iPhone Loyalty Rate Climbs to 87% as Switching to Android Slows

[I7guy]

Live in a society != survive. Go back upthread for a refresher of the context in which words are said.

Don’t need to read beyond this post. People don’t need a smartphone to live and/or survive in modern society.

They may not need it today, but countries around the world are increasingly relying on digital services for basic citizenship services. Also, anecdotal evidence yadda yadda.

Here in the United States you do not need a smartphone to live and or survive today. The fact is it makes certain things easier and also locks out those things where a smartphone IS required is also a double edged sword. But you pick your battles.

Edit: want to clarify if one didn’t have a smartphone I think it’s very difficult to live without a computer of some sort. So while I stand by my opinion if I had a cell phone I would also have a computer of some fashion.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

We have had several "third" options, they all failed, because they were not good.

Exactly. If there’s not a device on the market for a particular person, it’s because that individual is simply that far outside the core demographic these companies are targeting. And, there’s not enough people that want what they want for anyone to even attempt to design, build, package, market, and ship what they want around the world at a price that would make it profitable for that company to do so.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Not really, according to market realities, Android marketshare is sinking so much so there are rumors that most Android oems are ready to abandon their flagships moving forward.

Google’s already offering OEMs a cut of the search revenue. I wonder if they’ll increase the share so that they stay around or if they’re planning to have Pixel be it. If there’s profit in it, the non-Google hardware (especially with these RAM prices) is going to start drying up.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Here in the United States you do not need a smartphone to live and or survive today. The fact is it makes certain things easier and also locks out those things where a smartphone IS required is also a double edged sword. But you pick your battles.

Edit: want to clarify if one didn’t have a smartphone I think it’s very difficult to live without a computer of some sort. So while I stand by my opinion if I had a cell phone I would also have a computer of some fashion.

And, even a government required a smartphone, like if that became a thing, they still wouldn’t need an iPhone specifically. Any old Android phone is still a smartphone. And, if the government had the ability to, they could have companies inside the region build and offer the government phone that everyone should own or would be required to own (not the EU, of course, a region with regulators that wouldn’t outlaw it the day after it existed).

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Also spreading the risk a bit more, back in the days we had phones and OS from many countries. These days they are all from one country and control 99% of the market.

I’m sure the efforts of the EU and their focus on competition will have that number up from Two in the USA to… at least Two in the USA. By the end of the decade we could see two or even as many as two due to the competition driven by the DMA!

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Just a reminder that CIRP doesn’t canvas more than 1,000 folks at best. So, they may be truthful in communicating what their numbers say, they’re just never ever good numbers to start with.

Actually, a small correction. While factually true, the reality is that

CIRP routinely surveys 500-600 recent hardware buyers every quarter

So, while not more than 1,000 is accurate, it gives the impression that, at times, the number MAY be 900 or above. This is incorrect.

 

[Fallforward]

MacRumors got this wrong. the percentage of iPhone buyers converting from Android tells us nothing about iPhone loyalty. The linked survey says, "Note, we are counting the percentage of iPhone buyers that owned an Android smartphone when they bought their new iPhone."

Example: if 100% of iPhone owners who bought new smartphones bought iPhones (100% loyalty), it would still be possible for an additional 12% to come from Android. Or, if 80% of iPhone owners who bought new smartphones bought iPhones (80% loyalty) and 20% bought Android, it is still easily possible for 12% of all sales to be from Android owners.

To get loyalty, they would need to know the number of Android buyers who converted from Apple. Nobody asked them, it was not in their survey.

 

[Reverend Benny]

I’m sure the efforts of the EU and their focus on competition will have that number up from Two in the USA to… at least Two in the USA. By the end of the decade we could see two or even as many as two due to the competition driven by the DMA!

I don't think its the EU that will drive the number up, it's what happens in the US that will. And the third option could possible come from the US. One of the companies that has the money, knowledge and most things set is MS.

 

[germanbeer007]

Ohh no way

what does this have to do with loyalty? lmao such a terrible take