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Insults are not just curse words or names. You are denigrating teens and me with stuff like this:

"But like I said, you are a teen, which means, in your eyes, you don't see the expenses nor do you understand/comprehend my point."

Go ahead, bring in a mod if you want to look at how you think I'm dumb and can't "comprehend" just because I'm a teen.

Wow. You're a teen. Now the rest of your posts make a bit more sense.
 
Yeah

Though I'm an iPhone user and fan - Apple needs to get on the stick.
Don't count Samsung out.

I recently saw a Korean drama called "Missing You" (or "I Miss You" if you're on Drama Fever) sort of a murder mystery melodrama that was virtually a 20 episode extended commercial for the Galaxy Note II with every major character having a Galaxy note and certain features of the phone serving as major plot points in the drama.

I mean these phones were as heavily featured as some of the characters! In some cases, some of the characters weren't featured as much as the phones!

Right down to the two love interests who were in different places have their Galaxy phones play "their song" at the same time every night thru the external speaker, one segment when a criminal suspect calls the male protagonist who is a detective he has the ability to during a phone call to record the audio call on the phone to an mp3 file to be forensically analyzed later, extended texting and video messaging and all kinds of things. Literally every character had one of these things.

Product placement in a popular television show can influence public opinion.
 
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To which you said of teens: Their needs is centered around Facebook (which a desktop will do) and gossip

I can read between the lines of your posts about what you think about teens.

The sad thing is most teens are consider themselves awesome at reading between the lines, but in reality it's nothing to be read - it's just their own insecurities shining through.

Fact is, smartphones can be a very productive tool for people who are working. They're rarely a necessary productivity booster for teens. Don't be sad about it, it's just the way it is.
 
Gotta love this:

Another key strategy used by Samsung [is] to illustrate how absurd it is to wait in line for a smartphone.

Yeah, much better to go somewhere else and buy stuff no one obviously wants.

This article is high on opinion and scant on just about anything else, especially data. And when they suggest the surface tablet as being on anyone's wish list - let alone teens - you know something's up

Instead of a Forbes fluff piece, how about something that actually has data to back up it's claims.
 
Exactly.



I said teens. I need an iPhone due to work. I have to use email and other stuff on it. Give me a good reason a teen would need an iPhone for? Please don't say school (unless you are in college and even then its a reach).

Why would you NEED a phone for email? There are many other ways to do email. What did you do before phones could do email?

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Fact is, smartphones can be a very productive tool for people who are working. They're rarely a necessary productivity booster for teens. Don't be sad about it, it's just the way it is.

It's rarely a productivity booster for adults also.
 
The age discrimination from some of the people in this thread is horrid. None of you "need" smartphones, you just want one. To think that you are superior because of your age is laughable and prejudiced.
 
Why would you NEED a phone for email? There are many other ways to do email. What did you do before phones could do email?
Called people, sat in telephone queues, had to call people back, had to wait for people to call me back. Being able to have access to information straight away, or answering an e-mail on the go, is an immense productivity increase that means everyone involved, directly and indirectly, profits from it.

We don't need planes either, people crossed the Atlantic before that. But it's more efficient now.

It's rarely a productivity booster for adults also.
"Boohoo, adults play games on their smartphones too!"

Really?
 
The age discrimination from some of the people in this thread is horrid. None of you "need" smartphones, you just want one. To think that you are superior because of your age is laughable and prejudiced.

Took the words right out of my mouth... Exactly what I was thinking.
 
The age discrimination from some of the people in this thread is horrid. None of you "need" smartphones, you just want one. To think that you are superior because of your age is laughable and prejudiced.

You'll get it when you're older, don't worry.
 
The sad thing is most teens are consider themselves awesome at reading between the lines, but in reality it's nothing to be read - it's just their own insecurities shining through.

Fact is, smartphones can be a very productive tool for people who are working. They're rarely a necessary productivity booster for teens. Don't be sad about it, it's just the way it is.

Your posts make you seem like a supremacist/elitist. It's annoying.
 
It's not age discrimination. We have just been through your age phase before and realize we are different people then. With age and life experiences, you start to figure out your real priorities. That's all.
 
"Boohoo, adults play games on their smartphones too!"

Really?

Ok, so why fault the youth for doing it and not the adults? Youth productivity can't be increased with a smartphone and only adults can, even if they play games, text and facebook just like youth do? Seems like a silly argument.
 
Your posts make you seem like a supremacist/elitist. It's annoying.

I don't think so. On the other hand I'm not, as opposed to you, young enough to know everything.

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Ok, so why fault the youth for doing it and not the adults? Youth productivity can't be increased with a smartphone and only adults can, even if they play games, text and facebook just like youth do? Seems like a silly argument.

I'm not faulting teens and not adults for being unproductive, I'm simply stating that the necessity and the profit in terms of for instance increased productivity of having a smartphone (in general) doesn't exist for a teenager in the same sense that it does for someone who uses it for work.

I don't really understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.
 
I don't think so. On the other hand I'm not, as opposed to you, young enough to know everything.

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I'm not faulting teens and not adults for being unproductive, I'm simply stating that the necessity and the profit in terms of for instance increased productivity of having a smartphone (in general) doesn't exist for a teenager in the same sense that it does for someone who uses it for work.

I don't really understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.
I don't consider myself a spoiled "know-it-all" like some people these days...
 
I think why it doesn't appeal to teenagers anymore is the lack of customisation. I am sure majority of teenagers do not like being forced or doing things certain ways. Primarily why I believe I see more teenagers with Galaxys and other Android devices for this reason alone.
 
OP is right. Seeing my nieces and nephews during holidays, we always talk smartphones. They are high school age. Two years ago, no question they were ALL about iPhone's only, nothing else existed in their mind.

This past holiday season, total shocker turn around, every one of them, said the Galaxy line was on their Christmas wish list, and they all said iPhone seems outdated an the "out" thing, the Galaxy S3 is the "In" phone now. They joked, the iPhone is good for my old Mom.

Just funny, because not even a year or so ago, they wouldn't dare touch an Android phone, Apple's iPhone was God to them. Now fast forward to Christmas 2012, and complete opposite.

Weird they are all into the Samsung Galaxy S3 only, they don't talk or like the HTC or Motorola line of phones, to these teens it's all Galaxy S3 or Note 2. So Samsung must be doing some heavy marketing towards teens last year ?
 
I feel a few degrees dumber for reading that article...

Watch out Apple, the twihards are revolting!:rolleyes:
 
Here in the UK the trend with teenagers is much more towards Blackberry, they're cheap & can BBM their friends for free. Strangely, they think its cool though lol

Exactly that. LOL

Guys worried about the age of a chick when on the prowl & she is seemingly 18+?.... does she have a Blackberry? ...AVOID!
 
OP is right. Seeing my nieces and nephews during holidays, we always talk smartphones. They are high school age. Two years ago, no question they were ALL about iPhone's only, nothing else existed in their mind.

This past holiday season, total shocker turn around, every one of them, said the Galaxy line was on their Christmas wish list, and they all said iPhone seems outdated an the "out" thing, the Galaxy S3 is the "In" phone now. They joked, the iPhone is good for my old Mom.

Just funny, because not even a year or so ago, they wouldn't dare touch an Android phone, Apple's iPhone was God to them. Now fast forward to Christmas 2012, and complete opposite.

Weird they are all into the Samsung Galaxy S3 only, they don't talk or like the HTC or Motorola line of phones, to these teens it's all Galaxy S3 or Note 2. So Samsung must be doing some heavy marketing towards teens last year ?
You can keep the same OS and relative small size for only so long before you start losing customers. Sounds like RIM all over again if Apple isn't paying attention.

Makes me wonder if the rumored new iPhone colors this year would be enough to bring back those teens.
 
I forgot kids who have never paid a bill, paid taxes or had to put a roof over their families heads are the experts on matters relating to ESSENTIAL USE of anything.

Now... I must go and consult with my two year old on how to negotiate new mortgage arrangements and what household repairs are essential to daily needs.

If you don't pay for something out of your own hard earned, opinion accounts for the exact amount of cheese found growing on the moon.
 
OP is right. Seeing my nieces and nephews during holidays, we always talk smartphones. They are high school age. Two years ago, no question they were ALL about iPhone's only, nothing else existed in their mind.

This past holiday season, total shocker turn around, every one of them, said the Galaxy line was on their Christmas wish list, and they all said iPhone seems outdated an the "out" thing, the Galaxy S3 is the "In" phone now. They joked, the iPhone is good for my old Mom.

Just funny, because not even a year or so ago, they wouldn't dare touch an Android phone, Apple's iPhone was God to them. Now fast forward to Christmas 2012, and complete opposite.

Weird they are all into the Samsung Galaxy S3 only, they don't talk or like the HTC or Motorola line of phones, to these teens it's all Galaxy S3 or Note 2. So Samsung must be doing some heavy marketing towards teens last year ?
One word: Fad.
 
OP is right. Seeing my nieces and nephews during holidays, we always talk smartphones. They are high school age. Two years ago, no question they were ALL about iPhone's only, nothing else existed in their mind.

This past holiday season, total shocker turn around, every one of them, said the Galaxy line was on their Christmas wish list, and they all said iPhone seems outdated an the "out" thing, the Galaxy S3 is the "In" phone now. They joked, the iPhone is good for my old Mom.

Just funny, because not even a year or so ago, they wouldn't dare touch an Android phone, Apple's iPhone was God to them. Now fast forward to Christmas 2012, and complete opposite.

Weird they are all into the Samsung Galaxy S3 only, they don't talk or like the HTC or Motorola line of phones, to these teens it's all Galaxy S3 or Note 2. So Samsung must be doing some heavy marketing towards teens last year ?

Not entirely surprising. All it takes is an ad from Samsung making owning an iPhone seem uncool.

Done. Instantly uncool.

Teenagers can be sheep, easily manipulated through advertising and their need to fit in and seem cool.

Actually not unlike the average consumer either. Hence why everyone advertises. And Samsung has spent way more than anyone else. I still think they managed to work their magic on the Android community and paint themselves the poor little company fight the big evil Apple empire. I'm still amazed that folks have fallen for that given that Samsung is a much bigger conglomerate that makes everything, is 20% of the South Korean GDP, is run by a criminal convicted of bribery and miraculously 'pardoned', whose business ethics see nothing wrong imitating patented ideas as closely as possible.
 
And!

Not entirely surprising. All it takes is an ad from Samsung making owning an iPhone seem uncool.

Done. Instantly uncool.

Teenagers can be sheep, easily manipulated through advertising and their need to fit in and seem cool.

Actually not unlike the average consumer either. Hence why everyone advertises. And Samsung has spent way more than anyone else. I still think they managed to work their magic on the Android community and paint themselves the poor little company fight the big evil Apple empire. I'm still amazed that folks have fallen for that given that Samsung is a much bigger conglomerate that makes everything, is 20% of the South Korean GDP, is run by a criminal convicted of bribery and miraculously 'pardoned', whose business ethics see nothing wrong imitating patented ideas as closely as possible.

Not only is this spot on but the commonplace presence of the Samsung phones in dramas and comedies in South Korea (Samsung HQ: where it is seemingly very much influencing North America now that these are popular here) where it is being shown used by beautiful young actresses and actors and using the phones as a way to get the guy and girl they like is tantamount to "don't get stuck with an iphone, you'll end up single - get one of these, these are the phones for couples."
 
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