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The thing that caught my eye was that 85% of the iPhone population is earlier than the current model.

Several ways to look at that: 1) iPhones are a durable long lasting product that people are pretty satisfied with 2) the iPhone 7 was not enough of an upgrade for people to spend their money on it, 3) new iPhones are now so expensive that people are really stretching out their upgrade cycles, or 3)all of the above.

In any case, it could mean a pent up demand for new phones. If Apple comes up with something customers consider "upgrade worthy" this fall, there could be a tsunami of sales. Otherwise, if we are presented with only an "S" upgrade, sales, while still good, could be sort of lukewarm.
 
You do realize it's possible for this number to...decrease. Right? Because it sounds like you don't know that.
continue reading. I'm not as ignorant as you think I am.

i have already addressed why the number decreasing now makes no sense from a business/economics standpoint

i'm notsying it can't decrease. just given the known factors of population growth, maturing markets, and Apple's financial filings, Expecting shrinkage right now is unreasonable.
 
I am thinking most of those replying to the thread didn't really read the article or look at the charts. What I see is that the market has become saturated and innovation slowed to the point that a greater and greater share of users are just hanging onto their old phones because there isn't enough innovation to upgrade. Also, we have digressed from a competitive market with four choices that had real differentiation to a bi-opoly where two platforms are just copying each other. I think the heyday of smartphone growth is kind of over. At this point people are buying because their old one got broken more than because they want to take advantage of some new innovative features.
 
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So now because they support older phones and iPhones last longer than Android phones, Apple shouldn't be proud and should be blamed? It might not be the best news for Apple's sales dept. but there's a clear goal and mandate to sell out of the newest phone every year which they always do. Do they really need a monopoly position to make you happy?
im happy - but apple wouldn't be as they arent profiting from older iphones.
 
Holistic health is more important than focusing on one subset while ignoring the rest. Looking at it as a whole it's critically close to crossing into single digit territory where developers start abandoning the platform since it's no longer financially sustainable.

Steve Jobs
What ruined Apple was not growth … They got very greedy … Instead of following the original trajectory of the original vision, which was to make the thing an appliance and get this out there to as many people as possible … they went for profits. They made outlandish profits for about four years. What this cost them was their future. What they should have been doing is making rational profits and going for market share.

http://www.idc.com/promo/smartphone-market-share/os

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Huh?

It is 3% of the installed iPhone population in the US, or 85.8 million (estimated as of December).

It is about .03x85.8=2.5M dudes and dudettes with SEs, estimated.

[They say that the US population is about 320M (2014 B.T. -- before Trump). If so, about 1:4 owns a freaking iPhone in the US.]

That's not what I was going for. The SE is 20% of the iPhone 7/Plus installed base when incorporated as a whole. That's the important number. 15.6% of the overall iPhone installed user base are comprised of SEs, and 7s, of which the SE represents 20% of that figure. That's significant. Of the flagships and new phones being bought, 20% are opting for the SE when taking into account that the SE just got a refresh, and is a current phone, whereas the 6s is last year's unchanged model, so I'm not including that in the calculation -- especially since I don't know how many of those 6s/Plus are purchases since the iPhone 7 came out. I'm sure that's a significant number and would offer a better perspective, but the SE representing 20% of a pool representing only 7s and SEs, that's a pretty significant number.
 
I remember walking around the city with my iPhone 4 back in the day, as there was a rarity to owning one & it used to be a big deal. Literally almost everyone I know owns an iPhone in some shape or form today.
Reminds me of BMW's. Everyone seems to have one now. :D
Stagnant in the sense how stable iOS is without having bloatware incorporated and The fluidity with very little lag/stutter using the interface .
Not sure which Android phones you have been trying. Have you tried a Nexus or Pixel device? As a I recently Nexus 6P buyer (year old phone) I couldn't disagree more. As an ex iPhone user I'm remarkably impressed with the performance of this phone.
 
This is a bit misleading guys.

The majority of these iphones in the USA are 3+ years old.

That's not a graph apple is proud of.

Why they should push another iOS update to slow our phones down more to force us iPhone 4, 5, & 6 users to upgrade.

The iPhone 6/6S are 2.5-3.5 years old, don't exaggerate. Now that carriers are no longer offering subsidies, and phones are only getting incrementally better every year, 3-4 years (or until the phone dies) is becoming standard for a lot of people. And a lot of people opted for a cheaper 6s (or keep their 6/6s) over a 7 to keep the headphone jack. So it's not surprising they're still the most popular even though they're old models now.
 
That's not what I was going for. The SE is 20% of the iPhone 7/Plus installed base when incorporated as a whole. That's the important number. 15.6% of the overall iPhone installed user base are comprised of SEs, and 7s, of which the SE represents 20% of that figure. That's significant. Of the flagships and new phones being bought, 20% are opting for the SE when taking into account that the SE just got a refresh, and is a current phone, whereas the 6s is last year's unchanged model, so I'm not including that in the calculation -- especially since I don't know how many of those 6s/Plus are purchases since the iPhone 7 came out. I'm sure that's a significant number and would offer a better perspective, but the SE representing 20% of a pool representing only 7s and SEs, that's a pretty significant number.
Understand completely your take, Mac 128 (LOL!)

But you forget the time of release:
1. SE, March 2016
2. 7s and 7s+, September 2016
3. Survey, December 2016

The only stat that matters to the "bean-counter" is 2.5M SEs among US users. 1:30 approximately (if believed).

I would love to see a SE refreshed because it is perfect for both, my wife and me: I have no stomach for either $1,000+ phones or phones that cannot be used with a single hand. And I pay for my phones cash-and-carry. Not prone to any of the pay-as-you-go mumbo-jumbo.
 
This is a bit misleading guys.

The majority of these iphones in the USA are 3+ years old.

That's not a graph apple is proud of.

Why they should push another iOS update to slow our phones down more to force us iPhone 4, 5, & 6 users to upgrade.

iOS 11 will drop 32 bit support, so the iPhone 5 will not get the update.
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It actually means there are more people in the US willing to spend huge amounts of money on a smartphone than any other country in the world.

The market % of iPhones in Japan and Australia may be even higher than the US. I think that Australia is also #1 in the world in terms of Apple products per capita.
 
Holy mother of God what a huge misunderstanding of reality you have. You realize that the iPhone branch of Apple makes more than Microsoft and a few large companies combined right?

Yes, and Apple was ahead of Microsoft in the eighties too, but then Scully became greedy and Apple lost market share and MS passed Apple in profits. It took Jobs over ten years to become more profitable than Microsoft.

Apple would be in a better position if they were the dominant OS on smart phones, just like Microsoft is on the desktop. A position they have held for 25 years while making money on Office, cloud service, Xbox etc. 2016 was the first year Apple saw a decline in profits for 15 years. In the long run their strategy is hurting them, Android now has a 90% market share world wide and the problem is not Apple's products. People just can't afford them.
 
The market % of iPhones in Japan and Australia may be even higher than the US. I think that Australia is also #1 in the world in terms of Apple products per capita.

Japan has the largest iOS marketshare but still 2nd place and dropping %.

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water is wet. Sky is blue.

There are more people now on earth than in anypoint in history.

the world is culmulative. as long as Apple is selling, I expect this number to be raising.

now, if it started dipping, you bet your bottom dollar, we'd have known before know during the earnings calls

What ????
 
Bizarre headline to data that suggests new iPhone models are slow to be adopted. By the graph, it appears it takes nearly 2 years for a particular model's sales to reach their maximum, at which point the phone is well outdated.

I guess maybe from a profit perspective this could be good? But for getting your technology into the wild, it's a setback.
 
im happy - but apple wouldn't be as they arent profiting from older iphones.
iOS services is their fastest growing profit center so if those older phones still work with Apple Music, iCloud, iTunes Store, etc. I think they might be ok with it too ;-)
 
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