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iPhone on Target for Late June

heisetax said:
Why would it be delayed. Apple is no longer a compter company, but a small tinket company with its iPod & upcoming iPhone. You noticed that resourses wre not taken from the iPhone to bring out Mac OS 10.5 on time.
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You're new to Macs, I take it.

I've been using Macs since the early 90s and following Apple since around 95 and let me be very clear for the sake of any of you newer folks: Apple has ALWAYS made other products besides computers.

The iPhone, in this regard, is nothing new. At one time, Apple made printers and other peripherals. They branched out into eWorld, Newtons, CD players, Pippin, Mac TV, etc. And you know, they all flopped. But now that Apple is getting good at making these other products, people are freaking out. And nothing has really changed. They're just much better at it now.

So all this Chicken Little stuff I see is amusing at best, annoying at worst. Apple isn't going to abandon their computers, and delaying some products because they want to get the iPhone just right isn't sufficient evidence to start screaming about the sky falling. If you think that's in their plans, then tell me why the heck they just went through the agonizing and expensive process of moving the entire platform to Intel? Why go to the expense if Macs are on the chopping block?
 
matticus008 said:
And:
  • ProRes 422
  • IO-HD box
  • Lightweight OS X (chucking out all the extras to make the fat girl fly is a major upfront investment that leaves the door wide open for new devices running OS X--iPods, subnotebooks, tablets, other AppleTV models, or anything else Apple might decide to pursue)
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ProRes 422 is a pretty big deal! I'll have to add that to my list :)

IO-HD is not an Apple product, but rather one by AJA: http://www.aja.com (Though clearly done with Apple's collaboration.)

The iPhone's "OS X mobile" isn't exactly a new product by itself, but it IS a huge effort in my view, since it means OS X has now been ported to run on THREE processor architectures (PPC, Intel, and ARM). I expect we'll see it in new iPods this year. If there's time ;)
 
japanime said:
Isn't it amazing how Apple manages to keep the iPhone in the headlines when, truth be told, there really isn't anything new to report on it?
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Maybe Apple started the 'delay' rumours themselves, only to then quash them. :D
quantman said:
There are many millions waiting to buy the Iphone at its current price! I am in the market for at least 2.
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Ok, thanks. I'll just PM you my address. ;)
nagromme said:
Yeah, it's been 3.5 months, not much time left in 2007, and we've seen no sign of any products being released this year except:

* iPhone (with additional models like 3G planned)
* Leopard (and new iLife?)
* 8-core Macs
* Final Cut Server
* Final Cut Pro 6
* Soundtrack Pro 2
* DVD Studio Pro 4
* Motion 3
* Shuffles in colors
* DRM-free iTunes (and iTunes 7.1 adding misc. features like Complete My Album)
* 802.11n Airport Extreme
* Apple TV
* ProRes 422

I hope Apple can manage to squeeze more new products into the remaining 8.5 months of the year ;)
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Haha! :)
peestandingup said:
Im pretty sick of AT&T throwing in their 2 cents about the iPhone, making iPhone announcements, etc. I bet Steve isnt too happy with them as well.
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That's partnership, let them have their day in the sun too. :rolleyes:
 
nagromme said:
IO-HD is not an Apple product, but rather one by AJA: http://www.aja.com (Though clearly done with Apple's collaboration.)
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Right, but I was under the impression that the IO-HD box contained particular new hardware to support ProRes 422 which would require Apple development (since they're not much for sharing information with others in the development cycle). I suppose I hadn't really considered that the end product isn't Apple-labeled, though. In my head, I was treating Aja as a contractor (like Foxconn or PortalPlayer), so thanks for the correction!
 
heisetax said:
The iPhone may look cute & fill a small niche market, but is being late on the release of OS 10.5 late & looking like MS really worth the price. Because Apple is now a trinket company they seem not to be concerned with the loss of sales, loss of image & loss of keekping the Mac Computer User satisfied.
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Good grief, you mean a "trinket" like the iPod? You know, the device that basically saved the company from complete ruin? Enough with the whining already. Personally, I look forward to Apple's impending domination of the cell phone market.

Oh, I'm also a Mac Computer User, and I'm satisfied. A few more months to wait for Leopard? Yeah, I can handle it.

Too many drama queens around here.
 
This is so huge! It could easily be bigger than the iPod if you think in terms of the whole cell phone market. Investors just love the fact that it's still on time for its June release. Just another fine example that Apple continues to know how to do it right!

And when they do delay a release (like OSX's next release), it's for good reason. They'd rather upset investors (who probably mostly own PCs anyway) than release a crummy product.
 
nagromme said:
So here's the year's sequence of exciting stories on the iPhone ship schedule:

1. "iPhone expected in June."

2. "iPhone may be riddled with problems, for all anyone knows! As a result, iPhone now expected in June."

3. "iPhone expected in June."
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Yup... comical isn't it.
 
sorry, I don't agree

heisetax said:
Why would it be delayed. Apple is no longer a compter company, but a small tinket company with its iPod & upcoming iPhone. You noticed that resourses wre not taken from the iPhone to bring out Mac OS 10.5 on time. But rather the reverse was true. Resourses wre taken from the Mac OS development to be used on a limited market gadget.

The iPhone may look cute & fill a small niche market, but is being late on the release of OS 10.5 late & looking like MS really worth the price. Because Apple is now a trinket company they seem not to be concerned with the loss of sales, loss of image & loss of keekping the Mac Computer User satisfied.

I know only one person that has AT&T cell phone service & he doesnot have the money to purchase an iPhone. Those, like me, that have other service have no plans to purchase such a seemingly high priced cell phone gadget or trinket. My son had his cell phone & PDA tied together, but had to replace it because the cell phone no longer operated. When he purchased new he went with a Palm for his PDA needs & a separate cell phone for his phone needs. He said that he would never again get a combined device. Apple research seems to indicate that my son is in the minority group. I for one never went the route of a combined unit. I have a Palm PDA, an iPod for music & a Motorola cell phone for my phone needs. Why would I want to combine them? Cell phones needs to be replaced too often in my opinion to have large scale devices in the same package.

Bill the TaxMan
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I think more people outside the "apple community" are interested in the iPhone so that is why they are working on that more than the Mac OS. The people who are interested in buying the OS are already loyal to the company, the iPhone market is potential new Apple users that will want to buy a new computer a few months after they start using their iPhones.

Personally, I could not be more excited to have an all in one device. It will be nicer to carry only one thing, I don't have to remember 12 different devices before I leave the house, and I can carry a smaller purse! It sounds PERFECT to me!

You say that cell phones need to be replaced to offten. I've had mine for almost 2 years! My point is, if you take care of an electronic product, its going to last you a lot longer!
 
People that say cell phones must be replaced yearly or even less are just falling for the artificial buzz created by snazzy new phones that vendors pump out regularly. One is not obligated to get a new phone. My Sony Ericsson T-610 is really showing its age, yet never suddenly loses reception, boots faster than the T-Mobile MDA brick I've tested, is the perfect sized candybar form factor and has super battery life to this day, after over 3 years of solid use. At the end of the day, it's still an old, relatively decrepit device compared to the snappier stuff out now, but for general use is durable and reliable.

For marketing purposes, manufacturers create new phones almost daily, but for the average user, the adoption rate needn't be as fast. If I owned an iPhone, it's likely that I'd be using that phone for as long as all of the components work, whether it be 3 years or 6 years. I take good care of my electronics, so I'd have little to worry about in that span of time.
 
CuteMacGirl said:
I think more people outside the "apple community" are interested in the iPhone so that is why they are working on that more than the Mac OS. The people who are interested in buying the OS are already loyal to the company, the iPhone market is potential new Apple users that will want to buy a new computer a few months after they start using their iPhones.

Personally, I could not be more excited to have an all in one device. It will be nicer to carry only one thing, I don't have to remember 12 different devices before I leave the house, and I can carry a smaller purse! It sounds PERFECT to me!

You say that cell phones need to be replaced to offten. I've had mine for almost 2 years! My point is, if you take care of an electronic product, its going to last you a lot longer!
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Spot on. Though you're fortunate enough to carry a purse to hold device(s). If I don't carry my work bag with me or it's too warm for a jacket, I'm stuck with just my pants pockets. (I need to find an acceptable man-purse of some sort!) And that's another reason why I don't use my Palm Tungsten T3 for anything besides work.

Each iPhone sold is going to make Apple a much greater profit than each copy of Leopard sold, and the majority of those interested in the iPhone are likely not Mac users.

Since the iPhone runs OS X, it's possible that at least some of the programming work done for the iPhone can be rolled back into Leopard. And someone posted earlier that the UI innovations in the iPhone made Apple rethink some things about Leopard, which seems very plausible to me.

And another point about making your devices last a long time: besides taking good care of them, you have to choose wisely when you first purchase them. Like Maccus Aurelius, I'm still carrying around my Sony Ericsson T616 that I bought over three years ago. If I had bought the other phone I was considering at the time, which is whatever flip phone Motorola was offering at the time, no doubt I would have been forced to buy another phone by now. The fact that my T616 is holding up well has kept me from buying a Palm Treo 680 so I can wait for the iPhone to ship and see it for myself.
 
CuteMacGirl said:
You say that cell phones need to be replaced to offten. I've had mine for almost 2 years! My point is, if you take care of an electronic product, its going to last you a lot longer!
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lol wow, you kept a cell phone for 2 years. Most people do, as that's how long most contracts last, and very rarely do people keep one longer than that since you can get a new free/cheap one when starting a new contract. The point is that, even at lasting 2 years, 500 or 600 bucks is a lot to pay for some people.
 
peestandingup said:
Im pretty sick of AT&T throwing in their 2 cents about the iPhone, making iPhone announcements, etc. I bet Steve isnt too happy with them as well.

Hey, AT&T. Know your role. You arent making the iPhone or controlling it in anyway. You're just the carrier. So, lets leave all the iPhone talk to Apple, eh??
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In this case it served as corroberation on the iPhone timeliness in light of the Apple about face on the Leopard release date.

Rocketman
 
You say that cell phones need to be replaced to offten. I've had mine for almost 2 years! My point is said:
WORD!!! Take care of your products is right. I didn't have a cell till I turned 25! I waited on the hopes that the iPhone would come around. But I did thought ahead and purchased a cingular SLVR with iTunes. I figured they would carry the iPhone since they already are dealing with :apple:

I wonder what kindof klutzy insurace they will carry on it. I hope its like my old iPod service app plan?
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macwatcher said:
This is so huge! It could easily be bigger than the iPod if you think in terms of the whole cell phone market.
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The "whole cell phone market"?

The iPhone hasn't even been released yet, and it's already looking like last year's model to those of us here in Japan. And I think our friends in South Korea probably feel the same way.
 
NewbieNerd said:
lol wow, you kept a cell phone for 2 years. Most people do, as that's how long most contracts last, and very rarely do people keep one longer than that since you can get a new free/cheap one when starting a new contract. The point is that, even at lasting 2 years, 500 or 600 bucks is a lot to pay for some people.
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It's nothing new. Smart phones have been in that price range for several years now.
 
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