The good thing with Apple is when they ship the technology, it usually works.
Samsung is far more tolerant of shipping something that works for a sales demo, but not in the real world.
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iPhone Rumored to Include Iris Scanning Capabilities Starting in 2018
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Samsung is far more tolerant of shipping something that works for a sales demo, but not in the real world.
Hmm, why go first, when you can go later and correct others mistake. May as well play it safe. Plus, it saves a (s) load of R&D money.
Seems pointless to me, it's also pointless Apple copying Samsung but here we with them doing EXACTLY that IF this rumour is true.
Here is a link to the leaked instructions on how to use the iris scanner on the upcoming Galaxy Note 7:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/138...ctions-leak-this-is-how-the-scanner-will-work
Much prefer the fingerprint scanner personally.
Oh the irony....
Here is a link to the leaked instructions on how to use the iris scanner on the upcoming Galaxy Note 7:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/138...ctions-leak-this-is-how-the-scanner-will-work
Much prefer the fingerprint scanner personally.
Oh the irony....
I'm intrigued to know how alcohol is supposed to affect your iris anatomy??
I came through Heathrow airport immigration and used the Iris system many times (and many of those were after a flight of much wine consumption!)
Lol, I bet if this was the other way round, your stance would something along the lines of copycats, Samesung etc.. am I right...
Iris scanning capabilities in 2018, wow!
They probably saw this feature on the Lumia 950 in 2015, an then decided to work on it for the 2018 iPhone.
Hold your breath, because Apple's technology is advancing at the speed of light!
Waiting for comments like "this feature is crap on the Lumia, they need 3 years to perfect and reinvent it!"...
They probably saw this feature on the Lumia 950 in 2015, an then decided to work on it for the 2018 iPhone.
Hold your breath, because Apple's technology is advancing at the speed of light!
Waiting for comments like "this feature is crap on the Lumia, they need 3 years to perfect and reinvent it!"...
Maybe.I bet you it protrudes out the front of the phone like the rear camera
You can't change physics - iris scanners usually use UV cameras and they are bulky compared to visible light cameras (eg B2I Biometrics Iris scanner for iPhone 4 called MORIS)
Getting iris scanning to work in thin form factor devices is goo to take some engineering & some compromise
The Agency I work for had us take a tutorial of the scanning process for privacy terms and obligations. The instructor stated the different sensors measure various Retina points through symmetrical variants. At least this is how it was explained to me. Possibly different Iris scanning variations on the market. More advanced than others? More stringent versions than say, your local Agency based off federal or State regulated security purposes?
First let me say how much I love the "Bah! It'll never work" commentary. I think that all of you need to get off my lawn.
But seriously, I'm sure there are plenty of experiments going on, and Apple just needs to figure out the secret sauce. I for one would love to see this implemented as an additional form of access. My current gripe about the fingerprint is it doesn't work with sweaty hands, so after jogging a few miles and working up a sweat I have to fumble with the (long, company-mandated) passcode on the phone in order to stop the running app. Second, when biking, I keep the phone in a case mounted on the bars, which works well except that it's under a weather-protected cover, so no fingerprint access. In both cases I'd love to be able to just look down at my phone and have it unlock automagically.
But seriously, I'm sure there are plenty of experiments going on, and Apple just needs to figure out the secret sauce. I for one would love to see this implemented as an additional form of access. My current gripe about the fingerprint is it doesn't work with sweaty hands, so after jogging a few miles and working up a sweat I have to fumble with the (long, company-mandated) passcode on the phone in order to stop the running app. Second, when biking, I keep the phone in a case mounted on the bars, which works well except that it's under a weather-protected cover, so no fingerprint access. In both cases I'd love to be able to just look down at my phone and have it unlock automagically.
I think your correct. Must be more than one form of scanning implement on the market.
That...and Apple can afford to withhold features for two a product cycle or two. Other companies do not have the fanboy following and brand power of Apple. If they spent two years to implement something, they won't even be in the race. Of course Samsung just wants to be able to say they did it first. The feature will be gimmicky, but they can always improve upon it with the Note 8, 9, and so on.
The hypocrisy on this thread is absolutely amazing.. the responses are so obvious, it's cringing like everyone is reading the same manual. Do it right, let someone else do the R&D, don't rush it.
When in reality...
It's..
Lost focus, no innovation anymore, just copy Samsung, they are the market leaders so it will be OK..
There was a thread about Samsung releasing a rose gold phone maybe (sod the fact they had done this year's ago) , the vitriol was amazing.
I have a serious question, do the folks who slag Samsung off for copying then say it's OK for Apple as they do it right actually believe the BS, or are they just kidding them self's.. it's beyond embarrassing..
When in reality...
It's..
Lost focus, no innovation anymore, just copy Samsung, they are the market leaders so it will be OK..
There was a thread about Samsung releasing a rose gold phone maybe (sod the fact they had done this year's ago) , the vitriol was amazing.
I have a serious question, do the folks who slag Samsung off for copying then say it's OK for Apple as they do it right actually believe the BS, or are they just kidding them self's.. it's beyond embarrassing..
So far there has been a lot of information leaked about how the iris scanner is supposed to work--and more important not work--on the Note 7 and Apple is wise to wait until 2018.
Right now the Note 7's scanner doesn't play nice with glasses, contacts, puffy eyes, narrowed eyes, poor lighting conditions, bright lighting conditions, and must be a certain distance away from your eyes or it will do something not very nice to your eyeballs. So basically I have a better chance of turning into a werewolf than I have of it working for me.
Yes your right but only in terms of how Samsung have implemented Iris scanning on a mobile. However let us look back to before the iPhone 5S was released. Apple had bought a company named Authentec who made fingerprint scanners etc. People on sites such as this one all said that Apple could not make a fingerprint scanner for the iPhone. They all pointed out how other firms had tried including Motorola. Then Apple release the iPhone 5S and Touch ID was better than everyone thought. So it stands to reason that perhaps Apple know they can introduce an Iris scanner on the iPhone in a way that just works.
perhaps they know they can get round the issues of low light and glasses and when drunk etc in the same way that with Touch ID they got around many of the issues of fingerprint scanners on previous phones including poor read rates and reliability etc.
I see a major reason for Apple doing this (if true). Security, Apple likes to tout the iPhone as secure and in light of the recent FBI saga Apple are sure to want to further improve security to the point where they absolutely can not get round their own security if forced to by the FBI etc. Also no third party could find ways round.
Iris scanning is at present nigh on impossible to fake or copy and before anyone mentions it would not work if someone rips your eye out.
I see it as being a significant leap forward in security across all devices Apple makes if they can pull it off.
Imagine having an iPhone and just lifting it up to look at it and it unlocks or just sitting down at your Mac and it unlocks without needing to enter any passwords. Microsoft have something similar in Windows 10 so why not macOS at some point?
However only time will tell, I for one though hope it is true.
None....Buy the Galaxy S7 or the Note 7.Which iPhone do I wait for now?
That's not going to work well while driving.
Not that anyone should, but plenty of people do. And it's the impact of those folks' distracted-driving that endangers us all.
Not that anyone should, but plenty of people do. And it's the impact of those folks' distracted-driving that endangers us all.
How many of us wear glasses, contacts, drink, have allergies, have...
So many "what if.." items.
Supposedly Samsung is doing something similar on the Note 7. Be interesting to see how that works. Makes me wonder if the article is strictly a response piece to that rumor...
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Do you really see a high end iris scanner implementation in an iPhone?
I don't. Cost prohibitive.