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iPhone OS 4 Jailbreak with Blackra1n by Geohot
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That would be beautifull
I hardly dare to hope. But I just wonder why else they would hold back the other two exploits if Geohot's is so much better. The only reason I can would be that they think 1) Geohot's exploit makes their exploits completely obsolete on the 3G/3GS and 2) Geohot's exploit probably won't work on the 4G.
Curious, by saying they have a JB possible, doesnt that tell apple there is an exploit in the OS that apple may be able to figure out and patch just based off of knowing their own technology?
A hack/exploit is always possible, Apple knows that. It's like saying to adobe that the new photoshop can be Cracked...they know it too.
What they don't know is how.
Apple has a dismal record of finding and fixing exploits before they are revealed by JB tools.
not to mention they have a lot of better things to be working on/doing than trying to find the exploit the next jailbreak is going to use and trying to patch it ahead of time.
I'm still a little unsure of why they are holding back on the Userland exploit, except that since it is the easiest one to administer they may be waiting to use it as a way to automate the other exploits.
For example, if the Spirit jailbreak (I have no clue how it works) can be executed with no computer, then they could have you download an app into userland, like say blackra1n, that would exploit from the device itself. Granted, the exploits also sound like they are independent, but they may be waiting because it's the EASIEST way right now.
My guess is they just want to communicate with each other to make sure they don't release two exploits at the same time unnecessarily. So they'll probably look at the likely hood of Apple patching any of the exploits they have and make a decision to only show one card at a time.
I'm excited though! Even though I already have a jailbroken 3G running 3.1.
As for LockInfo working on 4.0... If the firmware change isn't too great it should be compatible. Most existing API's don't change so much. As soon as MobileSubstrate and Preferences Injector are ported LockInfo may just need to be recompiled. Only time will tell. Ashman seems like the kind of guy who'd be on top of that if he could get ahold of the firmware.
For example, if the Spirit jailbreak (I have no clue how it works) can be executed with no computer, then they could have you download an app into userland, like say blackra1n, that would exploit from the device itself. Granted, the exploits also sound like they are independent, but they may be waiting because it's the EASIEST way right now.
My guess is they just want to communicate with each other to make sure they don't release two exploits at the same time unnecessarily. So they'll probably look at the likely hood of Apple patching any of the exploits they have and make a decision to only show one card at a time.
I'm excited though! Even though I already have a jailbroken 3G running 3.1.
As for LockInfo working on 4.0... If the firmware change isn't too great it should be compatible. Most existing API's don't change so much. As soon as MobileSubstrate and Preferences Injector are ported LockInfo may just need to be recompiled. Only time will tell. Ashman seems like the kind of guy who'd be on top of that if he could get ahold of the firmware.
I'm still a little unsure of why they are holding back on the Userland exploit, except that since it is the easiest one to administer they may be waiting to use it as a way to automate the other exploits.
For example, if the Spirit jailbreak (I have no clue how it works) can be executed with no computer, then they could have you download an app into userland, like say blackra1n, that would exploit from the device itself. Granted, the exploits also sound like they are independent, but they may be waiting because it's the EASIEST way right now.
My guess is they just want to communicate with each other to make sure they don't release two exploits at the same time unnecessarily. So they'll probably look at the likely hood of Apple patching any of the exploits they have and make a decision to only show one card at a time.
I'm excited though! Even though I already have a jailbroken 3G running 3.1.
As for LockInfo working on 4.0... If the firmware change isn't too great it should be compatible. Most existing API's don't change so much. As soon as MobileSubstrate and Preferences Injector are ported LockInfo may just need to be recompiled. Only time will tell. Ashman seems like the kind of guy who'd be on top of that if he could get ahold of the firmware.
As I understand it, they are waiting for 3G iPads to begin shipping (so no last second change up by Apple). I think a 3.2 JB will be released which should be backwards compatible with 3.1.3.
We shall see.
It has not been released. And there is no way they'll release it for the beta.
They wouldn't want Apple to patch the exploit before the actual 4.0 release. They'll likely be holding on to one of their exploits to send out after the iPad 3G release. Probably Spirit. This would jailbreak all devices untethered.
Apple WILL patch this one quickly. Probably in a small featureless "security" patch shortly after that Dev will tell everyone DON'T UPGRADE OR YOU'RE SOL UNTIL 4.0. People will upgrade and complain and nobody will care.
When 4.0 is released, depending on when the release day is for the next gen iPhone they will either release another jailbreak that will jailbreak all devices at the 4.0 release or the next iPhone release. Probably not long after they are released either. I'm hoping the exploit GeoHot has is a Pwn4Life exploit that works on 3Gs and iPad. If so they will DEFINITELY wait to see if the next gen iPhone will be part of the Pwn4Life family.
If they do release an exploit between iPad 3G and iPhone HD it will probably be the middle exploit that Dev Team found. All my guesses! I have no affiliation with any one of these guys.
I think it makes sense though and would let each jailbreak have the longest lifespan possible.
Pardon my ignorance, but I have only jailbroken once. When 4.0 comes out, we'll upgrade to it, thus losing our jailbreak. When the jailbreak for 4.0 is released and installed, how do we regain our old Cydia apps that we've already paid for (LockInfo, AttachmentSaver, YourTube, Safari Downloader, etc.)? Does Cydia have a way of remembering what you've purchased and will therefore let you re-download those apps?
Definetelly.
It would be pointless to release a JB for a beta that will expire soon and will only be available to those registered with an SDK account.
Then Apple will notice the exploit and patch it by the time the official 4.0 is out.
The more aces they got up their sleeves the better
Definetelly.
It would be pointless to release a JB for a beta that will expire soon and will only be available to those registered with an SDK account.
Then Apple will notice the exploit and patch it by the time the official 4.0 is out.
The more aces they got up their sleeves the better
we would get along
Yes, cydia will recognize your iphone and will automaticly let you download them again for free. Offcourse only on the same phone, not if you update to the new iphone and try to download them.
You will lose all personal data stored in any Jailbroken app if you re download them. There is an app called PkgBackup or something (someone help me out here, I haven't used it) that will actually back up your Cydia apps and install them when you upgrade. I think the advantage is that it will update all your user data too. This app is a couple bucks though. Sounds worth it. I almost never upgrade my OS and when I do I take the opportunity to "clean" things up, so I don't have it.
Aargh.
I have an iPod Touch now and will probably be leaving Sprint for the new iPhone this summer. Oh well, the apps aren't that much money in total, and they're well worth a second purchase if that's what I need to do. At least I can re-download them for free on the Touch.
yeah there are a few backups for cydia available via cydia. aptbackup is free, pkg backup costs money. I think, but don't quote me, that aptbackup just creates a basic little text file with all of the repos and packages that you have when you click the backup button and stores it as a contact or something inside itunes when you sync. Then when you do a restore you download aptbackup again and do a restore and it just goes through and d/l's all of the packages you had before.
Not sure exactly how pkgbackup works but i do think it saves preferences and such inside each cydia app and that is why it's $2.99.
If you aren't upgrading to new hardware and will just be getting the 4.0 software for your current phone when it's released you will have no problems redownloading any paid packages via cydia. If you upgrade to the new hardware you are going to have to contact the devs of each application individually, but all should be willing to help you out and won't recharge you as long as you paid the first time. This is assuming that the app or whatever you have will be ported to 4.0 or will work with 4.0 when released!
Aargh.
Yes either that or if you contact Saurik he might reset them so you can transfer/associate them to your device.
Did any of the posts say a JB for 4.0 was released ?
All we can do is present the information, I guess we can't make them actually read the posts
Look at PkgBackup. Only $3.49 and works perfectly. As other have advised, it will automate the process of restoring Cydia apps.
False, I know firsthand. I had a 3G, upgraded to a 3GS a few months ago. I was able to log in using my google acct (which is what was used originally to purchase some paid Cydia "apps"). I logged in using my google acct on the new phone and was able to download my purchases again.
The purchases aren't linked to the specific phone, they're linked to whatever account you originally purchase them with. I think google and facebook are the only two options, but I may be wrong.