"Face facts mate, Steve Jobs and o2 are raping you."

Good lord man, call a waaaaah-mbulance.
Old saying goes - You can't rape the willing.

I'm enjoying my iPhone, have since day one. EDGE is slow, but I'm getting "slow" service where before I had none. Wi-Fi is great, not as fast as my MBP, but fast. This phone is the most amazing thing I've ever put in my pocket.

I thought y'all over there would be elated to have the iPhone "officially" in your country. Sucks to be y'all I guess, better luck next time.

Z
 
Urghh that's the most shocking deal imaginable, I was expecting the bad tariffs, O2 don't have any good tariffs, but 269 for the handset too is seriously laughable.

Over 18 months
T-Mobile : Flext + Web & Walk with BB 8800g (yeah not best phone, but it's 2g) - 675 quid
16 Gig Touch : 269
Total - 944

O2 for a similar (45 pound one) with iPhone
Tariff - 810
8 Gig iPhone: 269
Total - 1079

Hmm let me think, touch, with more storage and a phone by the end of the month for less, or wait until november, get half the storage, on a crap network hmm let me think... Tough decision.

If you want to buy the iPhone go ahead, it's a shockingly bad deal though.
 
It is easy to unlock. I did mine, just landed in the UK 3 hours ago, and am happily using a spare Virgin pay-as-you-go sim card in it.

Thanks iPhone Dev Team!

Yeah gee thanks for holding up everyone else. You unlockers complain about how unfair the contracts and rates are but you happily use outrageously more expensive pay-as-you-go plans with your unlocked phone.

I am so looking looking forward to Apple locking the iPhone back up with the new firmware; seems fair, in exchange for holding he rest of us up, you can carry around your $400 paperweight for a few months until someone breaks the lock again.
 
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I thought y'all over there would be elated to have the iPhone "officially" in your country. Sucks to be y'all I guess, better luck next time.

Z

Why when the iPhone is pretty crappy handset at a price that dwarfs every other handset you can get here in the UK except when you buy them sim free. I see no benefit in purchasing this handset, so I wont be, if they hadn't released the Touch I'd be tempted, but most people are used to carrying two devices, and, for a similar tariff prices almost every other phone you can get here is free. So no I'm not elated, I'm suprised anyone agreed to this deal, they will sell as a bit of a fashion thing, but you can get a much better deal by the end of next week by sticking with a seperate iPod and phone.

Edit: Had they subsidised the price of the iPhone and released on the higher tariffs for free, and on the lower tariffs for 50/60 then yes you would actually have a pretty good deal, it's the fact that the iPhone costs the same as the 16 gig iPod Touch, comes with half the storage, and you're stuck with O2, which, besides 3, is the worst network, and is definitely the worst for customer service, on some pretty poor tariffs, unless you use your phone primarily as a data device.
 
I think Apple could have had a massive sustainable hit on their hands with iphone if:

They hadn't partnered with anybody

They kept the iphone expensive, but left it up to the user what network/options they wanted to go with.

Currently, they are ripping us off! I get free ringtones on my current phone - why on earth are apple charging to convert a ring tone? Why are they ripping off the networks to get a percentage of their monthly premium?

Everything is just pure greed, and they'll pay for it when people basically say "Woah, ripoff" - the tide will turn, and pretty soon, if you have an iphone you're that "Dumb guy who doesn't recognise value for money" Especially, that attitude will be in europe.

Imagine if they hadn't got greedy, the longevity of the iphone could have been massive. It's not THAT good of a product to rip people off this much. It's really hurt my belief in Apple's wanting to do the right thing for the consumer.

Quoted For Truth!





This settled my decision. I am not buying Apple's newest rip-off until they've sorted out a lot of other details first.
 
Show me a £15/m tariff that includes unlimited WiFi and DATA, and free voicemail?

I pay £15 a month with vodafone.
- Free Voicemail
- 500 min
- 500 texts
- 2MB per day data allowance

I am not buying an iPhone. Ever.
 
No sale

Calling 3G a power hog on one hand and promoting WiFi on the other.

Both kill your battery.

Free Iphone charging points at every hotspot?
 
Firstly to all those saying Apple should listen and put make it available on other netwroks, they won't, they are making a killing on the contracts according to the media reports, O2 were the only ones willing to sign at those levels.

To all those saying you won't buy it, Apple don't care. They will sell a lot of iPhones and make a good return, later they will bring out a new version that you may or may not buy, either way again they will make a lot of money on it.

For those saying all other phones in the UK are free, thats not true. When they first launch you pay a very high price for a decent phone even on the biggest tariffs, then the prices come down over the months until they can't give the things away.

3G is of not all its cracked up to be, if you use it you will know, and the phones are big and bulky.

As for moaning about O2's network and coverage, I always have 2 phones and on 2 networks at any one time, and over the last few years have tried them all. Personally I find O2 to be the best, I wouldn't use T-Mobile again if they were the only network available, Orange I had a lot of trouble with and at the time Voda were just expensive. Everyone will have different experiences with each network of course, but O2 is certainly not bad.

The pricing is not great, but any provider who had the iPhone would have priced at the same levels as Apple want some of the money!

Bottom line, Apple don't care if you don't like it, others do and will buy it and as a business althought their fan club is important making money is more important, if that means the product has to cut a few corners to maximise income then thats what they will do, as they always have done.

Personally I will wait for version 2 or 3 of the iPhone, it won't be long before they start talking about the next models and I really have no need for all the toys it can give me at the moment :)

Also, am I right in thinking that in the US you could buy an iPhone and activate it but then cancel the agreement within 30 days and it would all work still? Or is that just al features except the phone? Wondered if you could do that and put another O2 sim in it....
 
I agree. It’s a very good package. Everyone kraps on about £15 tariffs but it’s when you want use browsing or extra texts or roaming you get completely stiffed.... I currently pay £35 on Vodafone and never use up my 350 minutes but have to purchase a £25 extras pack for additional texts which don't cover texts sent outside the UK.... and don't mention roaming... if I go outside the country (which people do a lot when living in the UK) I get stiffed with calls rates and texts which are not included in the basic package...... so for a £55 tariff I often pay £225 per month ! – oh and I didn’t even mention voicemail… if someone leaves me a voicemail whilst I’m overseas this gets charged outside the tariff ! and when I listen to it same again ! also voicemail minutes are used for calls being left and retrieved on the basic tariff !...................... unlimited is a very good deal and free voicemail.

That's no correct.
Vodafone do 75p + UK rate when abroad in most popular destinations. I pay £15 a month ^ view up there ^

You should join vodafone - and talk to someone about a tariff. You're bringing all that on yourself.

I bet you'd moan though if it was 3G and needed charging twice a day.

Why would it need charging twice a day? No 3G phone needs that. Seriously, c'mon.
 
Looks to me like the dark blue is the 'high speed' coverage. Is this EDGE?
 

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You jest - voicemail usually costs me £10 per month at 12p/min !!!

:eek:

Dude, join a different network. How about voicemail minutes that a inclusive?

What are you anyway? £10 a month? I get the odd voicemail from my mum every now and then...
 
Over the EDGE

Divide and conquer as entrance strategy to Europe?
Steve is certainly pushing Apple-lovers over the EDGE with this deal.
It Mr. Jobs getting greedy and forgetting his audience?

Certainly the deal with O2 (and other European providers to come) will be good for the financials of Apple Inc, but without a value proposition to customers this strategy may backfire.
- No 3G
- Double dipping subscription fees
- Many alternatives (though not as sleek in design)
- What about usability when we travel accross the Federal Republic of Europe?

Is this our Christmas deal.

This time I will pass :mad:

Coen
 
Yeah gee thanks for holding up everyone else. You unlockers complain about how unfair the contracts and rates are but you happily use outrageously more expensive pay-as-you-go plans with your unlocked phone.

Not everyone cares about data-on-the-go. I have never used nor paid for data over the carrier network and don't see the need to do so now. Pretty much all places I go to have wifi, so for my purposes using an unlocked iPhone with my current contract is optimal.
 
I think Apple could have had a massive sustainable hit on their hands with iphone if:

They hadn't partnered with anybody

They kept the iphone expensive, but left it up to the user what network/options they wanted to go with.

Currently, they are ripping us off! I get free ringtones on my current phone - why on earth are apple charging to convert a ring tone? Why are they ripping off the networks to get a percentage of their monthly premium?

Everything is just pure greed, and they'll pay for it when people basically say "Woah, ripoff" - the tide will turn, and pretty soon, if you have an iphone you're that "Dumb guy who doesn't recognise value for money" Especially, that attitude will be in europe.

Imagine if they hadn't got greedy, the longevity of the iphone could have been massive. It's not THAT good of a product to rip people off this much. It's really hurt my belief in Apple's wanting to do the right thing for the consumer.

Nicely said.

Jobs saying that he wanted to partner with the best in the UK - O2???

I think you mean, wanted to rape someone as hard as possible. In the end... us.
 
Ok, so say you have a relative currently on holiday in Florida, and say I order an iPhone and it gets sent to them in the next 24hours, how much would it cost do you think? Whats the tax in florida?
 
These price plans are rediculous.

I get the same middle range plan (600mins and 500 texts) for £7.50/month on O2. Getting the iPhone works out at costing more than 10 times as much.

I know its good but its not 10 times better than having an iPod and a seperate phone.

Also i would still have about the same data plan. Basically nothing as EDGE is pretty much worthless. I can see where apple is coming from there thouh with concerns about the battery life if that was installed, but they won't sell anywhere here as they have in the US as a cause, but once they add 3G it will be fine and they will go like hot cakes.
 
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