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I can think of 20 off the top of my head...
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iPhone OS 4.0 Preview Event Scheduled for This Thursday
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Exactly. Anyone remember MultiFinder? It allowed a 1 MB Mac multitask. You switched through apps with the Apple menu.
Something like that would be cool for the iPhone.
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Exactly. Anyone remember MultiFinder? It allowed a 1 MB Mac multitask. You switched through apps with the Apple menu.
Something like that would be cool for the iPhone.
Smartass. You know what I meant, but I'll spell it out: I wish applications could be updated in the background without me having to press anything.
You should rename your OS since it was a Cisco trademark before CSS even existed.
I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but OS X covers several devices all with slightly different features, hardware and capabilities. I don't think that's much too worry about. Maybe it's just me.
How 'bout we just get away from the "OS" naming convention entirely? It's now the age of consumer-based, consumer-oriented computing. I think we can finally dump the nerd-esque "Operating System" moniker - it's a goofy, obscure term to 90% of the computing populace.
Have you talked about it with your friends, your colleagues and your relatives?
Most my friends, colleagues and relatives don't really know (nor care) what an "Operating System" is, exactly.
And odds are yours don't either.
Anyone else think that the graphic resembles the Facebook logo? It uses similar colors and the piece of the white 4 that we can see looks like a lowercase f.
I wonder if there is going to be some integration announced with the fbook.
I wonder if there is going to be some integration announced with the fbook.
Around ten hours until we find out what's in store for iPhone OS 4.0... here's a few things I'd love to see:
- Background processes. I can see there being big limitations on background processes, especially with regards to CPU and memory usage - people have a LOT of applications on their phones, and the background processes will stack up very quickly. Perhaps the background process would be required to be a separate executable, so all code and resources related to the UI aren't in memory all the time - the only UI interaction they could do is to post a notification. Who knows.
- Lock screen. This screen should show you all of the notifications you have missed, before you've even had to slide to unlock and type in your PIN. There have been plenty of mockups (the one here is one of the nicest I've seen). All of this info should also be duplicated in the Springboard so you can get at it when you're using the phone, perhaps sharing the same page as Spotlight (i.e. when you go to that page, the notifications are shown below the search bar... Tap the bar and the keyboard pops up, and the notifications are replaced when results start being shown. Clear the search field and the notifications appear again).
- Notification popups - you can already turn these off on an app-by-app basis, but one other improvement they could possibly do is to allow apps to provide a mini UI applet that can be embedded in the notification window, so a user can do things like reply to an SMS or a Facebook message right from within the notification window, without having to leave their current app.
- Spotlight was added last time, and it was able to search data from the built-in apps. Hopefully with 4.0 third party apps will be able to make their data searchable, so stuff like tasks in Things show up in the search. It would be nice if the spotlight search also returned a few web hits for your phrase, too.
- Over-the-air data syncing with the cloud via MobileMe. They already sync up multiple Macs thanks to Sync Services, it would be nice if that's extended to the iPhone as well. I can, however, already see a reason that they wouldn't do this - it would cut out PC users.
- Expanded voice control. It would be nice if apps could hook into this system and provide voice controls for their stuff.
- Some sort of central storage area for files. If I'm travelling, I'd like to be able to dump some maps onto my phone so that I always have them with me (internet connection or no internet connection). I know they supposedly want to avoid file systems, folders, and all that cruft, but something to make it easy to carry files around would be great. Quick Look would be great here, too. And if you have a MobileMe account, you could also browse your iDisk in the same interface.
- Wallpaper. May as well.
- A night mode where it automatically silences all notification beeps between certain hours. You should be able to set the hours, and what gets silenced (phone calls, messages, notifications, etc).
- I'd like to be able to change the silent ringer switch on the side of my phone into a lock rotation switch instead (set it somewhere in Settings?)
- Wireless, automatic syncing with iTunes over WiFi. They already sync the AppleTV in this way, so it would be nice to do this for the iPhone, too. If they're worried about battery drain, maybe you can set it so that it only does it when it's plugged in to a power source.
- App store allows developers to offer paid upgrades.
- Background processes. I can see there being big limitations on background processes, especially with regards to CPU and memory usage - people have a LOT of applications on their phones, and the background processes will stack up very quickly. Perhaps the background process would be required to be a separate executable, so all code and resources related to the UI aren't in memory all the time - the only UI interaction they could do is to post a notification. Who knows.
- Lock screen. This screen should show you all of the notifications you have missed, before you've even had to slide to unlock and type in your PIN. There have been plenty of mockups (the one here is one of the nicest I've seen). All of this info should also be duplicated in the Springboard so you can get at it when you're using the phone, perhaps sharing the same page as Spotlight (i.e. when you go to that page, the notifications are shown below the search bar... Tap the bar and the keyboard pops up, and the notifications are replaced when results start being shown. Clear the search field and the notifications appear again).
- Notification popups - you can already turn these off on an app-by-app basis, but one other improvement they could possibly do is to allow apps to provide a mini UI applet that can be embedded in the notification window, so a user can do things like reply to an SMS or a Facebook message right from within the notification window, without having to leave their current app.
- Spotlight was added last time, and it was able to search data from the built-in apps. Hopefully with 4.0 third party apps will be able to make their data searchable, so stuff like tasks in Things show up in the search. It would be nice if the spotlight search also returned a few web hits for your phrase, too.
- Over-the-air data syncing with the cloud via MobileMe. They already sync up multiple Macs thanks to Sync Services, it would be nice if that's extended to the iPhone as well. I can, however, already see a reason that they wouldn't do this - it would cut out PC users.
- Expanded voice control. It would be nice if apps could hook into this system and provide voice controls for their stuff.
- Some sort of central storage area for files. If I'm travelling, I'd like to be able to dump some maps onto my phone so that I always have them with me (internet connection or no internet connection). I know they supposedly want to avoid file systems, folders, and all that cruft, but something to make it easy to carry files around would be great. Quick Look would be great here, too. And if you have a MobileMe account, you could also browse your iDisk in the same interface.
- Wallpaper. May as well.
- A night mode where it automatically silences all notification beeps between certain hours. You should be able to set the hours, and what gets silenced (phone calls, messages, notifications, etc).
- I'd like to be able to change the silent ringer switch on the side of my phone into a lock rotation switch instead (set it somewhere in Settings?)
- Wireless, automatic syncing with iTunes over WiFi. They already sync the AppleTV in this way, so it would be nice to do this for the iPhone, too. If they're worried about battery drain, maybe you can set it so that it only does it when it's plugged in to a power source.
- App store allows developers to offer paid upgrades.
I think that they will announce features tomorrow that again will give developers more ways to create new apps and enhance their existing apps. This is really where the creative draw for the iPhone comes in and keeps people moving to the phone. Sure, Apple will fix a number of things with their existing OS, but I feel we will continue to see a developer-centric attitude to new features.
Here are my predictions:
- Multitasking on a basic scale (meaning with strict rules)
- Calendar API's
- Abilty to hide Apple apps, such as Stocks and Weather
- Enhancements to the Mail app
- App organization with Stacks of some sort
- Notification enhancements
- User customization (background wallpaper, lock screen information)
- iChat app
- File Storage app
- Enhanced Spotlight searches the Internet
- Voice API
- Ad-serving API (from their acquisition of Quattro)
- At least three things that I didn't predict will be announced, and at least one will be something that I never would have even thought of
- iPad specific enhancements: Missing apps (Stocks, Weather, etc), better layout, specific iPad features
I do not think that Wireless syncing to iTunes is in the cards yet, unfortunately. I just don't see Apple thinking it's a priority yet, and it requires a new iTunes release most likely.
I am also not sure about App Store paid upgrades for developers. I am going with a no on that one as well.
Price:
- Free for iPad and 3GS users. iPhone 2G and older iPod Touch models will not be able to use 4.0.
- $4.95 for iPhone 3G and iPod Touch users.
Availability:
- Developers will get first beta by May 1st.
- Users will get it in Summer 2010. Probably will coincide with new iPhone release at the time, to be announced at WWDC. OS 4.0 may have a few software enhancements specifically for the new iPhone, such as iChat Video Conferencing with API's.
I'll come back and see how I did with predictions tomorrow!
Ethan
Here are my predictions:
- Multitasking on a basic scale (meaning with strict rules)
- Calendar API's
- Abilty to hide Apple apps, such as Stocks and Weather
- Enhancements to the Mail app
- App organization with Stacks of some sort
- Notification enhancements
- User customization (background wallpaper, lock screen information)
- iChat app
- File Storage app
- Enhanced Spotlight searches the Internet
- Voice API
- Ad-serving API (from their acquisition of Quattro)
- At least three things that I didn't predict will be announced, and at least one will be something that I never would have even thought of
- iPad specific enhancements: Missing apps (Stocks, Weather, etc), better layout, specific iPad features
I do not think that Wireless syncing to iTunes is in the cards yet, unfortunately. I just don't see Apple thinking it's a priority yet, and it requires a new iTunes release most likely.
I am also not sure about App Store paid upgrades for developers. I am going with a no on that one as well.
Price:
- Free for iPad and 3GS users. iPhone 2G and older iPod Touch models will not be able to use 4.0.
- $4.95 for iPhone 3G and iPod Touch users.
Availability:
- Developers will get first beta by May 1st.
- Users will get it in Summer 2010. Probably will coincide with new iPhone release at the time, to be announced at WWDC. OS 4.0 may have a few software enhancements specifically for the new iPhone, such as iChat Video Conferencing with API's.
I'll come back and see how I did with predictions tomorrow!
Ethan
Yeah, I think we all got that.
That would go over great while trying to watch a YouTube video, or in the middle of a phone call in a low signal area (and there's tons of those!), or trying to update a 13 MB app with the iPad's 3G data limit 5% before your 250 MB limit expires... or while waiting for google maps imagery to load, or when your battery is almost dead and you need to get that one phone call from that one girl... you know the one I mean... For that matter, imagine Apple rejects an app over a feature that it's already got, your device updates, and the feature is gone... or (and this happens) a developer has a bug in an update - your friend gets the update and warns you not to... oops, now yours doesn't work either. This is what Apple calls a "bad user experience."
And why all this trouble? Some guy doesn't want to tap a single "Update all Apps" button and then watch in amazement as the phone automatically downloads and installs all those great apps without asking him to click "OK-Install-default-ok-accept-no, really I accept-yes, I read it-continue-ok, I didn't read it but go anyway-ok-install" a billion times.
There are apps that are always automatically up to date; they're called web apps, and they ****.
One of the things I hate is apps that start downloading major files in the background and don't ask me, tell me, warn me, or offer to stop while I do something more important. (I don't want a Microsoft Office update now, I want to watch the latest episode of the Big Bang Theory!) I can only imagine that as much as I dislike it on a laptop, I'd go livid on my phone.
Opinions on politics & religion aside, "don't ask, don't tell" is a terrible policy for downloading app updates.
Not really.
Does anybody still care about the addition/omission of a FM tuner on any Apple product? It's kinda like hoping that the next iMac will ship with RCA jacks.
Radio has become so awful and homogenized over the past couple of years it's hard to think of it as a relevant content channel anymore or anything worth accommodating in a mobile product.
Historically they have released it the same day as the previous, although it's possible they could be a little behind this time due to getting 3.2 ready for the iPad.
The scary question I am asking myself now is whether I will want to install a beta 4.0 firmware on my shiny new iPad
If you're not a developer, why would you? The preview, if released on the April 7th, will be for developers only and the general population will not be able to install it until the GM is published.
Why does everybody keep saying this? It's almost like the stuff we really want, like WiFi connections from the peer picker, get lost in the fray. ;-)
Would be nice.
Steve Jobs said so.
now we're in for it!
Would be nice.
Beyond iDisk? Not going to happen. ever.
If they do this, they won't mention anything about the lock screen...
Interested to see if Steve's "We didn't enter the search space" comment turns into "We're gonna enter the search space." Maybe that's what the data center in SoCar is for.
Would be incredibly awesome if devs could take advantage of that.
wait, no really? There's things you didn't think of? I guess that's why you're not under an NDA! j/k
No Dude! SDK download on announcement day. Always been that way.
I have to go on a stacks rant. So when I have a bunch of non-text related items, you know: like how mobile iPhoto strips your photos of all those tags you use to find them in iPhoto? then a stack makes sense. But when I can categorize and alphabetize my items (like books on a shelf) then that's what I want: a giant scrollable table view that sorts things into categories/groups. I want related apps together, and common apps always visible. It's starting to sound like I want a faster horse... One of the things Apple said early on was "users don't like zooming and panning around to get to the controls for the UI," but that's exactly what the iPhone Home screen is. Less than 10 hours to go...
and if Forstall says it, you know neither Steve, Phil, Bertrand or Ive wanted anything to do with it.
I'm predicting Quick Look plugins.
That made no sense. They already do push contact/calendar updates, I guess you mean for photos and app backups? Why wouldn't they do it if it cut out PC users? They've got a big enough net, let'em set the hook!
I could have sworn they made a switch for that right next to the volume keys...
I do have one very good use for FM... Major emergencies. September 11th. Hurricanes. Radio comes in handy at times when Internet connections go down.
It's also nice to flip on FM on Christmas Eve/Day to hear local radio stations playing Christmas music. Sure, I have all those songs on my iPod already, but there is something charming about hearing them over the radio.
I'd hate to say it but i really don't see apple providing any way to access music except for iTunes.
new ipod nano's have FM. So Apple let's you access music other than iTunes music. Why not do it on the iphone too?
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How cool would it be if apple supplemented email, IM, and SMS with yet another form of text based electronic communication but made it one that only allowed you to communicate with a tiny minority of the population? All so you can feel like you're in some exclusive club? Not very cool, I'd say.
fameadvance said:
How cool would it be if apple supplemented email, IM, and SMS with yet another form of text based electronic communication but made it one that only allowed you to communicate with a tiny minority of the population? All so you can feel like you're in some exclusive club? Not very cool, I'd say.
If there's really a major emergency, what makes you think your phone's cell towers will be functioning? In Katrina, the cell towers were unavailable for quite a while. If you want a radio for emergency purposes, get a battery or crank operated number.
I find xmas music nauseating. Also, you can find numerous radio stations online on your computer--which presumably has better speakers. I'm sure you can find one that'll play that treacly, annoying music.
FM radio=fail.
I find xmas music nauseating. Also, you can find numerous radio stations online on your computer--which presumably has better speakers. I'm sure you can find one that'll play that treacly, annoying music.
FM radio=fail.