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...The majority of these iphones in the USA are 3+ years old.
That's not a graph apple is proud of...
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My iPhone SE gets no love at all. LOL!

SE footprint of 3%, worse than all of them -- including vintage obsolete 3G/4/4s combo. There is no chance that the "number-cruncher" will upgrade the SE -- it speaks loudly of EOL.
 
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My iPhone SE gets no love at all. LOL!

SE footprint of 3%, worse than all of them -- including vintage obsolete 3G/4/4s combo. There is no chance that the "number-cruncher" will upgrade the SE -- it speaks loudly of EOL.

It had only been out for 7 months when that 3 percent count started and it isn't a flashship model. The 4S, 4 and 3GS all sold in huge numbers and were sold for 3 years each so there will of course still be large numbers of users when combined.
 
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It actually means there are more people in the US willing to spend huge amounts of money on a smartphone than any other country in the world.

Looking at the chart, compared to Android, Android has increased MORE than iOS in the past 3 years. iOS is more or less stagnant.

You mean, Stagnant in the sense how stable iOS is without having bloatware incorporated and The fluidity with very little lag/stutter using the interface . Or stagnant with a strong sense of security embedded to protect consumer data. iOS works well and does not necessarily have to be dynamic to perform beyond. Nice attempt at "Stagnant."
 
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These charts really show how huge the 6 was. The next two years are going to be huge for sales.
 
Working for the public school system, kids as young as 5th grade have iphones. Heck even some have 7 pluses. That tells you all right there about why they are at all time high
 
It's not surprising really, Apple make a brilliant smartphone the hardware is great but so is the OS and that's the point. While Samsung and other manufacturers are also making better smartphones their OS (i.e. Andriod just isn't as good) no regular updates, with a lot of Andriod devices still stuck on older versions. Sure the 6, 6s and 7 have the same design but they are individually great phones, I love my 7 Plus with the Bokeh effect that works great. It seems that a lot of people are holding out for the 8, it's likely to get huge sales providing the upgrade is a great one (OLED bezel less screen new camera tech and so on).
 
iPhone ownership is up at 85.8 million, which is the highest absolute number it's ever been.

Is marketshare in the US also the highest it's ever been? It's at 43% now, but the article doesn't state whether that's a high, or not. It could easily not be, as the population is of course growing. (i.e. we could have the highest # of ownership now, but not the highest marketshare, just because there are more people now than before)
 
You're kidding right?
Why would they be kidding? Apple's marketshare and sales continue to rise. These customers all have convinced themselves they need new phones every 1-2 years. I don't see them running en mass to any competing brands. And I don't see any competing brands that offer the consistency in build and features that iPhone continues to do.
 
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My iPhone SE gets no love at all. LOL!

SE footprint of 3%, worse than all of them -- including vintage obsolete 3G/4/4s combo. There is no chance that the "number-cruncher" will upgrade the SE -- it speaks loudly of EOL.

I'm not sure what you mean ... 3% sales out of all of the 7 sales, is huge. In fact, it's much more popular than I thought it was. So it's basically 20% of all flagship sales!
 
This is a bit misleading guys.

The majority of these iphones in the USA are 3+ years old.

That's not a graph apple is proud of.

Why they should push another iOS update to slow our phones down more to force us iPhone 4, 5, & 6 users to upgrade.
So now because they support older phones and iPhones last longer than Android phones, Apple shouldn't be proud and should be blamed? It might not be the best news for Apple's sales dept. but there's a clear goal and mandate to sell out of the newest phone every year which they always do. Do they really need a monopoly position to make you happy?
 
I remember walking around the city with my iPhone 4 back in the day, as there was a rarity to owning one & it used to be a big deal. Literally almost everyone I know owns an iPhone in some shape or form today.

And you are in Germany where iPhone market share is rather low. Imagine living in US where iPhone is the less exclusive of all smart phones. If you want to be "cool" you have to own anything else but iPhone.
 
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I definitely don't see this as a positive. There are more iPhone 5 (original, S and SE) owners than there are iPhone 7 owners. Also it shows that since the design has not changed significantly since the 6 a lot of those 6 / 6S owners did not care to upgrade to the 7. I think that if they do not make a drastic change to the form factor (reduce bezel, increase screen, and reduce the overall size of the device) it will hurt Apple's share in the smartphone market.
 
iOS adoption among smartphone users aged 13 and older is an estimated 43 percent

The reason the market share is high in US is because iPhone is relative cheap for Americans, the dollar is strong and people in US have higher salaries than most other countries.

I wonder how large Apple's market share would be if they had sold the iPhone at production costs. It would have been extremely hard for Samsung and others to enter the market 8 years ago. Apple would be able to push cost lower because of the scale.

Apple could have owned the smart phone market, they could have been as big as Microsoft when it comes to PC. For underdeveloped countries they could sell old models really cheap.

Apple could then have made money from the Apple Store, Apple Music and other Apple products/services in the ecosystem. With a larger market share, Android development would be as attractive as OS/2 or CP/M development.

Holy mother of God what a huge misunderstanding of reality you have. You realize that the iPhone branch of Apple makes more than Microsoft and a few large companies combined right?
 
Holy mother of God what a huge misunderstanding of reality you have. You realize that the iPhone branch of Apple makes more than Microsoft and a few large companies combined right?

He's not wrong about the price of iPhones outside of America

In Canada for example, the iPhone received a 30% bump in price. you cannot buy an unlocked new iPhone in Canada for < 899. with tax , that means the base 7 is over $1000. that does directly hurt Apple's ability to sell in a market where very comprable, and some options are < $400
 
water is wet. Sky is blue.

There are more people now on earth than in anypoint in history.

the world is culmulative. as long as Apple is selling, I expect this number to be raising.

now, if it started dipping, you bet your bottom dollar, we'd have known before know during the earnings calls

You do realize it's possible for this number to...decrease. Right? Because it sounds like you don't know that.
 
He's not wrong about the price of iPhones outside of America

In Canada for example, the iPhone received a 30% bump in price. you cannot buy an unlocked new iPhone in Canada for < 899. with tax , that means the base 7 is over $1000. that does directly hurt Apple's ability to sell in a market where very comprable, and some options are < $400

I live outside of america I am well aware of what iPhones cost here. I go on the metro here and I would say Apple still has a fairly good market share. The poor people rock some sort of low end Samsung or Xiao Mi. That isn't Apple's target demographic.
 
It actually means there are more people in the US willing to spend huge amounts of money on a smartphone than any other country in the world.
I never understand this comment. The only Android phones I ever see people using are the Samsungs and Pixels that cost just as much (or more) than iPhones. All of the flagship phones are expensive. And while I know there exist more budget-oriented Android phones, I bet many of those iPhone owners are using hand-me-downs, essentially $0 phones, something you can actually do with an iPhone because their performance and OS support are typically really solid for 3-4 years, even longer on some models. An iPhone 5S is 3.5 years old now and remains a top-notch device.
 
There is a home field advantage for Apple. But by reaching the younger people it does instill some brand loyalty and halo for later products.

And Google is not a "Home Field Advantage". I have always wondered about the "Home Field Advantage" Apple has against Google and Microsoft.
 
I'm not sure what you mean ... 3% sales out of all of the 7 sales, is huge. In fact, it's much more popular than I thought it was. So it's basically 20% of all flagship sales!

Huh?

It is 3% of the installed iPhone population in the US, or 85.8 million (estimated as of December).

It is about .03x85.8=2.5M dudes and dudettes with SEs, estimated.

[They say that the US population is about 320M (2014 B.T. -- before Trump). If so, about 1:4 owns a freaking iPhone in the US.]
 
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And you are in Germany where iPhone market share is rather low. Imagine living in US where iPhone is the less exclusive of all smart phones. If you want to be "cool" you have to own anything else but iPhone.

It's so interesting to see this evolution within the last 5 - 10 years. People used to be so price sensitive to these 500$+ smartphones back then, however paying that much today is the norm across many markets. Fascinating.
 
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