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iPhone OS 4.0 Preview Event Scheduled for This Thursday
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Don't know if this has been posted before, but my college teacher works at Kraft as a part time sys admin and he told me that they already have the image of 4.0 on their [Kraft] servers (but he doesn't have access to it). He said it will be released on April 8 
edit: just to clarify. Apple preloaded the 4.0 image on the Kraft servers so that the entire Kraft employee base (many get iPads for free, my teacher one of them, as well as iPhones) won't hammer the iTunes servers on release day. I'm assuming they do this with most big corporations that do business with Apple.
edit: just to clarify. Apple preloaded the 4.0 image on the Kraft servers so that the entire Kraft employee base (many get iPads for free, my teacher one of them, as well as iPhones) won't hammer the iTunes servers on release day. I'm assuming they do this with most big corporations that do business with Apple.
Well if they are going to push on with the yearly release model that is very popular in software circles these days then...
Well the defining Product of the company is the software OS X it seems to drive everything anyway.
So why not just "Apple OS 2010/2011/2012/......"
With the product family:-(just don't use the word Editions)
Server 2010 ($499.99)
Developer 2010 ($99.99)
Mac 2010 ($29.99)
iPad 2010 ($19.99)
iPod 2010 ($9.99)
iPhone 2010 (free)
First press of the sleep button silences the ringer, second press declines the call.
Next time, when posting features you hope they add, make sure it doesn't already have it.
If 4.0 covers running custom apps in parallel, they will have to limit it in some way. No offense to developers but I'm convinced that less than 5% of all apps are behaving good in the sense that no memory is wasted and the cpu stays cool. There are these nice tools to monitor an apps activity on the phone but I'm sure most of the developers either do not check them or do not have time to do so.
There MIGHT be some custom apps which will be allowed to stay running. But how to decide which one?
One thing would be: Let the user choose. Then every complaint about short battery life can go to the custom-app-developers. But I'm sure, this will block sales in the near future. And I predict if this is the case, users will all have running at least 10 apps in parallel as they forget to quit them. So the solution would be that the user can choose, which application remains when pressing the home button and which one does not. But this is task-managing and I doubt that Apple wants the users to deal with that.
Another solution would be that apple employees check the app after a submission whether it is a green light (clean memory consumption and cpu sleep while inactive) or a red light (busy, memory hog) according to internal guidelines which are not known to anybody. This would have the effect that people start thinking about optimization but I hightly doubt that it will have the desired effect. Even for developers producing high quality apps, this will be a pain.
My prediction is: There is a 25% chance of getting "multitasking". It would be nice in some way but Apple will assure, it is much nicer without and will have no serious impact on how to handle content.
Just my thoughts.
There MIGHT be some custom apps which will be allowed to stay running. But how to decide which one?
One thing would be: Let the user choose. Then every complaint about short battery life can go to the custom-app-developers. But I'm sure, this will block sales in the near future. And I predict if this is the case, users will all have running at least 10 apps in parallel as they forget to quit them. So the solution would be that the user can choose, which application remains when pressing the home button and which one does not. But this is task-managing and I doubt that Apple wants the users to deal with that.
Another solution would be that apple employees check the app after a submission whether it is a green light (clean memory consumption and cpu sleep while inactive) or a red light (busy, memory hog) according to internal guidelines which are not known to anybody. This would have the effect that people start thinking about optimization but I hightly doubt that it will have the desired effect. Even for developers producing high quality apps, this will be a pain.
My prediction is: There is a 25% chance of getting "multitasking". It would be nice in some way but Apple will assure, it is much nicer without and will have no serious impact on how to handle content.
Just my thoughts.
My prediction is: - there are too many people using the original iPhone and the 3g, so apple will release os4 with loads of whizzy woo new features, but it will run like a dog on the old hardware
this will gently encourage people to upgrade to 4g
Having two or more apps open is not the definition of multi-tasking, it's only one example. It's impossible to have this advanced mobile OS without any kind of multi-tasking. And if you can't see app it doesn't mean that it's not multi-tasking. The screen is simply to small to implement it the way you could see. On Pre you switch by flicking, on iPhone it looks like you closed the app with home button, but it's just the way it works for now. open iStat and you will see that Safari or other Apple apps run at all times.
Both no more than rumour sites. I won't believe it until Steve, Scott Forstall or big Phil say it.
Because the Original iPhone is likely to have reached the end of its support cycle from Apple. It has remained in support despite being superseded twice now. My guess is that the third supersession will find it dropping out of support officially, as by then all AppleCare on all original iPhones will have ended.
Technically, we are required to save state, they just let it slide because it's an obnoxious problem in object oriented code-you basically have to make a super object that knows about every state variable in the app or a separate set of functions that know how to restore state without re-triggering the other behavior. It's much easier (though perhaps more expensive) to save out the app's memory to disk, assuming they're doing memory management correctly, and read the memory back in at a later time, and pretend nothing happened.. Unfortunately, that can some times be more memory than the user has available on their cramped early-model iPhone, it takes large amounts of time, and counts against your limited total #of writes for the flash memory.
Besides, "Photos" doesn't even save state, so don't get on our backs yet!
(is no one asking for a search mode in "Photos")
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Except that jailbroken 3gs' can run lime 10 apps at once without slowing down. But don't let facts get in the way of your hating.
notromeel said:How can multitasking work with a lousy 256mb of ram in both the 3GS and even the ipad. Multitasking relies heavily on ram. It would be a disaster in my opinion. Maybe in some new hardware versions, but in the current crop we will be back to iphone 1.0 slowness.
True dat.
Except that jailbroken 3gs' can run lime 10 apps at once without slowing down. But don't let facts get in the way of your hating.
They can run 200 too, if they don't consume resources. But don't let facts get in the way of your worshipping
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I hope that 4.0 will support all iDevices.
That said, the first two iPhone and iPod Touch hardware generations have 128MB RAM which may not be enough for a satisfactory 3rd-party-App-multitasking solution (even with a decent hardware paging implementation).
Therefore I expect no 3rd-party-App-multitasking on the 1st and 2nd generation hardware.
Supporting all iDevices keeps the developer story clear, benefits the environment (prolonging product life), and gets Apple yet more publicity and goodwill (support for "old" products is almost unheard of in the mobile industry).
Finally, support for old iDevices is good, because they are often handed down to our siblings and children -- and they therefore serve as 'gateway drugs' to hook new users into Apple's ecosystem
I hope that 4.0 will support all iDevices.
That said, the first two iPhone and iPod Touch hardware generations have 128MB RAM which may not be enough for a satisfactory 3rd-party-App-multitasking solution (even with a decent hardware paging implementation).
Therefore I expect no 3rd-party-App-multitasking on the 1st and 2nd generation hardware.
Supporting all iDevices keeps the developer story clear, benefits the environment (prolonging product life), and gets Apple yet more publicity and goodwill (support for "old" products is almost unheard of in the mobile industry).
Finally, support for old iDevices is good, because they are often handed down to our siblings and children -- and they therefore serve as 'gateway drugs' to hook new users into Apple's ecosystem
Time to enable "hidden" FM transmitter/receiver !
Remember that...
http://gizmodo.com/5200034/next-generation-iphone-may-have-fm-transmission-capabilities
Wouldn't tomorrow be the perfect moment to unveil iPhone/iPod's new ability to receive FM, instant record, tag songs (think iPod nano), buy them on iTunes directly OTA; but also receive RDS-based traffic info that'll feed Maps app and upcoming GPS nav apps; and allow iPod/iPhone to broadcast audio directly to the car stereo via FM (in countries where it is permitted)...
BTW does iPad also boast an FM receiver/transmitter like its older brother ?
Apart from that, 4.0 would be great if it could add:
- SMS delivery report
- SMS character count (think French accents... e.g. typing ê needs unicode encoding thus 1 SMS is counted every 70 characters!)
- SMS groups
- Wifi sync of iTunes
- Downloads podcasts over Wifi or 3G
- Screen rotation lock (via a gesture...)
- Enhanced search in contacts
- Use of iPad photo connection kit and keyboard accessories with iPhone/iPod touch
- Accessibility settings that don't put in negative colours the wallpaper
- native iChat running in background (instead of AIM third-part app...)
- tethering iPhone with iPad Wifi (dream on, man...)
- for fun, an "iPod with clickwheel" emulator with an on-screen clickwheel and teh ability to play Sonic, Pole Position or iPod Quiz (good times...)
Remember that...
http://gizmodo.com/5200034/next-generation-iphone-may-have-fm-transmission-capabilities
Wouldn't tomorrow be the perfect moment to unveil iPhone/iPod's new ability to receive FM, instant record, tag songs (think iPod nano), buy them on iTunes directly OTA; but also receive RDS-based traffic info that'll feed Maps app and upcoming GPS nav apps; and allow iPod/iPhone to broadcast audio directly to the car stereo via FM (in countries where it is permitted)...
BTW does iPad also boast an FM receiver/transmitter like its older brother ?
Apart from that, 4.0 would be great if it could add:
- SMS delivery report
- SMS character count (think French accents... e.g. typing ê needs unicode encoding thus 1 SMS is counted every 70 characters!)
- SMS groups
- Wifi sync of iTunes
- Downloads podcasts over Wifi or 3G
- Screen rotation lock (via a gesture...)
- Enhanced search in contacts
- Use of iPad photo connection kit and keyboard accessories with iPhone/iPod touch
- Accessibility settings that don't put in negative colours the wallpaper
- native iChat running in background (instead of AIM third-part app...)
- tethering iPhone with iPad Wifi (dream on, man...)
- for fun, an "iPod with clickwheel" emulator with an on-screen clickwheel and teh ability to play Sonic, Pole Position or iPod Quiz (good times...)
when do u think they gonna release first "beta" for testing to developers? I'm really excited to try it out on my 3GS ( also hope the HW gonna be enough..)
Highly probable we might get a beta tomorrow, but with Apple, you never know. Less than 24 hrs to find out
Highly probable we might get a beta tomorrow, but with Apple, you never know. Less than 24 hrs to find out
Yeah, would be great, have u seen this concept - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_1quYGZPvg what do u think about it, is it possible to implement something like that ?
Would be amazing tho!
This isn't a legitimate reason. The original iphone and the iphone 3G share the same SoC, and they still continue to sell the 3G. For the original iphone to not be supported anymore, they'd have to stop supporting all 3G models as well. The only thing they could do is artificially prohibit the upgrade on the grounds that it doesn't have a 3G radio or some other inconsequential feature.
Might work if the OS itself didn't have a memory leak ;-)
And, wow if you want to talk power consumption, I've got three words for you: WiFi, GPS, 3G.
(Ok, to be fair, the memory leak was in 2.1)
Yeah, I mean totally: you have to uncompress the zip format and then type in the paths for the individual bundle components. Then I have to perform an MD5 (or whatever) hash of the binary and compare it to the signed certificate to verify no changes have been made. Then I have to parse the info.plist file to check for supported url schemas and record the paths to the launch images. Finally, you have to pull out photoshop and mask the icon edges for rounded corners, then composite a glossy curvy gradient on top of them...
Oh wait, by "manual" you meant you have to tell the computer "Yes, I want this app/all apps updated."
You have no idea what's it's doing to update an app; that's what we call "automatic."
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There are probably a couple of dozen people max who are 100% sure what is in os 4, and you are not one of them (or if you are, you're about to be unemployed)
Prom1 said:
There are probably a couple of dozen people max who are 100% sure what is in os 4, and you are not one of them (or if you are, you're about to be unemployed)
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There are probably a couple of dozen people max who are 100% sure what is in os 4, and you are not one of them (or if you are, you're about to be unemployed)
Prom1 said:
There are probably a couple of dozen people max who are 100% sure what is in os 4, and you are not one of them (or if you are, you're about to be unemployed)