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I am surprised with all the anti-capitalism and eat the rich movements. You would figure these folks would not use a product from one of the most greedy capitalist companies in the world.
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The phones aren't free, just financed. For example just checked Verizon: iPhone 17 comes to $68 per month for 36 months with their "simple" plan. That's $2,448 for an $800 iPhone.

Wow that’s insane. It was actually cheaper for me to get my phone through my carrier than to buy it from Apple. It will have cost me £958 by the end for a phone that launched at £999.
 
For me it’s not about the loyalty, it’s about money.
I would love to switch from my iPhone 15 PM to a S26 Ultra but I don’t want to pay 50USD a month just because I currently thinks Apple sucks on everything they do.

My current phone is payed and still functioning very good so I won’t switch even if I don’t like the company.
 
You know you don’t NEED Apple, right? Why don’t you buy a Fairphone instead? Or you also CAN live without a smartphone. But you prefer the comfort a smartphone allows…
In 2026 you cannot live without a smartphone. Even for older people, it is becoming increasingly difficult to accomplish basic tasks without relying on a smartphone or a relative who owns one, because so much of society relies on them.
So no, it's not just a preference.
 
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I’ve never regretted buying any of my Apple products but have certainly regretted buying things from the competition.
iPhone 6 has entered the chat.

I hated and regretted that since its Day 1. Traded for my 2016 SE, paid cash in hand to have it with zero debt and unlocked. Been happy since.
 
At the time, I had a work Windows phone, partner had an iPhone, and I had both Android and iPhone personal phones.

What I hated was using three different satnav/map apps. Ended up using what has now become HereWeGo - which ran on all three and one of the few on Windows phones.

I'd likely be happy on a third-party phone and OS. Especially if it were as open as possible. But lack of apps is critical tor emember some apps we have no choice over - like UK's NHS apps. If they do not produce a version which works on some open OS, we can't use them. And no other apps do the same job. (In some areas, alternatives can replace some of the facilities.) In that particular case, I can do quite a lot on a browser-based interface - but not everything

One of the nice things about GrapheneOS is you can install GMS and the play store on one of your profiles so you can use apps that you couldn't normally use on a typical non-GMS ROM. GrapheneOS does not have root privileges and it's bootloader is locked
It’s Android-based
It is but its de-googled which is one of it's appeals
 
I think posts/comments for topics like these should require people to also add their “age brackets” to their comments. A 52 year old person has a vastly different world view than a 19 year old. “Settled [on a platform] long ago” is meaningful for a 43 year old than a 22 year old.
Bracket should be in smaller 6-year ranges because 21 and 49 ain’t the same category of person (don’t believe the TV ratings people).

Add some quantitative factors so everyone isn’t thinking “every is 32 like me and we have the same values and worldviews”. It means nothing when UserA prefers switching every 16 months vs. UserB who has happily settled.

UserA is 23 (and no kids/family) and enormous disposable income and loves experimenting with variety and options to get the most effect out of their daily belongings; excitement comes from the attention and energy to create something new that wasn’t there before — versus UserB who has 2 grandkids and values time and experiences with them and so doesn’t have the care to be disrupting their regularly scheduled programming with minutiae like a stupid mobile device; take photos and videos of meaningful moments and move along.

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46-51 (me; I’ll start!)
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93+: You win the prize!

Until then, all of this means nothing.
 
What many android users do not understand is that Apple has created a single identity.

Android has many identities.

If I walk into coffee shop, I gurantee you in some kind of way, everyone who it utilizing an Apple product for their visit I can interact with or have something in common with. It just comes with the Apple ecosystem.
same with android just that its in a umbrella community with multiple different brands and different people who in itself support andriod and its roots and its even better when you can chat to people across communities and actually be interested in the device they own, not just as another status symbol that people flex online.

Android users have the power, sure, they have the freedom, yes, they have the technology, certainly, and the fanciness of iPhone but they do not have the connectivity, the community, what makes communication important to begin with a desire to interact with another.
there many ways to communicate with other people, not just imessage and the apple ecosystem and plus its getting increasingly better to communicate between iPhone and andriod like RCS and iphone to android airdrop support.

With an Apple device, you are someone, but anything else, you are simply anyone to everyone.
Nope, I have had iphone users come upto me in past asking what spinning liquid at the back of my redmagic 11 pro is (its liquid cooling that is to cool down the battery and act like a cooling solution when a Peltier cooler is put at the back) and what is name of the brand. iPhone is more seen as a handshake interaction but apple users don't really reflect the technology that goes into the phone in contrast to android users.
 
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same with android just that its in a umbrella community with multiple different brands and different people who in itself support andriod and its roots and its even better when you can chat to people across communities and actually be interested in the device they own, not just as another status symbol that people flex online.


there many ways to communicate with other people, not just imessage and the apple ecosystem and plus its getting increasingly better to communicate between iPhone and andriod like RCS and iphone to android airdrop support.


Nope, I have had iphone users come upto me in past asking what spinning liquid at the back of my redmagic 11 pro is (its liquid cooling that is to cool down the battery and act like a cooling solution when a Peltier cooler is put at the back) and what is name of the brand. iPhone is more seen as a handshake interaction but apple users don't really reflect the technology that goes into the phone in contrast to android users.

I agree with you completely absolutely and I agree with your perspective, I have never owned an Android and I never will.
 
It’s for one month, “in February 2026.” Your statement was “Tesla leads,” which is not true. Stop doing manipulation… I was showing you statistics for the entire 2025 year…

You can say “Tesla leads” only when you will have statistics for the whole current year…
Stop changing the narrative. I showed Tesla satisfaction data as of February 2026 and sales in 2026. Pick your dataset that supports your debating point. Your data is as of 2025. Satisfaction data is a point in time while the sales presented are cumulative.
 
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Ohh no way
I don't understand. Your graphic has nothing to do with manufacturer brand loyalty, but rather highest selling individual car models. It doesn't address the issue you were attacking in the original post. Don't get me wrong, I intensely dislike Tesla and Elon Musk, but the issue is manufacturer brand loyalty.
 
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I don't understand. Your graphic has nothing to do with manufacturer brand loyalty, but rather highest selling individual car models. It doesn't address the issue you were attacking in the original post. Don't get me wrong, I intensely dislike Tesla and Elon Musk, but the issue is manufacturer brand loyalty.

I agree. In looking at brand loyalty Tesla like Apple is up there.
 
Stop changing the narrative. I showed Tesla satisfaction data as of February 2026 and sales in 2026. Pick your dataset that supports your debating point. Your data is as of 2025. Satisfaction data is a point in time while the sales presented are cumulative.

Your statement in your posts was TESLA LEADS! Which is absolutely not, I repeat it for you one more time - you can’t do any statement of leading anything when you doesn’t have statistic for the whole year of sold cars. What was in one month in February 2026 it is doesn’t matter cuz it is a little part of general statistic…

Now I will show you statistic for the first half of 2026. Please stop doing non logic posts if you doesn’t know about it… I see your trolling behaviour not a first time here…
 

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I have no reason to use iPhone anyways, I like the variety of things that I can do on android and the many unique features when switching from brand to brand. Plus I have no intention of sliding myself into an ecosystem despite having a macbook.

If it feels like a prison, I'm moving out.
Ecosystems aren't really a prison though. They just offer extra conveniences that are very attractive and compelling. One can leave at anytime, but must just give up those conveniences (which they never would have had without the ecosystem). So the only thing compelling one to stay in an ecosystem is one's desire for convenience.
 
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