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If not labor then what? Too many regulations?

If the cost of labor is meaningless why did so much manufacturing move to China?
In short, it is cheaper to manufacture in China. Maybe saves 5% off total manufacturing cost. The consumer never sees this savings but it is 5% more income for the manufacturer. THAT is why companies manufacture in China... so they can be 5% more profitable... not to sell products at a lower price.
 
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Uh, because Trump JUST took office two days ago, and has implemented ZERO trade policies so far. Giant companies don't throw together plans for 7 billion dollar manufacturing sites based on heresay, in a matter of days. These plans have likely been in the works for months. And Tim Cook has stated publicly for years that he would like to do more manufacturing in the US and that Apple was exploring possibilities where it might make sense. This is clearly one of those possibilities.

Wrong! Executive order on TPP happened while everyone was arguing over crowd sizes lol. Keep focusing on the insignificant things and Trump will run circles around you. Everyone is about to get a hard lesson on how business operates in this country. Threat of tariffs, 15% corporate rate coming, Paris accord about to go bye bye. Do you want me to go on? Obamacare mandate most likely gone tomorrow, E-verify mandate coming (tomorrow), immigration executive order this week.

Those you who are investors know what I mean, anyone else get an emergency Sat night mother of all briefings on what to expect this week?
 
And the largest economy along with work force and plenty of manufacturing plants.

LOL. What manufacturing is in CA outside of farming? The drought will take care of that. CA's environmental nuts are taking care of moving manufacturing elsewhere. Seriously, outside of Tesla what plants are in CA? If CA left today we'd be in some pain but things would work out fine. We'd buy our produce from elsewhere, wine from the millions of vineyards not in CA, and well, you can have Hollywood...
 
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Another thought, what city has 30-50,000 people available to work in this huge factory. Does any city in America have that many out of work at this time? This isn't 2008 when cities like Vegas literally had over 100,000 unemployment.
(Please don't quote me on the number), just for reference.
Oh yes, they said they would like to build in the middle of Pennsylvania. No way in gods green earth will they find 30 thousand much less than 50 thousand in the middle of that state.

That number isn't how many will be working at the factory. It is a guess at the number of people used from the design, planning, construction, transportation, possible temporary increase in local jobs where they are building and jobs all through the supply chain after the factory is open.
 
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Oh yes, I'm sure that they would love to spend many thousands of dollars getting degrees just to get a job that has nothing to do with their chosen profession at 10-12 bucks an hour.
Or they will put those supply chain, business, AI, manufacturing, and other degrees to work building, running, maintaing, and even staffing those plants. Or even maybe do some design work on how to optimize the iPhone production.
 
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Wrong! Executive order on TPP happened while everyone was arguing over crowd sizes lol.

I noticed that, but many people disliked parts of the TPP, which were not entirely related to free trade policies. Criticism of TPP wasn't confined to right wing politics.
 
Hmmmm;
Since 1681 when William Penn was given the land that bares his name, the taxes have been quite high. As of January 2017, Pennsylvania has the highes fuel tax in the country at 58 cents per gallon on gasoline, and a WHOPPING 74 cents on diesel. And what do the people get for all that tax? Toll I-76 costs over 175 dollars for the entire state. I-80 is total garbage, and the new bridges aren't even flat and smooth transition. Most of the two lane roads are so terrible that the speed limit is 45 miles per hour..

PS: I-76 (PA Turnpike) is separate from the rest of the roads - totally self funded and nowhere near $175 to go from NJ to OH. It's $51.85 cash or $37.03 EZ-Pass for a car to go from NJ to OH. Yes it's BS our gas tax is so high And our property taxes ain't got nothing on our neighbors to the left (NJ) and the rest of our tripe about our roads is BS. They are bad but plenty of 2 lane roads are 55+.
 
I cannot believe anyone believes manufacturing labor cost represents a substantial part of final cost of iPhones. Yeah, maybe an iPhone will cost $20 more. Big deal.

Trust me! It will be a lot more than $20. We are talking about $100+
It is normal for them to work 16 hours a day. Apple need to rush production! We are talking about labors from no benefits and labor protection to all kind of stuff.
 
PS: I-76 (PA Turnpike) is separate from the rest of the roads - totally self funded and nowhere near $175 to go from NJ to OH. It's $51.85 cash or $37.03 EZ-Pass for a car to go from NJ to OH. Yes it's BS our gas tax is so high And our property taxes ain't got nothing on our neighbors to the left (NJ) and the rest of our tripe about our roads is BS. They are bad but plenty of 2 lane roads are 55+.

I drive a semi. It costs that much for us.
 
So, iPhone costs are going up to please a portion that refuses to understand menial jobs will be gone now and refused to learn the skills to pursue a high-paying job?

No, thanks. You can't go against technology advancement.
 
That last big resort in Vegas built by MGM, cost about 7 billion. But that resort is bringing in millions of dollars daily to pay for itself. (Of course, Dubai) bought into it as well.

A 7 billion dollar factory has to get paid for by someone, and unlike gamblers, high end shoppers, and high end rooms, the cost will have to be passed on I would venture.
But of course Tesla's giga factory is costing around 5 billion and it's supposed to reduce the cost of manufacturing batteries.
Unless Foxconn, will be able to manufacture for other companies, I don't see the cost of the iPhone coming down.

Another thought, what city has 30-50,000 people available to work in this huge factory. Does any city in America have that many out of work at this time? This isn't 2008 when cities like Vegas literally had over 100,000 unemployment.
(Please don't quote me on the number), just for reference.
Oh yes, they said they would like to build in the middle of Pennsylvania. No way in gods green earth will they find 30 thousand much less than 50 thousand in the middle of that state.

Yes, there are that many unemployed in certain areas. The actual percentage of people both looking and who have given up on looking for employment is around 25 percent of the country. It would be great if this was built near a largely impoverished area like Chicago. Most youth crime is related to too much free time around bad influences.
 
More jobs.... Foxconn extends to U.S.. hopefully supplier/delays will now be a thing of the past.... (hopefully)
 
I think that a second term is becoming a safe bet. At this point Pence winning in 2024 is a possibility...
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Let's see how much of our new president's ambitious agenda he can realistically achieve with all the roadblocks the vested interests are sure to put up. While I'm personally glad to see someone in the White House who's beholden to no one, appears to be a people's president, speaks his mind rather than tell us what we want to hear (and then does the opposite), I'm also a realist and will be more than content if he can make major inroads towards implementing only just half of his agenda during the next four years.

If he can inject new life in our domestic manufacturing sectors, stop the insane flow of illegal newcomers, negotiate better trade deals for the US, keep us safe from calamitous terrorist attacks, and effectively deal with the likes of North Korea and Iran, I will be more than impressed, and he will have my vote again in 2020.

If history tells us anything however, it is that the future is not merely uncertain, but highly unpredictable as well, so I'm holding my breath while I pray for our leader's continued good health, and hope he can steer clear of scandals or conflicts of interest that could tarnish his administration and would impact his re-election chances thus depriving him of the opportunity to finish his intended agenda.

It is also no secret that those who really control our future are less than ecstatic, to use the understatement of the century, about Donald Trump's election victory, and there is no doubt in many people's minds that the powers that be will leave no stone unturned to either eliminate him, or render him powerless. And if the unthinkable were to happen to our new president before he can 'rock the boat', there will not be a soul alive who will buy the official explanation of "some crazy nut who acted alone", or whatever other semi-plausible explanation we will be fed.
 
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Trust me! It will be a lot more than $20. We are talking about $100+
It is normal for them to work 16 hours a day. Apple need to rush production! We are talking about labors from no benefits and labor protection to all kind of stuff.
Outside of automation, there is likely less than an hour of manual assembly per iPhone. You don't have people manually soldering components to boards (all automated). Basically laborers drop in the logic board, glue in battery, connect ribbon cables, and fit the display. Maybe 20 minutes of work per phone.

Let's assume labor is likely around 5% of total cost of final product (it is probably far less), that means $750x0.05= $37.50. Apple is currently paying someone $37.50 per phone they assemble. I would guess a person could assemble 3 phones per hour. $37.50x3= $112.50. Apple is paying $112.50 per hour to assemble iPhones... that is a decent wage even for us lazy Americans.
 
So, iPhone costs are going up to please a portion that refuses to understand menial jobs will be gone now and refused to learn the skills to pursue a high-paying job?

No, thanks. You can't go against technology advancement.

It's very elitist to think that everyone has a choice in between getting a "menial" job or a high paying job. Getting out of poverty is a difficult thing, something, I assume, you have never had to deal with by your comment. On another note, your comment also suggests that you know nothing about how the economy works. If everyone had high paying jobs then who would wash cars, clean restrooms, or how about teachers? All important jobs that are not high paying.
 
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Just like how the wall in Germany didn't come down because The Gipper said "...tear this wall down..." Decisions like this this will happen no matter who is in office.

Here is a fun fact. Presidents really don't have anything to do with the economy. They take credit when it is doing good. And get blamed when it is doing bad. Congress is the one responsible for much of what happens in the economy.

There is a political leadership and strategies that drive the economy down or up also it has to do with moral of the people it seems the moral of the American people is somehow better since the election.
 
Well, one thing I see when there will more Apple (by third party companies like Foxconn) manufacturing here in the US, there will fewer leaks of Apple products.
 
I think that a second term is becoming a safe bet. At this point Pence winning in 2024 is a possibility...
As all the Trump supporters have been saying for three months - let's wait and see how he does.

Your predictions are way too premature. The book on one-year impeachment is still taking bets.
 
So, iPhone costs are going up to please a portion that refuses to understand menial jobs will be gone now and refused to learn the skills to pursue a high-paying job?

No, thanks. You can't go against technology advancement.

Corporations do whatever they think is in their best interest. Their board doesn't care what anyone else thinks, even if they are eager to cash in on any resulting PR benefit.
 
Well, one thing I see when there will more Apple (by third party companies like Foxconn) manufacturing here in the US, there will fewer leaks of Apple products.
Uh - the production will still be done by third-party companies, like Foxconn.

You don't think that Apple is going to run its own manufacturing plants for iPhones, do you? Seriously, do you ??!?? That's just not the way things work these days.
 
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It's very elitist to think that everyone has a choice in between getting a "menial" job or a high paying job. Getting out of poverty is a difficult thing, something, I assume, you have never had to deal with by your comment. On another note, your comment also suggests that you know nothing about how the economy works. If everyone had high paying jobs then who would wash cars, clean restrooms, or how about teachers? All important jobs that are not high paying.

Nobody has yet addressed this: Who will make the dongles?
 
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