Samsung will never sell 17 million S8's in a quarter, so still no competition for iPhone.
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iPhone Remained World's Most Popular Smartphone Last Quarter
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Making sure that everybody has a smartphone -- and that includes second and third world countries and even people with a low income in first world countries.
Yep....we get it ( though I am not a fanboy of any system ) it is a wonderful experience, everything just clicks in and works....except for any accessory you own before they changed to lighting, yep and of course you don't need any converters or dongles with Apple...it must be dreamy!
Samsung has upper hand for Total phones sold or for GS8/GS8+ ?
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iPhone 7/7+ were launched in September, not recently so doesn't matter, but Samsung GS8/GS8+ are not even in the top 5 list, do we expect GS8/GS8+ to beat iPhone 7/7+ ?
So...either the analysts who wrote this article are so badly wrong the article is worthless, or Apple is using misleading numbers (like sales to customers vs sales to retailers that are still kicking around the supply chain somewhere).
We have no way to know which.
The 39 million was for iPhone 7 and 7 Pluses (and and estimate). The 50.8 million was for all iPhones - so it included, e.g., 6S and 6S Pluses.
Also, regarding the sell-in to sell-through comparison you refer to: The 50.8 million was the iPhone sell-in. The iPhone sell-through was 52 million, that's how many were bought by consumers.
Apple also doesn't have a new flagship out yet...
Meanwhile, next quarter will be comparing samsungs new flagship to last years flagship from Apple and you think that is somehow a more fair comparison?
If you read what I wrote, I didn't say one way or the other was fair. I said that the statistics were useless because of exactly what you pointed out.
Samsung sales have gone way down. just facts, not biased
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well Apples flagship is 6 months old, it's not a brand new model. All companies can do is report however many sales [or in this case shipments] were made in a specific time frame.
By your logic you can never compare sales/shipments in the same quarter because there will always be 1 model newer than the others. 1 quarter samsung will have a new model, another quarter Apple might.
The numbers are real, what you want to do with them is up to you
And, where did you come up with that fact? Doesn't matter anyway since Samsung competes in the high end while Apple is in the mid-tier segment.
This is even before Galaxy S8 shipped in 2Q17.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/04/11/samsung-worlds-largest-smartphone-maker-q1-17/
I have absolutely no idea why I asked that, I even remember seeing that table in the article.The models in the chart of the OP.
I'm not sure why anyone is surprised by this...
Apple is the #2 smartphone OEM in the world by volume... and they only sell a handful of models.
So... it makes sense that a couple of their models would end up being the best-selling models in the world.
Apple is the #2 smartphone OEM in the world by volume... and they only sell a handful of models.
So... it makes sense that a couple of their models would end up being the best-selling models in the world.
Everyone keeps telling me Apple is doomed. There are times when I feel like it's heading in that direction too. And then I read stuff like this. 9 iPhone generations (10 with the SE) and they are still ahead and haven't fully reached market saturation.
If Apple hits a homer with the 2017 models, their #s will go up. As of now, most popular smartphone =/= best phone. That could change with a bunch of new features to minimize the differences between the Pixel XL, S8/S8+, and a few other marquee contenders.
Yea I know, but it's funny how some do follow that logic that popularity means it's the bestest. If that were the case everyone who follows that logic should have an iPhone and a Windows PC.i had sarcasm in there. apple is not the bestest.
Can you point to what ZDNet data you are talking about? I found this on ZDNet: http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-overtakes-samsung-in-smartphone-sales-for-q4-2016/
Does the data you refer to break out unit sales by phone *model*? In a 2016 quarter Samsung showed a total sales unit count of 77 Million, but that is split over Galaxy S7/S7 Edge/S6/S6 Edge, Galaxy Note 3/4/5/Edge, Galaxy J3/J5/J7, etc, etc, etc. (Yes, all those and more are still available; take a look at Samsung's website) - This report is talking about the popularity of a specific model, not total smartphones sold by manufacturer.
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You forget the Samsung flagships already existed at the time of this data. They were called Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge. Yes, in the next quarter they will probably show up, but then the argument can be made that Apple's "new" flagship phone won't be accounted for yet.
It's just a snapshot. For now, it is true.
Well, no, shipments /= actual sales. Maybe if companies released actual sales figures, we could argue these numbers, but they don't so it's all speculation and PR posturing.
It's 6 months old now. During 1Q 2017 it was 4 months old, and even then the previous 3 months the phone was highly constrained, so demand was still on a "new phone" high...
But, yes, since different manufacturers release high-demand models at different times, comparisons like this with headlines "TOP PHONE FOR THE QUARTER" are misleading. Just remember when Samsung's sweet Q2 earnings come out and they top Apple...(which you'll probably not see as a headline here at MR's...)
Man, that's messed up, they shouldn't be able to blantly copy Apple like that. That photo goes a long way to see why they are 3rd.
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Lol mid tier, give me some of that you are smoking, I want to live in a alternate universe also......and you know Samsung flooded the market with their cheap phones to get market share. Truth be known the red tinted, laggy S8 is a mid tier phone that Samsung is ripping off their fanboys like you...And, where did you come up with that fact? Doesn't matter anyway since Samsung competes in the high end while Apple is in the mid-tier segment.
This is even before Galaxy S8 shipped in 2Q17.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/04/11/samsung-worlds-largest-smartphone-maker-q1-17/
You're right about different release quarters for different companies' flagships.
But I doubt we'll see Samsung's Galaxy S8 and S8+ selling 21 million units and 17 million units respectively in a single quarter.
Samsung flagships are great... but they don't sell in those kinds of numbers.
Has any flagship Samsung series ever sold 38 million units in 3 months? Or a single model with 21 million?
The best-selling Galaxy S model was the Galaxy S4 with lifetime sales of 70 million.
Zoinks! Apple probably makes that much profit per phone!
How much can they be making on a phone that cheap?
iPhone 7 and 7+ took 11% of the market (spots 1 and 2) and the number 5 spot had 1.4%. That means any of the other phones out there also took 1.4% or less of the market.
I understand the Samsung has a lot of that remaining 83% but even you factor in if their most profitable phones take spots 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and you add in slots 4 / 5, they still aren't at 11% of the market (even giving slots 6 through 10 a generous 1.4%).
That's best case: I'm giving them the next 5 slots at the highest possible percentage and assuming maximum profit on those slots.
I assume (uh oh) that Apple is making a little more profit on a phone that is making 21 million units than a phone that is making 1.4 million units (even a $650 phone).