iPhone OS 4.0 Preview Event Scheduled for This Thursday

[Chwisch87]

The "dock" is here to stay.

There will be no major UI update. They just launched the iPad; if they were going to make major changes with the UI it would have been done with the iPad.

It will basically be nearly what we have now with a slight update to keep it ahead of the Android competition. Expose is really just a rumor and probably won't come to pass in the way you think it will.

There will be added but very limited multitasking support for apps approved for multitasking. It will be on an app and app basis and you will be limited to one app in the background.

iPhone OS 4.0 is really going to be a lot like snow leopard. It will be streamlining the OS and making it faster. Because it will use less ram, there will be a space that can be addressed by Apps running in the background. This will allow for a limited multitasking support function with less of a speed penalty. You can expect apple to do a dog and pony show about this similar to push notifications.

Added functions and improvements to existing apple apps ... sms, mail, and faster safari.

IDK what new API's they are planning but this is a "tink" on the tink/tock cycle to expect something interesting.

 

[Airforcekid]

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surely in that presentation, refreshing the Macbook (Pro) line is a great candidate for a "one more thing" in the end, or warm-up in the beginning.

I hope for a silent one Tuesday!

 

[DotCom2]

Oh god :S

I've got an iPhone 3G S coming tomorrow from an upgrade.

Think I should hold out until at least this Thursday or June at the most?

Let me know of your suggestions guys.

I think you just answered your own question.

 

[Eddieowns]

The one more thing is going to be multitasking. Quote me.

 

[rtabdo]

There will be no major UI update. They just launched the iPad; if they were going to make major changes with the UI it would have been done with the iPad.

It will basically be nearly what we have now with a slight update to keep it ahead of the Android competition. Expose is really just a rumor and probably won't come to pass in the way you think it will.

There will be added but very limited multitasking support for apps approved for multitasking. It will be on an app and app basis and you will be limited to one app in the background.

I disagree with part of your statement. I believe that the iPad OS was almost "pushed" out and that the real potential for this device lies within iPhone OS 4.0. If you take a look at the iPad without the 5 major apps (iTunes, Photos, Calendar, Mail, Safari) the OS itself or the UI is literally the same as an iPhone. In fact I actually believe that the date for OS 4.0 was strategic with the iPad launch. I think it wasn't ready to show at the Jan event and they really want to show the world "This is what we really had in mind"

I also highly believe there will be multi-tasking as you stated. Some approval process, so things like 3D games wont run in the background, but mail and messaging apps will.

I really do believe that what we will see in OS 4.0 will address many of the concerns that make the iPhone slightly behind Android in certain respects. It will be interesting to say the least, and I'm definitely looking forward to it.

 

[ghostface147]

Sounds to me that all I am going to get is more battery draining nonsense with this update.

 

[wovel]

2. You don't even have to cut and paste. When you click edit you can forward or delete a single text.

You can even forward more than one at a time, probablly considerably better than whatever phone he is claiming is better.

 

[fobfob]

I really feel like Apple is definitely feeling the heat and pressure from Android and other smart phone sales. It's kind of like they are saying oh crap, we can only keep everything secret for so long.

No, they did the same thing last year. This is not a "oh crap", this is the long haul of market competition. Sure, this event will inform the market and make people think twice before jumping into Android, but it is more than that, and is no knee jerk "oh crap" reaction.

The "dock" is here to stay.

There will be no major UI update. They just launched the iPad; if they were going to make major changes with the UI it would have been done with the iPad.

It will basically be nearly what we have now with a slight update

Agreed.

In fact I actually believe that the date for OS 4.0 was strategic with the iPad launch. I think it wasn't ready to show at the Jan event and they really want to show the world "This is what we really had in mind"

I don't understand how the timing of this could be seen as strategic with respect to the iPad. We've just seen and completed one of the world's most hyped product launches, and it's got to be in the top 10 technology launches if we could somehow measure "hype". During that period, Apple controlled every aspect of communication about the product to the point of requiring product testers and developers who had access to them to keep them in darkened locked rooms away from windows. It is no exaggeration to say that the eyes of the world were on Apple. Apple could have said and done anything and people would have swallowed it.

But there was no word of OS 4.0. And now, the media have gone home, the iPad is just another tech toy, and no doubt early adopters are already bitching about problems. It's all over. No-one cares anymore. Why would Apple wait till NOW to launch OS 4.0 if it contained major feature updates that would significantly enhance the iPad?

Let's take an example: Multitasking. The iPad has been lampooned from late night talk shows to virtually every tech blog about not including multitasking. If it was so close to being ready that it could be announced LESS THAN A WEEK after the iPad became available, don't you think that Apple would have preferred to avoid the negative press from launching without multitasking? You might argue that it is a new hype cycle and that it will start more buzz, but don't forget that first impressions count. I kept hearing negative comments from the uninformed public (ie. non tech people) about the iPhone not having cut/paste and MMS long after those features had been added to the iPhone. Why? Because the message was out and first impressions stick.

 

[acfusion29]

The "dock" is here to stay.

There will be no major UI update. They just launched the iPad; if they were going to make major changes with the UI it would have been done with the iPad.

It will basically be nearly what we have now with a slight update to keep it ahead of the Android competition. Expose is really just a rumor and probably won't come to pass in the way you think it will.

There will be added but very limited multitasking support for apps approved for multitasking. It will be on an app and app basis and you will be limited to one app in the background.

iPhone OS 4.0 is really going to be a lot like snow leopard. It will be streamlining the OS and making it faster. Because it will use less ram, there will be a space that can be addressed by Apps running in the background. This will allow for a limited multitasking support function with less of a speed penalty. You can expect apple to do a dog and pony show about this similar to push notifications.

Added functions and improvements to existing apple apps ... sms, mail, and faster safari.

IDK what new API's they are planning but this is a "tink" on the tink/tock cycle to expect something interesting.

I'm gonna have to disagree.

I believe there will be updated UI, along with updated apps (new Mail, Youtube app (better quality videos!), etc..)

 

[sartis]

Features I would like to see....

ok, here is my wishlist:
1. Multitasking
2. A more robust lock screen...besides the date and time, i would like # of unread emails, # of unread sms, upcoming calendar items, missed calls, etc...would be awesome if it was customizable.
3. An app launcher...I would like to see to an icon on the row at the bottom of the screen that would overlay the screen with my favorite apps. A scrolling area would be a nice touch as well. The search feature is nice but I see this as being faster.


Can't wait for Thursday!

 

[bludodge]

No, they did the same thing last year. This is not a "oh crap", this is the long haul of market competition. Sure, this event will inform the market and make people think twice before jumping into Android, but it is more than that, and is no knee jerk "oh crap" reaction.



Agreed.



I don't understand how the timing of this could be seen as strategic with respect to the iPad. We've just seen and completed one of the world's most hyped product launches, and it's got to be in the top 10 technology launches if we could somehow measure "hype". During that period, Apple controlled every aspect of communication about the product to the point of requiring product testers and developers who had access to them to keep them in darkened locked rooms away from windows. It is no exaggeration to say that the eyes of the world were on Apple. Apple could have said and done anything and people would have swallowed it.

But there was no word of OS 4.0. And now, the media have gone home, the iPad is just another tech toy, and no doubt early adopters are already bitching about problems. It's all over. No-one cares anymore. Why would Apple wait till NOW to launch OS 4.0 if it contained major feature updates that would significantly enhance the iPad?

Let's take an example: Multitasking. The iPad has been lampooned from late night talk shows to virtually every tech blog about not including multitasking. If it was so close to being ready that it could be announced LESS THAN A WEEK after the iPad became available, don't you think that Apple would have preferred to avoid the negative press from launching without multitasking? You might argue that it is a new hype cycle and that it will start more buzz, but don't forget that first impressions count. I kept hearing negative comments from the uninformed public (ie. non tech people) about the iPhone not having cut/paste and MMS long after those features had been added to the iPhone. Why? Because the message was out and first impressions stick.

I don't think the "first round" will be over until the 3G units are released.

 

[fobfob]

In the spirit of the thread I should make a prediction on OS 4.0. I believe it will contain an expansion of the API making new features possible and/or easier, better integration etc. These will enable great new applications to be made. But it will not include user level enhancements that will be noticed immediately, such as a way cool new springboard or multitasking.

 

[Antiloop]

My wishlist is pretty short. Better bluetooth integration and wireless synching. If I could use the iTunes Remote App to browse my library and add songs on the fly that would be great. Even better is if they expanded access to other media (video, books, docs, etc) that was in your iTunes folder. I wouldn't expect complete network access on this revision, and don't even know if it's necessary. Multitasking I am not too concerned about.

 

[dissdnt]

Whatever it is it will just be new added features and minor tweaks. There's not going to be this giant ui refresh or how things normally work. They just did an iPad blitz they aren't going to do big changes and confuse customers.

 

[kcmac]

http://bit.ly/a3vSC7

Pretty good timing for a sneak peak.

 

[rtabdo]

Let's take an example: Multitasking. The iPad has been lampooned from late night talk shows to virtually every tech blog about not including multitasking. If it was so close to being ready that it could be announced LESS THAN A WEEK after the iPad became available, don't you think that Apple would have preferred to avoid the negative press from launching without multitasking? You might argue that it is a new hype cycle and that it will start more buzz, but don't forget that first impressions count. I kept hearing negative comments from the uninformed public (ie. non tech people) about the iPhone not having cut/paste and MMS long after those features had been added to the iPhone. Why? Because the message was out and first impressions stick.

But it wasn't' close to being announced, thats the thing. The iPad was announced in January and nothing has changed about it since we officially saw it back then. The iPad itself was launched as a new category device, not as a new UI. Where the iPad really shines right now is in Apps with the hardware, not the iPhone OS itself.

Anyways, moving onto my point. When you have nearly 2.5 month gap between the iPad and the iPhone 4.0 OS announcements, a lot can be done in that time, and the thing is, the iPad is in its infancy whether you believe it or not. It's only been out 2 days now. It's not like the iPhone which has been out for nearly 3 years now and everyone has a common understanding of what's missing and what's not. Like anything else, it takes time for thoughts to trickle down. I can tell you one thing, I'm willing to bet that a lot of people wont be complaining come Thursday when it comes to multi-tasking.

Think about if Apple waited till June to announce the iPad with iPhone 4.0 ready. That would be nearly 6 months lost for developers to make applications which believe it or not, really sets it back. I really believe the iPad was demoed in Jan to show the world what it's CAPABLE of, and allow developers to get cracking. I believe that iPhone 4.0 is more inline of what Apple has wanted for the iPad all along.

As much as I love my iPad and how beautiful and fast it is, I really believe this is more of a "beta" of the iPad and we're gonna see some really great features (including multi-tasking) come along with iPhone 4.0 OS. I believe that's why we are seeing serious battery life in the iPad.

 

[inkswamp]

Well, take into account the older iPhone models. iPhone 3GS users don't experience the bugs much because we are used to the fast responsive CPU. Where as iPhone 3G and 1st Geners are stuck at lower RAM and slower CPUs. Making the OS leaner will help out with resource handling.

I have an iPhone 3G and I have no problems to report, no sluggishness or freezes. An occasional third-party app will crash maybe once a week but that's hardly worth worrying about.

 

[Bigskygangsta]

4.0 better have it....

If it ain't got CUT and PASTE I'm gettin a friggin Pre....

Please Apple... please!!!!

 

[cmaier]

If it ain't got CUT and PASTE I'm gettin a friggin Pre....

Please Apple... please!!!!

Um...

 

[ChazUK]

Um...

Sarcasm? (I hope)

 

[inkswamp]

I disagree with those of you saying UI features can't be changed because the iPad was just launched. I think 4.0 will bring numerous changes but the default UI will be the same. You can set preferences to enable advanced features. And anyway, remember this is the same company that ditched the iPod Mini at the height of its popularity and replaced it with the Nano. They're not exactly afraid to change things unexpectedly.

I keep thinking back to the reported comments that Steve Jobs made during his town hall discussion with Apple employees. I believe he said it would be an A+ upgrade. I don't see how some UI improvements wouldn't be a part of that.

 

[gwangung]

Sarcasm? (I hope)

Well, with some people out there....

 

[rtabdo]

I disagree with those of you saying UI features can't be changed because the iPad was just launched. I think 4.0 will bring numerous changes but the default UI will be the same. You can set preferences to enable advanced features. And anyway, remember this is the same company that ditched the iPod Mini at the height of its popularity and replaced it with the Nano. They're not exactly afraid to change things unexpectedly.

I keep thinking back to the reported comments that Steve Jobs made during his town hall discussion with Apple employees. I believe he said it would be an A+ upgrade. I don't see how some UI improvements wouldn't be a part of that.

Exactly! 2 months from now (if thats when iPhone 4.0 comes out) will be nothing in the timeline of iPad, assuming we see it around for the next few years.

Apples goal I believe was, let's get this DEVICE out early so people can create for it, and then let's add our own new features when we have them done right.

 

[Friscohoya]

Whatever it is it will just be new added features and minor tweaks. There's not going to be this giant ui refresh or how things normally work. They just did an iPad blitz they aren't going to do big changes and confuse customers.

A man can dream...

 

[Antiloop]

I disagree with those of you saying UI features can't be changed because the iPad was just launched. I think 4.0 will bring numerous changes but the default UI will be the same. You can set preferences to enable advanced features. And anyway, remember this is the same company that ditched the iPod Mini at the height of its popularity and replaced it with the Nano. They're not exactly afraid to change things unexpectedly.

I keep thinking back to the reported comments that Steve Jobs made during his town hall discussion with Apple employees. I believe he said it would be an A+ upgrade. I don't see how some UI improvements wouldn't be a part of that.

Changing a product after it has been well established and right after it has just been released are not really the same. I can see things like multi-touch and multitasking will be added, but changing the UI dramatically doesn't make much sense at the moment.

From my perspective 3.2 allowed the iPad to do just enough to be released. 4.0 will be primarily designed to help the iPad take much greater advantage of its size and potential uses. There are any number of features, aside from the ones mentioned above that could make it an 'A+ upgrade' (networking capabilities, better integration with Mac OS X as a peripheral device, a new line of native apps, maybe even disconnecting it from iTunes enough that an iPad would no longer have to be synched out of the box and instead be a standalone unit).