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iPhone Rate Plans for Germany?
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I wonder what the rates are going to be in Denmark, then ...
Here, you get to pay 0.10 a minute (taxed per second), and 0.02 for an SMS. No monthly fee, no paying for incoming calls. Apple would never be able to pull something like this off here (or maybe they just would, but then I don't understand this world).
Here, you get to pay 0.10 a minute (taxed per second), and 0.02 for an SMS. No monthly fee, no paying for incoming calls. Apple would never be able to pull something like this off here (or maybe they just would, but then I don't understand this world).
Don't tell me you Americans have to pay for incoming calls???!!!!!
Just remember.. here in the states that caller on a land line pays nothing for calling someone's mobile- UNLIKE the UK. In the UK, you do get "free" incoming calls- that is becuase the caller is paying toll...even from a land line phone.
Dude? WTF? First of all I am from Germany and second, just because Telekom has crappy prices doesn't mean those are normal prices for cellphone contracts.
Those rates are not normal either, but after reading this thread you seem to be the expert...
I think it would be appropriate if only germans would comment on this. It is useless to translate this into other situations in other countries.
Those prices are quite high even for german market. In Finland I got following monthly deal: 0.66 per month, 0.069 per minute and 0.069 per SMS. And also unlimited 3G and EDGE data for 8 euros per month. We don't pay incoming calls.
So really looking forward for iPhone deals in here.
So really looking forward for iPhone deals in here.
Well ...
... I'm stucked on ePlus for about 9 month from now ...
Quite nice, I'll use my treo and wait for rev 2 or 3 of the iphone and the movement of the t-mobile pricing
OK, DAMN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE ONE BUT ...
... I'm stucked on ePlus for about 9 month from now ...
Quite nice, I'll use my treo and wait for rev 2 or 3 of the iphone and the movement of the t-mobile pricing
OK, DAMN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE ONE BUT ...
I guess that most Germans that have ever been to one of the northern countries would say that Germany has the cheapest rates at all. But the pricing for this plans is just what I expected and would not consider it too bad. Compared to other countries it sure is and German carriers have to learn a lot.
They payed an incredible high price for the UMTS licenses and of course they want to make some money. So they get it from their customers. There is nothing fair about it. But it is getting better as some carrier seem to realize that younger people don't care about land lines when they could have a mobile phone and a DSL access.
They payed an incredible high price for the UMTS licenses and of course they want to make some money. So they get it from their customers. There is nothing fair about it. But it is getting better as some carrier seem to realize that younger people don't care about land lines when they could have a mobile phone and a DSL access.
Well if the phone actually had UMTS support those prices wouldn't be too bad. But this way it just plain sucks.
Dudes... I'm just shocked about these rates.
Here in Holland I pay 10,95 incl. taxes + 275 minutes/sms free (not charged on incoming calls, and yes, I don't have any friends...no, I call them using VOIP at home). If i want I can get unlimited 3.5G internet for 9.95, but I don't.
I even felt ripped off since somewhat later I found a contract with 300 minutes + 60 SMS for the same price.
Also, in my country we have T-mobile too and I found their tariffs here:
100 minutes free - 5
200 minutes free - 8.50
300 minutes free - 12
400 minutes free - 17
I wonder wtf is happening over there since Germany is usually somewhat cheaper than Holland. I even buy my groceries over there since it saves me a ******** of money, especially on alcoholic drinks. Maybe they do subsidize the iPhone?
Here in Holland I pay 10,95 incl. taxes + 275 minutes/sms free (not charged on incoming calls, and yes, I don't have any friends
...no, I call them using VOIP at home). If i want I can get unlimited 3.5G internet for 9.95, but I don't. I even felt ripped off since somewhat later I found a contract with 300 minutes + 60 SMS for the same price.
Also, in my country we have T-mobile too and I found their tariffs here:
100 minutes free - 5
200 minutes free - 8.50
300 minutes free - 12
400 minutes free - 17
I wonder wtf is happening over there since Germany is usually somewhat cheaper than Holland. I even buy my groceries over there since it saves me a ******** of money, especially on alcoholic drinks. Maybe they do subsidize the iPhone?
Dudes... I'm just shocked about these rates.
Here in Holland I pay 10,95 incl. taxes + 275 minutes/sms free (not charged on incoming calls, and yes, I don't have any friends
I even felt ripped off since somewhat later I found a contract with 300 minutes + 60 SMS for the same price.
Also, in my country we have T-mobile too and I found their tariffs here:
100 minutes free - 5
200 minutes free - 8.50
300 minutes free - 12
400 minutes free - 17
I wonder wtf is happening over there since Germany is usually somewhat cheaper than Holland. I even buy my groceries over there since it saves me a ******** of money, especially on alcoholic drinks. Maybe they do subsidize the iPhone?
I think German telecom companies just went way overboard when they bid for the UMTS licenses and they're still paying for that. I mean look at land lines... telephone flatrate + 6Mbit Internet flatrate is 29.
Well they did, but so did ours and it's being used as an excuse to overcharge the consumers. I just think there's too less competition in their telecom sector.
BTW I pay 19.95 for 20Mbit Internet flatrate including fixed line charge. I call for free to landlines using VOIP for 10 for 4 months and can use that 10 credit to call abroad.
Wow, those are sweet prices. I thought Germany had low prices on Internet but that's cool. I don't think they even have 20Mbit in Germany yet.
Don't tell me you Americans have to pay for incoming calls???!!!!!
Yeah, judging from those rates, you Europeans SURE have it GREAT. Ha!
It seem like they are being shafted, however it depends on what they pay now for other similar smartphone plans.
100 minutes and 40 messages?
They must really think the Germans have no friends.
ROFLMAO
Don't tell me you Americans still make land line calls???!!!!!
Wait, so in Europe everyone has cell phone plans with 100 minutes because they only pay for outgoing, so apparently no one is making calls from cell phones, yet somehow no one is making calls from land lines either.
I dunno, I try to take the position that US and EU plans are 6 of one, half dozen of the other things, where the differences all work out in the end, but seriously - suggesting a plan in the US with 100 minutes, even if you said they would only pay for outgoing, would be laughed out of the room.
I mean, we get something like 4-6 times the minutes for that price - I think that will cover a few outgoing calls!
I am from Germany. I would like to have a iPhone.
But I don't like T-mobile and I don't like their prices. So I will have no iPhone.
After selecting T-mobile I don't think Apple will be successful here in Germany. Look at the iPod's market-share in Germany: just 26%
But I don't like T-mobile and I don't like their prices. So I will have no iPhone.
After selecting T-mobile I don't think Apple will be successful here in Germany. Look at the iPod's market-share in Germany: just 26%
BTW to all you Americans: When Europeans go abroad they too have to pay for being called (because international calls are more expensive, it would not be fair to let the caller pay extra since he might not know the recipient is abroad) For me this is hell, I go on holidays 4 times per year and then I used to have huge bills when I returned home. For this reason I now have prepaid SIM-cards for Germany, Spain, UK, Italy and Russia in my wallet
That's just wrong.
In Finland for 60 euros you get 3000 min/3000 sms/3000 mms and 3000 min video calls and unlimited data over HSDPA and a Nokia 6120 Classic (HSDPA).
In Finland for 60 euros you get 3000 min/3000 sms/3000 mms and 3000 min video calls and unlimited data over HSDPA and a Nokia 6120 Classic (HSDPA).
Don't exchange the money with the current exchange rates...
think about gas prices here - one liter (that 3.7 less than a gallon ;-)) of gas is around 1.35 EUR currently....
I do not want to justify the "ugly" rates but i want to help understand the ridiculous price structures here in europe.
There are other cellular providers (i.e. EPlus) that provide you with a all around "real" data and voice flat rate for 90 EUR (voice all networks) plus 25EUR for data.
But their network is to crowded at the moment, they haven't invested in the network for months, their 3G sucks and they don't have edge...
So we have to swallow the bitter pill......
Maybe, maybe not!?
German Apple subsidiary always used to be less inferior than the U.S. or France.
They seem also some kind of arrogant to me. Same for many of the dealers?
In general the "Geiz ist geil" (avarice is cool) spots have done their work. Everyone just want's to buy cheap!
I do not want to argue on T-Mobile or their "superior" rates, but same story could be told about vodafone!?