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Mostly lower (or non existent) regulations regarding environmental and workers protection plus the fact that you can get a plant/factory plus housing for workers running in less then a year. With the rise of the yuan, labor costs in china compared to for ex the US are more or less the same (for low or non trained factory workers).

Also China is a relatively safe and stable society in comparison to e.g. Mexico or other Middle / South American countries - that's why China is favoured even though the latter countries also don't have to high regulatory standards.

I lived in Shenzhen for 4 years and altogether in china for nearly 10 years.
foxcon workers on average get back 2:50 an hour. Hardly the f****** same.

Would love to see trump etc try and portray that kind of wage as a "win"
 
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Crazy, why bring back sweatshops to United Sates so you have to pay $500 more for a product.

China understands there is no future in this kind of production, that why they have so many engineering graduates.
 
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Liberalism is the equivalent of a mental disorder....

Nothing that I could come up with, for an example of stupidity, would be better than the existence of the quote above. Conservatism, to this extreme, is dangerous.

Edit: Changed my original post.
 
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I cannot believe anyone believes manufacturing labor cost represents a substantial part of final cost of iPhones. Yeah, maybe an iPhone will cost $20 more. Big deal.

It would be good to see some solid figures. Given how many iPhones Foxconn makes for Apple, the economy of scale should work in favour of only a small price increase, right?
 
But the question is are we ready to pay $2000? How do we feel if the iPhone price is $2000 is US and the rest of the world gets it for $650? Foriegn factories are not going to be closed they are expanding as well if you observe the statement Foxconn is going to expand in china and it is planning to commence its operations in India. I see the only motive of this move is tax cuts and some corporate perks. Business is all about profits they are not doing charity.


Lol.. That is what they should do. Make the iPhones in America and charge $2000-3000 for each iPhone and make the MacBooks in America and charge $5000-7000 for them in America. Keep the prices the same for the rest of the world and make them in China for the rest of the world. See how the American Trump lovers would like that then lol.. Just watch how many lawsuits pop up within the first 6-12 months lol..

I hope you guys realize that your numbers are extremely silly. They assemble mac pros in Texas. They went up $500, but they also went up $300 on each of the prior two major refreshes. If those numbers were remotely close to accurate, it would be a non-starter.
 
I cannot believe anyone believes manufacturing labor cost represents a substantial part of final cost of iPhones. Yeah, maybe an iPhone will cost $20 more. Big deal.

You really think labour cost is $20??

If that was the case, production would already be in US, close to where the design was made. Why ship something across the world, risk currency fluctuations and work with people who talk a strange language, if there was no money in it.

It's all about labour, cost and it's not just about assembling the phone. An iPhone consist of hundreds of components, such as sensors, display and batteries made by other companies. And those components need materials that people will need to transport and work in mines to bring up. Having it in China is much cheaper
 
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foxcon workers on average get back 2:50 an hour. Hardly the f****** same.

Would love to see trump etc try and portray that kind of wage as a "win"
A Macdonalds worker gets approx 7-9 US / hour BUT the Foxconn worker gets free accommodation in the plants dormitory plus food there. So taking this into consideration I think it's not so much cheaper in china as Foxconn also has to pay this.
 
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MacRumors-Apple CEO speaks!

Separately, this has zero to do with Trump, but watch stumpy fingers try to take all credit if it happens, as he uses his hands to hyponitise the masses.

If Trump would allow foreign held cash to pay for it then he rightfully will get the credit for this, this is not some investment.
 
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This is Ironic since Apple discontinued their displays.Plus, why is apple so tied to Foxconn
 
This is Ironic since Apple discontinued their displays.Plus, why is apple so tied to Foxconn
Foxconn nowadays is pretty much the only electronic manufacturer. They produce everything from Intel motherboards, to the Xbox, Nintendo Wii or PlayStation. They can get prototypes out pretty fast and of course have production line capacity customers like Apple needs to get their iPhones to the market fast in numbers they need.
 
If future iPhones end up costing $1000 for base models, Apple won't be seeing my pocketbook until the Trump Administration is over and thats possibly 4 to 8 years, worst if the Republicans continue take control of government.
 
I was just reading in yahoo news that this plant would be manufacturing large screens as well for TV's, and quite possibly computer monitors.
If we go back to Teslas gigafactory, even though it's costing close to 5B, the price of lithium ion batteries will be virtually cut in half, all while doubling the current worlds output.
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You really think labour cost is $20??

If that was the case, production would already be in US, close to where the design was made. Why ship something across the world, risk currency fluctuations and work with people who talk a strange language, if there was no money in it.

It's all about labour, cost and it's not just about assembling the phone. An iPhone consist of hundreds of components, such as sensors, display and batteries made by other companies. And those components need materials that people will need to transport and work in mines to bring up. Having it in China is much cheaper


Not just about labor. We must also consider workers comp, health benefits, SS including Medicare and possible lawsuits.
 
I think that a second term is becoming a safe bet. At this point Pence winning in 2024 is a possibility...

Yes! It's not magic. America will prosper amazingly so long as we avoid having a President screwing us over 24/7 like we've been having at least since Reagan and plenty before that. Just give us something besides a traitor and we will do fine.
 
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They should put this in coal country and train the people there on 21st century jobs rather than 19th century ones. Win/win.
I think we should get all the obsolete jobs back, like the switchboard jobs, that would be bring back jobs to America and then, only then will we become great.

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1. These factories will largely be robotic.

2. Train these people on what exactly? How to suddenly know how to work as hardware and software engineers and robot maintenance workers instead of digging coal from the ground? The talent would certainly need to come from outside the area, but the candidates wouldn't want to live there because it's a pit.

3. How many job would this create? 200?
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I cannot believe you think that the cost of labor in the US is anywhere near as low as elsewhere.

Thank you for a thoughtful post. Don't know about only 200 jobs, but not five digit numbers.
Wishful thinking. These things have to be made without anybody breathing on it.

I posted many times that as long as the US does not change and improve it's education they will not be an attractive labor market. Most of what has to be assembled by hand is done by non Americans. Harvest, assembly lines, meat packers. etc.

Lip service is what people give who claim they would pay more if it was "American made".
Yeah, $ 3 for one Apple, (the fruit) because an American worker would expect OSHA to step in if they had to climb into trees multiple times to pick an Apple, hurt their back (allegedly) and no machine was available to do it for them. (Yes, sarcasm with a splash of truth)

Made in America is not even a quality mark!

Assembly work is very hard and parents usually want a better life for their children, so anybody who does work in assembly tries for their kids NOT having to do that. There goes the next generation.

They won't even learn to be engineers. Where are the 10,000s of support staff mass production requires. What area has 30,000 to 50,000 in one swoop to assemble mass production in the millions?

Lastly what do you do with all these people if a product cycle ends and what they are making is no longer sold in large numbers?

In my area there are not enough electricians, plumbers, masons and the like. They make a fortune as they can't even do all the jobs being offered to them. And, no American wants to do small jobs. Gotta big big money.

When I get an estimate from a corporation it's double than what it should really cost.

BTW: Whenever I finally get some tradesmen they are not American.

Again, education first. Then we talk!
 
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I cannot believe anyone believes manufacturing labor cost represents a substantial part of final cost of iPhones. Yeah, maybe an iPhone will cost $20 more. Big deal.
A person with that opinion needs to get into phone manufacturing business, because such a has a a firm grip on the economics of phone manufacturing. Competition to Foxconn, what should the name of the be?
 
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